Space Station 13 v11 - Admiral Hippie does bad videos - Games

This reminds me of Johnny Jenkins He was someone on Hippie that would ALWAYS be QM and ALWAYS would get Jackboots, a bomber jacket and jeans and ALWAYS would order weapon crates, break them open with a ripley and just deny anyone else service because "Tunnel snakes lol" One time it was funny but after seeing him do it every round for like 5-7 times a row it got tedious [editline]4th May 2015[/editline] He also always got into fights with security because of weapon ownership and would just outright kill them (Not always but i swear there were several cases)

I am highly tempted to try and apply to be can admin of hippie to whip the playerbase into shape. I cannot count how many times engineers DO NOT set up the engine.

[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;47654150]I am highly tempted to try and apply to be can admin of hippie to whip the playerbase into shape. I cannot count how many times engineers DO NOT set up the engine.[/QUOTE] This is how you don't administrate

[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;47654150]I am highly tempted to try and apply to be can admin of hippie to whip the playerbase into shape. I cannot count how many times engineers DO NOT set up the engine.[/QUOTE] Speaking as the Ex-Headmin there, not setting up the engine is an IC issue, not something the admins deal with. It's how things always have been and (probably) always will be. If you don't like it you'd have better luck being an engineer and doing it yourself or playing somewhere else.

I don't play on hippie because it's practically fuck-around every round, if you by-chance happen to come across an admin trying to fulfill his shitty gimmick, and stop him, then you're banned. Server was ok at first, but eventually really hit the gutter.

[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;47654150]I am highly tempted to try and apply to be can admin of hippie to whip the playerbase into shape. I cannot count how many times engineers DO NOT set up the engine.[/QUOTE] Hippie is most certainly hands off with regards to IC, not setting up the engine is an IC thing and is the halmark of a crap engineer. Break into engineering and set it up yourself, if the engineers try to stop you, lynch them and if you get bwoinked, say you tried to do what needed to be done and they attacked you first.

[QUOTE=thisguy123;47654277]Hippie is most certainly hands off with regards to IC, not setting up the engine is an IC thing and is the halmark of a crap engineer. Break into engineering and set it up yourself, if the engineers try to stop you, lynch them and if you get bwoinked, say you tried to do what needed to be done and they attacked you first.[/QUOTE] It's player problems not IC problems. It's an IC problem if few engineers don't set up the engine while one or two do. It's a playerbase problem when it's constantly like that.

[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;47653978]Hippie really needs....[/QUOTE] Ah yes I do miss the funny PM's I got from great players like xXxTurtle_LoverxXx who couldn't complete a simple thought.

[QUOTE=Whitefox08;47654388]Ah yes I do miss the funny PM's I got from great players like xXxTurtle_LoverxXx who couldn't complete a simple thought.[/QUOTE] Imagine if it had TG's less shit players, with hippie's better code.

[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;47654244]Speaking as the Ex-Headmin there, not setting up the engine is an IC issue, not something the admins deal with. It's how things always have been and (probably) always will be. If you don't like it you'd have better luck being an engineer and doing it yourself or playing somewhere else.[/QUOTE] IMPO if you're selected for Engineer and knowingly ignore your job then you deserved to be jobbanned from Engineer because you've clearly demonstrated that you are too incompetent to adequately complete said job and/or are unwilling to learn how.

[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;47654743]IMPO if you're selected for Engineer and knowingly ignore your job then you deserved to be jobbanned from Engineer because you've clearly demonstrated that you are too incompetent to adequately complete said job and/or are unwilling to learn how.[/QUOTE] Ban the clown for not being funny!

Gosh, hippie has a really AWFUL playerbase. Every time there is even a millisecond of lag, you get about 5+ guys screaming "LAGGGGGGGGG" in ooc, like that will fucking fix it. And then you have the players who refuse to let medbay treat them and decide they can do it themselves, or even worse break into medbay storage (WHICH STILL DOESN'T HAVE ELECTRIFIED WINDOWS EVEN THOUGH IT GETS BROKEN INTO [B]EVERY[/B] ROUND ALONG WITH THE WINDOW NEXT TO THE MEDBAY DOORS. WHY AREN'T THESE THINGS FUCKING ELECTRIFIED.)

