Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft V4 - We're gonna be RICH! - Games

[QUOTE=Masamune;49729937]I officially hate aggro Shaman more than I ever hated face Hunter. It's fucking [I]disgusting[/I].[/QUOTE] Shaman got the coin? Enjoy this fucker on turn one [img]http://i.imgur.com/K4U2M0m.png[/img]

To be fair Warlock's always had Succubus for the same effect, although discard is way worse than overload

4-3 is infinitely worse than 3-4, on top of discarding being worse than overload.

Double shield bot opener Fuck me Paladin is the cancer of this game

Minibot is absolutely one of those cards I'm happy to get rid off when Standard's released. On the other hand it's gonna be really sad to see the cards that never really became that popular get kicked out too. GvG had some of my favourite silly cards. Trade Prince Gallywix, Hobgoblin, Recombobulator, Sneed's Old Shredder, Mekgineer Thermaplugg, Iron Juggernaut. Also just realised that Druid of the Fang is gone, and Blizzard has been pushing for a Beast Druid archetype since forever now.

Yeah it will be really strange to see them go I hope the new system and the new expansion will make it so that ranked will be more fun to play I'm meeting nothing but rush/face decks at the moment and it's always mage and paladin that beats me I face hunted my way to rank 5 last year, not doing that again. It's boring

I'm sad muster is gone, minibot can burn in hell tho Paladin might actually TRY argent lance now. Sucks seal of light is gone, it would actually see play without minibot existing imo. Card would have been better if it was "Give your hero +2 attack this turn. At the end of your turn, heal for 4."

[QUOTE=Xenophobia;49736023]How are you even supposed to enter this game as a new player? The cards you start with seem so inferior to pretty much everything else in the game, and you can kiss any wins goodbye if you arent extremely lucky with card draws while your enemy is extremely unlucky... This isn't fun at all.[/QUOTE] sell your kidney to get enough money to buy cardpacks.

[QUOTE=Xenophobia;49736023]How are you even supposed to enter this game as a new player? The cards you start with seem so inferior to pretty much everything else in the game, and you can kiss any wins goodbye if you arent extremely lucky with card draws while your enemy is extremely unlucky... This isn't fun at all.[/QUOTE] That's the problem with the game. Without paying forward a lot you're already behind. They're trying to alleviate this by introducing a new game mode that will eliminate some of those bullshit cards you can't beat at first. Though even then you'll still have to grind for gold/packs or purchase them.

[QUOTE=Xenophobia;49736023]How are you even supposed to enter this game as a new player? The cards you start with seem so inferior to pretty much everything else in the game, and you can kiss any wins goodbye if you arent extremely lucky with card draws while your enemy is extremely unlucky... This isn't fun at all.[/QUOTE] Do you have any friends who play the game? It can be a rough start but it's good if you've got buddies who can give advice or grind you to level 10 if you're not already there

[QUOTE=Xenophobia;49736023]How are you even supposed to enter this game as a new player? The cards you start with seem so inferior to pretty much everything else in the game, and you can kiss any wins goodbye if you arent extremely lucky with card draws while your enemy is extremely unlucky... This isn't fun at all.[/QUOTE] Wait for Standard format to come out

[QUOTE=NotAName;49738798]Wait for Standard format to come out[/QUOTE] Standard Format does not fix the issue with new players having to pay up their ass to have any viability.

[QUOTE=SinjinOmega;49738883]Standard Format does not fix the issue with new players having to pay up their ass to have any viability.[/QUOTE] It doesn't fix it, but it mitigates it. Naxx is a must and it's gone, so that's 3500 less gold to spend. GvG has a lot of very strong cards that will be gone. Blackrock isn't necessary except for maybe the first wing, and The Grand Tournament is a dud except for Mysterious Challenger (and Secret Paladin might not exist after Avenge and every good Paladin tempo card gone.) So basically you would need Classic, some of Blackrock and LoE maybe, and whatever's good in the new expansion. And none of the cards you would want from Blackrock / LoE are as important as Sludge Belcher, Mad Scientist, Zombie Chow, etc.

[QUOTE=Lolkork;49738938]But with naxx and gvg a lot of the cards in tgt will become more popular.[/QUOTE] And the difference in power between Classic and TGT isn't as insane as Naxx and GvG

[QUOTE=Lolkork;49738951]You will still need a bunch of cards from all the sets to build a good deck.[/QUOTE] Which is why I said it doesn't fix the problem, it just mitigates it.

