Space Station 13 v11 - Admiral Hippie does bad videos - Games

[QUOTE=Kumagoro;48195030]Nothing irks me so much as a bunch of security shits (HoS included) bursting into medbay and doing all medical procedures by themselves. Being a MD is already fairly boring, and those arses take away some opportunity to actually, like, do something. Obviously I don't mind if shit's really going down, but most of the time it's absolutely unnecessary.[/QUOTE] Even worse imo when asshole HoP barges in having given self-all access and raids storage or tries bossing people around

[QUOTE=markedOne;48195051]Even worse imo when asshole HoP barges in having given self-all access and raids storage or tries bossing people around[/QUOTE] If he gives himself all-access just report him to IA/CentComm. That's, like, the one thing all HoPs should know [I]not[/I] to do.

[QUOTE=Rats808;48195209]If he gives himself all-access just report him to IA/CentComm. That's, like, the one thing all HoPs should know [I]not[/I] to do.[/QUOTE] The HoP thinks himself a captain, he is actually just a greytider with a title nobody respects.

Am i the only HoP that just silently sits in his office until he is needed and gives people the job changes they require

[QUOTE=Nickolas;48196059]Am i the only HoP that just silently sits in his office until he is needed and gives people the job changes they require[/QUOTE] I do this too. If someone wants all access, I tell them to get three kinda hard to get items for me. Stuff like a bar of gold, a forensic scanner, and a monkey cube or something along those lines. Not impossible to get, just annoying.

So captain AFK'd and hid in a locker last round and this is what happened when I confronted him. [img]http://i.imgur.com/AgoBJ4g.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Nickolas;48196059]Am i the only HoP that just silently sits in his office until he is needed and gives people the job changes they require[/QUOTE] I've done that plenty of times but people begin to smash my fucking windows or make false doors into my office. After a few job edits and shit I'll just fuck off the station because it's too much of a hassle when you have dozens of people stealing your ID and they're not even antags.

[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;48193085]one item that is easy to get rid of and impossible to get more of should be the only tool to beat an AI?[/QUOTE] It isn't the only way to beat an AI, just the fastest way of finding them. Unless the AI has already killed off most of the crew, you should have enough man power to find the APCs it's hacked within the given time limit. Unless they shunted themselves in a mining station APC, or even worse moved their core there. Seriously, fuck AIs that do that. Another way of finding them is to check the Power Monitoring computers, or use the PDA cart that gives you access to those. Shunted AI's consume a considerable amount of power from that APC, and while it isn't quite the same level as a power sink it is still very noticeable and will lead you right to them.

Thoughts on atmos techs who Immediately deconstruct the plasma and N20 pipes at round start?

ban. thats meta like bolting and depowering ai core. securing armory in one locker

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;48197746]Thoughts on atmos techs who Immediately deconstruct the plasma and N20 pipes at round start?[/QUOTE] I dont think ive ever met any techs capable of doing that. Most cant even fix leaks and seem to wander around the station mindlessly

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;48197746]Thoughts on atmos techs who Immediately deconstruct the plasma and N20 pipes at round start?[/QUOTE] they are cool because n2o and plasma are both shitty laggy gases that are ONLY used for harming the station i don't know how that is meta

Plasma is a better grief gas than N2O still, Atleast plasma spares you the misery of just sitting there and you can still get people with masks on with it why does N2O even exist

It's power gaming to the max to do that at the start of a round though. You're screwing over any traitor AI's that may or may not be present, with no reason to suspect foul play at all on their part. Deconstructing the pipes themselves is even more blatant than placing a full window over the valves to prevent the AI from accessing them. If you're doing this under the guise of a safety measure, the most you should be doing is setting the pressure on the outlet pumps to 0 on the atmospheric computers. This way, even if the physical pumps are turned on none of the gas from the holding tanks will actually be getting pumped through them. Most people don't even know to look for this and won't realize what is going wrong with their sabotage attempts. This functions as a safety measure and still allows fair play since the AI can still use the pipes for flooding, it just requires more effort. As for the gasses themselves, you seem to be forgetting that plasma (the gas) is used for fuelling the radiation collectors in the singularity engine. Plasma is also used to make bombs, which allegedly are used for mining but can also be used to destroy a rogue singularity. I'm not sure about n2o, but I believe that's the gas used to snuff out fires.

[QUOTE=Joekirk;48198505]It's power gaming to the max to do that at the start of a round though. You're screwing over any traitor AI's that may or may not be present, with no reason to suspect foul play at all on their part. Deconstructing the pipes themselves is even more blatant than placing a full window over the valves to prevent the AI from accessing them. If you're doing this under the guise of a safety measure, the most you should be doing is setting the pressure on the outlet pumps to 0 on the atmospheric computers. This way, even if the physical pumps are turned on none of the gas from the holding tanks will actually be getting pumped through them. Most people don't even know to look for this and won't realize what is going wrong with their sabotage attempts. This functions as a safety measure and still allows fair play since the AI can still use the pipes for flooding, it just requires more effort.[/QUOTE] so basically you are saying you should let the Malf AI go and kill the whole station in one go just because you don't know it's Malf?