[QUOTE=Cassord;47655170]Gosh, hippie has a really AWFUL playerbase. Every time there is even a millisecond of lag, you get about 5+ guys screaming "LAGGGGGGGGG" in ooc, like that will fucking fix it. And then you have the players who refuse to let medbay treat them and decide they can do it themselves, or even worse break into medbay storage (WHICH STILL DOESN'T HAVE ELECTRIFIED WINDOWS EVEN THOUGH IT GETS BROKEN INTO [B]EVERY[/B] ROUND ALONG WITH THE WINDOW NEXT TO THE MEDBAY DOORS. WHY AREN'T THESE THINGS FUCKING ELECTRIFIED.)[/QUOTE] I made a PR with electrified windows and the codervan clearly stated they don't want electrified medical storage windows: [t]http://i.imgur.com/LZEUrhm.png[/t] That being said, Medbay can really be shitty at times on the doctors' ends as well. I had a couple rounds where MDs would literally slam the blast doors shut as soon as the round would start and literally sit there cradling the button, shutting it as soon as anyone leaves. I get the point behind it, but if I need to get someone to cryo/get a MDs attention and the blast doors are shut then it proves to be a rather large problem. But on the other hand, I do agree that those windows should be electrified because they are literally broken into every single round. [editline]Edited: [/editline] [QUOTE=Whitefox08;47654880]Ban the clown for not being funny![/QUOTE] Oh right, I forgot the clown not being funny caused the station to fall into disarray typically resulting in the shuttle having to be called.

I once had a Geneticist tell me to leave while i had myself changed to Genetics by the HoP because i asked the HoP for a custom title :v Like i had access to your doors you ass doesn't that say enough Luckily the HoP was kind enough to confirm my job change through the PDA [editline]4th May 2015[/editline] And then the power turned off :V

I don't play Hippie anymore. The playerbase is toxic and the admins never help, it's always "ye ic issue m8". I don't think getting bombed as the AI for no reason is IC, nor is someone harrassing and trying to kill me 3 rounds in a row is IC too. Even if they were IC reasons it's not like there's competent security anyways, the only people who play security on Hippie do it for ez access to the armory or end up dying 5 minutes in to greytide.

There is an easy way to reform the player base it's fairly simple. 1.Stricter admins/Rules See with it being a lightRP server you expect some things to be as they are, but there's just so many greytiders,shitlers,meta buddies, and general shit heads that the admins are overwhelmed. Admins need to start taking a stance on general bad behavior and greytiding. 2.Better antag rules This will sound stupid but if you know hippies playerbase it makes sense. Their rules literally say antags are free to griff. Okay fine but where does your antags fun begin where others end? Murder boning with an elbow and sword is so common one guy nearly racked up 30 kills with about 60-70 players on. His reason? "Huur antag better kill!" Come the fuck on, have a reason to murder bone; such as getting caught in the act,escaping alone, or defending yourself. Killing new arrivals and locker hiding is just poor fucking form. 3.Jobs Holy shit can you imagine a station where the AI yells there's no power? Yeah but imagine it's 9/10's of the time and the engines are never set up and power fails. The mime ends up fixing shit because engineering can't? Security being utterly fucking terrible save a few good players, hell most sec players just want easy weapon access and this coming from someone who plays sec on a regular basis on hippie. Viros release shit viruses every fucking round,MDs not setting cryo up/locking themselves in. Start punish players who blatantly ignore their duties for the job they play. 4. Non-Antags acting like antags Jesus fuck you know how many people break into work places and harass other players? Attack security,stealing objective items, calling out false antags, and etc? This is just one of the worst cases of this on any goddamn server I mean holy shit I can find an assistant whose in posseion of secrect docs,teleporter,and blue prints. Low and fucking behold that they're not an antag at the end of the round and you question fucking why you either killed them or perma brigged them in the first place. Not to mention armory raids, I swear to fucking god if you raid armory and I'm sec you're getting exectued you have no goddamn reason to be doing this shit. Hell messing with Security during team-antag rounds as a non-cultist or rev is going to get you killed but ya know. BOINK. Here are several examples of shit you see on Hippie that is a result of not so good admins and terrible player base: People who steal the championship belts and go around beating people into crit and usually are pardoned by the admins if you attempt to stop them from fucking with other players. Engineers being so incompetent that the station power fails are common every round, even if there's no powersink. Virologist on a consistent basis releasing bad viruses for no reason at all, chemists not making cryomixes,MD's neglecting many aspects of their jobs granted being a doctor is hetic Security doing jackshit against anything, last cult round I was in only 2 security members were trying to stop the cult and that was me and BlessedHeretic. Captain tried to all well but Warden,HoS, and 4 others didn't care, this seems to be very common as well along with shitsec. Random players just plain attacking each other because they want some valids to get or want to ruin other player's round Terrible character names, I hate this a lot. If you cannot make a proper name that isn't blatantly racist then you're clearly a closet racist. Hell I should just observe one round to just see what else I can rack up at the moment. Will suggest better ideas when not typing on a phone.

