Dark Souls + Demon's Souls + Bloodborne Megathread VIII. At The End
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Can you believe that in 2016 there are still people who unironically say Kosm
[QUOTE=JesterUK;49865688]Can you believe that in 2016 there are still people who unironically say Kosm[/QUOTE]
Some days ago I was helping people fighting off the last boss of the Old Hunters and I noticed for the first time that [sp]SHE HAS A WOMAN'S FACE[/sp]
As someone that never got really far into DS1 (I only got far enough to ring the first bell), I honestly found 2 a lot easier to get into. But then again maybe that's not necessarily a good thing to long time fans.
[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;49865591]You know what's ironic?
I've spent several posts whining about Dark Souls II, and the game is really the only Souls game I regretted buying, but it did something great, as far as I'm concerned: it made dual-wielding a thing, and so gave dexterity players something to differentiate themselves from all the other guys with a shield and a big sword (unless you are playing a caster)[/QUOTE]
I still say you haven't lived until you've attempted a punch run
Dark souls 3 will probably be the first game where I attempt a pugilist run at some point. Auto dual wielding with the caestus and punching the sense out of some hollows sounds too good
There's apparently a fist weapon called (Dark souls 3 weapon spoilers):[sp]Demon's Fist. Its weapon art is a flame whirlwind.[/sp]
edit: I'm actually contemplating just going ahead and watching these videos now, at least Vaati's. It's going to be a few weeks so as long as I watch them just once then I can hopefully not remember all of it when release comes about but also stay away when the JP version comes out
I've never liked Vaty since that video came out rather convincingly accussing him of being a plagiarizing tool. Has that been debunked or something?
It helps that I didn't like the guy to begin with. Something about his tone of voice made him sound like a dickhead for making kinda late videos about things literally everyone knew about or speculation literally everyone had gone through already. His popularity doesn't help, because everyone takes his word for things like it's final.
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;49866147]I've never liked Vaty since that video came out rather convincingly accussing him of being a plagiarizing tool. Has that been debunked or something?
It helps that I didn't like the guy to begin with. Something about his tone of voice made him sound like a dickhead for making kinda late videos about things literally everyone knew about or speculation literally everyone had gone through already. His popularity doesn't help, because everyone takes his word for things like it's final.[/QUOTE]
This guy from reddit p much debunks the allegation:
[quote]/u/BlondeMcGuinn
"Here's the thing man: In a court of law, Vaati couldn't be convicted of shit. The evidence is not compelling. The Lucatiel bit that Aegon had in his video seemed like a smoking gun at first, but then I thought, Who in his right mind would watch a lore video and then make a similar lore video using the same characters, the same dialogue, very similar choreography, and the same location, and then deny he'd ever seen the original lore video? It seems more likely to me that it's just coincidence.
As for Vaati skimming off Redgrave, again, the evidence isn't there. Aegon's now deleted video featured some bullshit plagiarism detecting software that seemed to show that Vaati had plagiarized Redgrave. What Aegon didn't tell us was that the software was a trial version that could only accept so many characters at once. It was all horseshit. That entire video used dubious means to make Vaati look like a goddamn scoundrel. Aegon got shit for the video (deservedly so IMO) and he deleted it.
I dig the videos and work of all these guys and I support none of them financially. Folks blame Vaati for this controversy, I don't. It was one man's jealousy that started this shit. He took it too far and it ended up hurting a lot of folks. The whole thing is a goddamn mess.
Edit: In fairness to Aegon, I don't believe any of his actions were nefarious whatsoever. If I was him, and I put the work into making videos that he does and I saw Vaati's Lucatiel video, I'd be like, What the fuck?! But he cannot be objective about such things. I think he just got caught up in making a case. Aegon is human, Aegon fucked up, and, BTW, Aegon makes great lore videos."[/quote]
I feel like there's a hate bandwagon on vaati's shit, just like some of his fans have a 'love' bandwagon and take all of his stuff as gospel.
Vaati is sometimes wrong in his videos, and he's also, sometimes right. Plus, he throws in speculation which can be argued as true or false aswell; which shockingly makes him a human being. He doesn't deserve the hate he gets on this forum.