[QUOTE=Lolkork;49738957]It will just stop it from becoming worse than it is[/QUOTE] Going forward, maybe. But the next expansion specifically will remove 2 expansions when it launches, and those 2 expansions have some of the strongest cards that exist in the game. And the next expansion won't have to compete with them, so it probably won't have as many staple cards.

wont they release a new expansion with the release of standard? for all we know blizzard fucks up again and only the new expansion is played.

iirc Ben said they are only doing nerfs to the basic and classic cards. [editline]today[/editline] Ah, here we go: [quote=Ben Brode] * No plans on buffing any cards during the balance pass. * The number of card changes will be more than 2 cards but less than 20. * They're looking at Druid basic cards as Druids use more basic cards than any other class. * Ideally they will change as little as possible with the nerfs so old cards stay recognizable. [/quote]

[QUOTE=Noob4life;49740574]irrc Ben said they are only doing nerfs to the basic and classic cards.[/QUOTE] [b]Patch Notes[/b] - [i]Backstab[/i] now deals 1 damage. - [i]Northshire Cleric[/i] is now a 0/1. - [i]Fiery War Axe[/i] is now a 3/1. - [i]Flametongue Totem[/i] is now a 0/2 and only gives the minion to its left +1 Attack. - [i]Animal Companion[/i]'s Huffer is now a 3/1, Misha is now a 3/3, and Leokk is now a 2/2. - [i]Kill Command[/i] now deals 2 damage without a Beast, and 4 damage with a Beast. (And so on, and so forth)

[QUOTE=AbeX300;49740664][b]Patch Notes[/b] - [i]Backstab[/i] now deals 1 damage. - [i]Northshire Cleric[/i] is now a 0/1. - [i]Fiery War Axe[/i] is now a 3/1. - [i]Flametongue Totem[/i] is now a 0/2 and only gives the minion to its left +1 Attack. - [i]Animal Companion[/i]'s Huffer is now a 3/1, Misha is now a 3/3, and Leokk is now a 2/2. - [i]Kill Command[/i] now deals 2 damage without a Beast, and 4 damage with a Beast. (And so on, and so forth)[/QUOTE] But you are breaking the souls of the cards!

[QUOTE=AbeX300;49740664][b]Patch Notes[/b] - [i]Animal Companion[/i]'s Huffer is now a 3/1, Misha is now a 3/3, and Leokk is now a 2/2. - [i]Kill Command[/i] now deals 2 damage without a Beast, and 4 damage with a Beast. (And so on, and so forth)[/QUOTE] I would actually like these two

[QUOTE=NiandraLades;49741352]I would actually like these two[/QUOTE] But the point of Animal Companion is that you get a slightly OP 3 drop, which is offset by it being random. There would be no point running the card if it just gave you a Wolfrider or Ironfur Grizzly or Raid Leader (besides the beast tag I guess but that's hardly enough).

[QUOTE=Kljunas;49741420]But the point of Animal Companion is that you get a slightly OP 3 drop, which is offset by it being random. There would be no point running the card if it just gave you a Wolfrider or Ironfur Grizzly or Raid Leader (besides the beast tag I guess but that's hardly enough).[/QUOTE] That's a good point - I guess I'm just kinda bitter when it comes to hunter :v:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Cp7iCfK.jpg[/IMG] I actually like this Brawl, but [I]man[/I] Coined out a Trogg turn 1, got it again turn 2, got it [I]again[/I] turn 3 I don't know if they got a second one in their discovery or they just drew it twice or what but that's surprisingly hard to come back from

[t]http://i.imgur.com/ejEQUYJ.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/Ak1jKe2.jpg[/t] [B]THE DREAM[/B]

[QUOTE=MrDestroyer;49744183] [B]THE DREAM[/B][/QUOTE] Man I will REALLY miss that damn robot.

Why is everyone talking as though these cards are no longer going to exist. Are people all just going to switch to standard mode instantly?

[QUOTE=Phiron;49746181]Why is everyone talking as though these cards are no longer going to exist. Are people all just going to switch to standard mode instantly?[/QUOTE] yes there will a new expansion/meta and the new standard mode will also be the main mode in hs there's no fucking way im sticking to the secret paly wild mode :v

I'll miss a few cards from GVG and Nax but it will be so refreshing to play without Dr. boom, shredder, creepers and eggs etc in every single match so I'll probably be playing mostly standard. I'm sure I'll still try silly gimmick decks in wild though.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/NbgWAAI.png[/img] What about something like this? Kinda replaces Avenge and Coghammer, both of which Paladin is losing. It might tread too much on familiar territory though I guess.