Easy things to say, but very difficult to achieve on an 80 man server without becoming draconian.

Here's what we have to do to get rid of the awful players: Anyone who tries to play a racist joke-character - ban. Anyone who uses internet terminology in character - a warning, then ban if they keep doing it. Anyone who keeps showing their toxic behavior in OOC - warnings, then a ban. Here's my reasoning for it: A decent player wouldn't play a racist joke-character, and a majority of those players are just that. They're not even very good at it. Unless the joke-character is actually good and can give a chuckle, then it's something worth over-looking. I'm really sick of all these Tyrones and DeShawns. The terminology thing might not seem like a big thing yet, but if we keep letting it happen, then the IC could lose all credibility and eventually de-evolve into Goon where everyone talks OOCly in IC chat. It's just not SS13 that way. And I'm not saying enforcing RP-rules or anything stupid like that, but there should be a line between IC and OOC. And about the toxic behavior, unless the person can change for the better and stop shouting insults or dumb jokes, get rid of him. But the person should be given warnings first. I don't mean ban them for throwing an insult at someone or saying something stupid or offensive, but if they keep doing it all the time it would encourage bad behaviour to everyone else. This part will probably need most amount of work and supervision, but if we all work little by little on this the community will get steadily better. Worst-case scenario we will have to enact player-limit on the server.

[QUOTE=GlebGuy;47656706] And I'm not saying enforcing RP-rules or anything stupid like that[/QUOTE] That's actually exactly what you're saying.

[QUOTE=GlebGuy;47656706]Here's what we have to do to get rid of the awful players: Anyone who tries to play a racist joke-character - ban. [B]Anyone who uses internet terminology in character - a warning, then ban if they keep doing it.[/B] Anyone who keeps showing their toxic behavior in OOC - warnings, then a ban. The terminology thing might not seem like a big thing yet, but if we keep letting it happen, then the IC could lose all credibility and eventually de-evolve into Goon where everyone talks OOCly in IC chat. [/QUOTE] Ok that's a BAY level rule right there, it's definitely not fun knowing that if you make a slip up herr camp comandant will descend from the admin tower and bust yer backside for saying "lol" Here's a funfact man people say LOL out loud IRL, it grates my nerves every time and I mention how silly it sounds every time but fuck me, it's happening. The issue with a text based chat interface is that people are going to use text based chat terminologies, typing full words in real time is a hassle and using an internet shorthand can mean the difference between getting shot by an ebow and having time to dodge. And no, using lol will not lead to an abandonment of IC/OOC divide, the worst I ever saw in THAT regard was someone mentioning a wiki page an engineer could look up to help him set up the sing, heck as RD I often PDA scientists a guide to R&D, get them the parts and then go about my day, coming back to find Research maxxed and a shiny new Phazon waiting for me.

God, yeah. Hippie really needs a step up in their admins and rules. I was jobbanned from all sec for a week (thankfully lifted, maybe not intentionally.) for executing two assistants when I thought it was rev, but it wasn't rev, they were just tiding shitters. Oh, and they really need to start banning people for having shitty unfunny names. and shitting up ooc and they need to remove the ass blowing off if you fart too much thing [QUOTE=GlebGuy;47656706] Anyone who uses internet terminology in character - a warning, then ban if they keep doing it. [/QUOTE] Yeah, honestly I really hate this, but I don't think it should be a ban. Definitely make fun of them for it IC though, ask them what a "lol" is, and if they respond with some dumb shit like "is this your first day on your internet" or something like that instead of apologizing for it, TA-DA! you have a bonafide shitler right there, folks.

Hey if people wanna make a joke character... why not add a race for it? "Internet Mongloid" [quote]A subspecies of human that developed on a world where light was scares, space was at a premium, education systems were non existent but for SOME REASON had decent exonet connectivity. The whole world got all it's knowledge, education and political bias from the shit being flung around by anonymous people on obscure forums. The years of troglodyte lifestyles, cheap barely edible ready meals, and a little background radiation to pollute the genes has resulted in a race of people who are borderline brain damaged, have no less than three different personality disorders (and a few self diagnosed ones to boot) and a culture that can only be described as [I]"A horrific Frankensteins monster of all the terrible shower thoughts humanity has ever had."[/I] Yet due to new [I]"Equal Opportunities"[/I] and [I]"Anti-Opression"[/I] hugbox policies, NT stations are REQUIRED to allow these barely human toxic flesh dumps to join the crews. Needless to say there is a vast array of people very willing to quickly dispose to these walking nuisances the second they step out of line, more often than not their own kind will turn on them given the excuse.[/quote] Implement a rule that they are valid as fuck as soon as they commit any transgression and bobs yer uncle.