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edit: I'm actually contemplating just going ahead and watching these videos now, at least Vaati's. It's going to be a few weeks so as long as I watch them just once then I can hopefully not remember all of it when release comes about but also stay away when the JP version comes out[/QUOTE]
I always recommend avoiding Vaati's videos. He's gone into the realms of fanfiction and has added so much bullshit with his "theories" that other people are starting to spread his bullshit even if it's not in the games. His video about DS1's lore and how the Lords were given "A Light Soul, a Dark Soul, a Life Soul, and a Death Soul." Still pisses me off, there's nothing about that in the games.
His shitty storytelling robs all characters of their agency and boils everything down to essentially being destiny or some contrived bullshit. I don't think Vaati is a bad guy, I just think he's an awful storyteller and his tendency to use his own assumptions to build more assumptions on the lore has been incredibly toxic to the community. Instead of actually playing the games and paying attention to what's happening people just say "Well it's too complicated, I'll just watch VaatiVidya."
When it comes to lore I most just listen to ENB or read random theories on Reddit.
Personally I'm not that concerned with the lore. I mostly just enjoy the gameplay.
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;49862895]How? And with so little health left?[/QUOTE]
The little HP is basically for RTSR mode with the cursed poorman gems. Along with max beasthood meter + a paper, its the closest you can get to a "hyper mode", which in DaS1 was power within + rtsr + dragon buff.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/t3DR0oq.jpg[/IMG]
here are his stats.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;49866317]I always recommend avoiding Vaati's videos. He's gone into the realms of fanfiction and has added so much bullshit with his "theories" that other people are starting to spread his bullshit even if it's not in the games. His video about DS1's lore and how the Lords were given "A Light Soul, a Dark Soul, a Life Soul, and a Death Soul." Still pisses me off, there's nothing about that in the games.
His shitty storytelling robs all characters of their agency and boils everything down to essentially being destiny or some contrived bullshit. I don't think Vaati is a bad guy, I just think he's an awful storyteller and his tendency to use his own assumptions to build more assumptions on the lore has been incredibly toxic to the community. Instead of actually playing the games and paying attention to what's happening people just say "Well it's too complicated, I'll just watch VaatiVidya."[/QUOTE]
I was only watching his videos since the format suits what I want to see, which was some general gameplay from a few of the areas and some of the finer details (which I got. Skipped[sp]fighting whatever that large fire beast thing was[/sp]and some NPC lines though, just need a general idea)
I don't like his manner of speaking/narration style, and don't really pay attention to his theory crafting (he did put *theory* on the screen when he was doing some straw-grasping)
At the end of the day I wouldn't rely on his videos to explain the lore anyway
But yeah after watching the three videos I don't feel too overly spoiled. There's some cool NPC interactions which could go further, so it's not like I've decided definitely not to do something
I do feel spoiled about one part though,[sp]the firekeeper pit.[/sp]If there was one thing I'd like to experience on my own it'd be that, hopefully I forget it by release but it should still be emotional to see it in person. Loving what I've seen so far. Hopefully I can stay away until April now
[QUOTE=Makol;49866343]When it comes to lore I most just listen to ENB or read random theories on Reddit.
Personally I'm not that concerned with the lore. I mostly just enjoy the gameplay.[/QUOTE]
I love the lore in the games, and I have to say ENB is by far the nicest to listen to. His style is much more more casual and he comes across more genuine because of it. Vaati's commentary comes across as trying to be ~deep~ and it wears kind of thin. He clearly cares about the game, his stuff just isn't for me.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;49866466]I love the lore in the games, and I have to say ENB is by far the nicest to listen to. His style is much more more casual and he comes across more genuine because of it. Vaati's commentary comes across as trying to be ~deep~ and it wears kind of thin. He clearly cares about the game, his stuff just isn't for me.[/QUOTE]
I like ENB since he just comes off as a normal dude in his videos. Vaati just comes off as fake and trying to be ~deep~ like you said.