[QUOTE=Pigbear;48198520]so basically you are saying you should let the Malf AI go and kill the whole station in one go just because you don't know it's Malf?[/QUOTE] I'm saying you shouldn't be deconstructing the fucking pipes at round start JUST IN CASE, [I]THE [U][B]GAME MODE[/B][/U] MIGHT BE MALF[/I]. How in the world isn't it metagaming to be doing that at round start just for that one reason? [Editline] Yep. [/editline] [QUOTE=Pigbear;48198579]I suddenly suspect this happened to you, with how salty you seem to be getting over it, It's not metagaming because any man with a sense of logic would realize "yeah we really don't need these gasses they just waste space let's get rid of em"[/QUOTE] In the four years I've played this game, I've played AI maybe three times. It's a role I stay clear of entirely. I'm getting salty over this because this is shitty behaviour to have during game play. On the note of this happening to me, it hasn't. I've never been a Malf AI and I haven't actually booted up the game in over three months. I will not continue this discussion because I don't want to start more drama over pointless shit.

[QUOTE=Joekirk;48198548]I'm saying you shouldn't be deconstructing the fucking pipes at round start JUST IN CASE, [I]THE [U][B]GAME MODE[/B][/U] MIGHT BE MALF[/I]. How in the world isn't it metagaming to be doing that at round start just for that one reason?[/QUOTE] I suddenly suspect this happened to you, with how salty you seem to be getting over it, It's not metagaming because any man with a sense of logic would realize "yeah we really don't need these gasses they just waste space let's get rid of em"

[QUOTE=Pigbear;48198579]I suddenly suspect this happened to you, with how salty you seem to be getting over it, It's not metagaming because any man with a sense of logic would realize "yeah we really don't need these gasses they just waste space let's get rid of em"[/QUOTE] yeah, plasma sure is a waste of space on a [I]plasma research station[/I]

[QUOTE=Pigbear;48198496]why does N2O even exist[/QUOTE] Cause surgery anesthetic tanks

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;48197746]Thoughts on atmos techs who Immediately deconstruct the plasma and N20 pipes at round start?[/QUOTE] It's easy as hell to notice it being flooded, no point unless you don't plan on being in atmos for most of the round.

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;48197746]Thoughts on atmos techs who Immediately deconstruct the plasma and N20 pipes at round start?[/QUOTE] borderline banworthy metagaming

I never think of it tbh cause I play goon mainly I think of launching a private server to learn atmos but then I remember the information is useless to me

[QUOTE=Pigbear;48199030]I never think of it tbh cause I play goon mainly I think of launching a private server to learn atmos but then I remember the information is useless to me[/QUOTE] Well when gas flooding on goon basically comes down to stealing a can of plasma and attaching it to the re-pressurisation point of your choosing, it's not really a skill anyone needs. Still may be fun to see how it works.

Anyone have a good guide to atmos on tg code servers? One of the few things I never got really into.

[QUOTE=kiloy;48198685]Cause surgery anesthetic tanks[/QUOTE] Most importantly, it can be used to suffocate gigantic fires when you don't have the manpower to put them out manually. Or am I thinking of C02? Fuck, I think I'm thinking of C02. The sleepy shit has more uses than anesthetic tanks, like being very easy to weaponize.

[QUOTE=Pigbear;48198579]I suddenly suspect this happened to you, with how salty you seem to be getting over it, It's not metagaming because any man with a sense of logic would realize "yeah we really don't need these gasses they just waste space let's get rid of em"[/QUOTE] By going to this then the best course of action is to throw the medal case, teleportation reactive armor and any other traitor objective into a sealed 3x3 hollowed room in the AI Core at the start of the round. It's also legitimate to start cuffing and deconverting people who have a random paper in their inventory. It's legitimate to start implanting everyone at roundstart, after you gave them a 3 minute deconversion process to ensure they aren't cultist. It's also good to remove everyone (except HoS and Captain's) PDA's. And the best of all is to ensure Cargo is to report everything to the HoP, otherwise they will be demoted. Virologist is also supervised by a Security in hazmat suit. Toxins is shut down. Plasma canisters are thrown all the way to Armory, safe and secure ye. N20 like-wise. And more! It isn't fun when you use past round knowledge to ensure it doesn't happen this round, especially when nothing has happened round start.

[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;48199808] It's also legitimate to start cuffing and deconverting people who have a random paper in their inventory. It isn't fun when you use past round knowledge to ensure it doesn't happen this round, especially when nothing has happened round start.[/QUOTE] To be fair, that [I]might[/I] be pretty suspicious. The rest of them I completely agree with though.

In all seriousness though the current way that ATMOS works on most stations is a bit wonky, it filters out any other gasses from the air thats brought in and sticks it into the chambers already full of the stuff but theres no way to release that stored plasma/etc meaning it just builds up constantly. If you wanted to change atmos to not be so strange and mean that if someone did that(unpiped it all) it would be fucking the station over, just make the oxygen scrubbing part of atmos consume plasma and No2 in its production instead of having an infinite source of oxygen coming from a tank in the room.

[QUOTE=Firespray;48199838]To be fair, that [I]might[/I] be pretty suspicious. The rest of them I completely agree with though.[/QUOTE] Fact of the matter is, is that it's paper. Giving a cursory glance with a search? Oh look it's blank paper. No one should fucking flip about paper unless people have been very fucking suspicious beforehand.

Tbh considering how often the station is attacked you would think atmos would be slightly more secure. Its pretty easy to flood the station with plasma.