[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;47657775]This is a genius idea and should be implemented asap :v: Also uh, what's the best way to get into SS13? I've been wondering this for a good month or two while I've stalked about this thread.[/QUOTE] I find the best way is to get a friend who plays. There's so much to learn and so much to know in order to have fun without feeling like shit. Having to type over mentor chat can be a hassle (especially when someone's pressuring you), and depending on the server people will be cautious about typing about controls over IC. If you have mumble or something you can add me on steam and I'll show you the ropes. [editline]asdf[/editline] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3MQxsoKlI4]Otherwise[/url]

Get excite for SCOM this friday.

I'll do my best to whip my team into shape, I've been extremely distant for the past few weeks due to depression, and I've been to the point of nearly offing myself about 6 times within the past month. So that's why I haven't really been doing anything relating to SS13 for awhile and I've been letting the Head admins pretty much take the helm in my absence. Also, if any of you are worried, I'm looking into the idea of seeing a Therapist or a Psychiatrist.

Always seek help if you're thinking of suicide, depression isn't something you can power through by grit alone. Go get help as soon as possible, if you procrastinate you'll just keep getting more and more depressed.

Got a day ban from hippie for killing a guy after he asked me to when I bucklecuffed him for slipping people with lube. What. I wasn't even a security officer, I was originally just going to bucklecuff him, disposal his spray bottle (since we were in disposals office), take some stuff I wanted from him, and let him go. He even had cuffs (the metal kind) and duct tape in his backpack, which I assume he was going to use for bad things (When are duct tape and handcuffs ever a good thing to be found in someone's backpack?).

[QUOTE=Cassord;47660282](When are duct tape and handcuffs ever a good thing to be found in someone's backpack?).[/QUOTE] I always try to carry a pair of handcuffs with me in case I happen to stumble upon someone that would try to kill me since it's usually safer and wiser to just disarm and cuff someone than beat them unconscious or straight up kill them.

Hearing what the situation at Hippie is like it seems to be a copy of the problems that Eden had and ultimately caused its downfall. The light RP mixed with a lax admin interaction seems like a good concept at first but the absolute toxic playerbase of SS13 turns it from a somewhat open rp game mixed with gamemodes into a giant PVP valid hunting shitfest where nobody does their jobs and everyone is just looking for ways to fuck shit up and bend the rules. Nobody does their roles even in the slightest and just abuses the roles's access and equipment to be more "robust". It's either a cockwaving robustness contest or troll feeding grounds. [QUOTE=RG4ORDR;47656399]There is an easy way to reform the player base it's fairly simple. 1.Stricter admins/Rules 2.Better antag rules 3.Jobs 4. Non-Antags acting like antags Hell I should just observe one round to just see what else I can rack up at the moment. Will suggest better ideas when not typing on a phone.[/QUOTE] These EXACT things plus some extra naming rules killed New Eden, when we switched from shitfest into somewhat more organized shitfest with proper rules the entire player base revolted and went to Hippie. You have to deal with the player base and try to get the best out of it because the chance that it will change without destroying the player count are very slim.

[QUOTE=zese;47660463]I always try to carry a pair of handcuffs with me in case I happen to stumble upon someone that would try to kill me since it's usually safer and wiser to just disarm and cuff someone than beat them unconscious or straight up kill them.[/QUOTE] I was talking about that combination in specific. [editline]4th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=pip12345;47660483]Hearing what the situation at Hippie is like it seems to be a copy of the problems that Eden had and ultimately caused its downfall. The light RP mixed with a lax admin interaction seems like a good concept at first but the absolute toxic playerbase of SS13 turns it from a somewhat open rp game mixed with gamemodes into a giant PVP valid hunting shitfest where nobody does their jobs and everyone is just looking for ways to fuck shit up and bend the rules. Nobody does their roles even in the slightest and just abuses the roles's access and equipment to be more "robust". It's either a cockwaving robustness contest or troll feeding grounds. These EXACT things plus some extra naming rules killed New Eden, when we switched from shitfest into somewhat more organized shitfest with proper rules the entire player base revolted and went to Hippie. You have to deal with the player base and try to get the best out of it because the chance that it will change without destroying the player count are very slim.[/QUOTE] I guess this just means that hippiestation is forever doomed to be a containment server.