[editline]4th March 2016[/editline]
Also ENB's new game dev videos are pretty cool. I like that he's branching out to other things.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;49866317]I always recommend avoiding Vaati's videos. He's gone into the realms of fanfiction and has added so much bullshit with his "theories" that other people are starting to spread his bullshit even if it's not in the games. His video about DS1's lore and how the Lords were given "A Light Soul, a Dark Soul, a Life Soul, and a Death Soul." Still pisses me off, there's nothing about that in the games.
His shitty storytelling robs all characters of their agency and boils everything down to essentially being destiny or some contrived bullshit. I don't think Vaati is a bad guy, I just think he's an awful storyteller and his tendency to use his own assumptions to build more assumptions on the lore has been incredibly toxic to the community. Instead of actually playing the games and paying attention to what's happening people just say "Well it's too complicated, I'll just watch VaatiVidya."[/QUOTE]
Vaati is so very much to be taken with a grain of salt, really
[editline]4th March 2016[/editline]
I find his stories alright but him introing with that "a light soul, a dark soul, etc" shit is VERY annoying when it doesn't have anything to do with what the rest of the story is about
[editline]4th March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Nidhogg;49862667]
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Another thing that bothers me about Vaati is that I feel like I'm being talked to, likes a one way conversation. ENB on the other had feels like an actual conversation most of the time
I had a blast watching Plague of Gripes DS1 playthrough, he sure gripes a lot but I did love his vision toward Siegmeyer and Solaire for example. Each episode is long but they're more to listen as a podcast.
[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;49862619]getting the rakuyo in BB.. is a fucking struggle for me on new game plus at the moment[/QUOTE]
Parry them, I didn't even have the SBB and I still did it easily. Parrying is just weird against them because they have such a long wind up time that you get nervous and prematurely blow your load.
What you really have to watch out for is their dive attack but just unlock the camera and get the fuck out of the way like you would for Ebrietas' charge attack
[QUOTE=JesterUK;49865688]Can you believe that in 2016 there are still people who unironically say Kosm[/QUOTE]
Can you believe that in 2016 there are still people who unironically have no insight.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;49866466]I love the lore in the games, and I have to say ENB is by far the nicest to listen to. His style is much more more casual and he comes across more genuine because of it. Vaati's commentary comes across as trying to be ~deep~ and it wears kind of thin. He clearly cares about the game, his stuff just isn't for me.[/QUOTE]
Does ENB do videos anymore? I subscribed to him, but I'm not getting any feeds from him. I do like ENB's videos moreso than Vaati, but when ENB kind of stopped doing lore videos, I turned to Vaati. It wasn't until the whole plagiarizing scandal got my attention. Personally I think they both have the right idea, but if I were to choose, I want ENB to do more lore videos. There was also a false rumor going around that someone tried something on ENB's channel and he got mad and scared everyone off.
Vaati's last video though. Dead God character spoilers so big that I can't believe that I watched until the end. I'm definitely stopping now.
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;49867251]Does ENB do videos anymore? I subscribed to him, but I'm not getting any feeds from him. I do like ENB's videos moreso than Vaati, but when ENB kind of stopped doing lore videos, I turned to Vaati. It wasn't until the whole plagiarizing scandal got my attention. Personally I think they both have the right idea, but if I were to choose, I want ENB to do more lore videos. There was also a false rumor going around that someone tried something on ENB's channel and he got mad and scared everyone off.
Vaati's last video though. Dead God character spoilers so big that I can't believe that I watched until the end. I'm definitely stopping now.[/QUOTE]
He's gone dark to avoid DS3 spoilers, but he is currently uploading content that isn't related to DS.
[editline]4th March 2016[/editline]
He's got a game dev series and a Dragon's Crown series going on right now.
And I think he uploaded a new podcast a while ago.
Can anyone get a wallpaper version of that animated Red Knight set they have in the trailers for DS3? I got the still picture but I'd love an animated wallpaper, shit looks great.
Anyone else rolling deprived for their first playthrough of Dark Souls III?
as it turns out i got the dates of my exams off by a whole month so now i get to enjoy dark souls 3 uninterrupted by academic events
[QUOTE=Makol;49867352]I think he uploaded a new podcast a while ago.[/QUOTE]
It was last week, I believe. Soulsborne stuff has been tough for him to get into, after writing the guide for The Old Hunters, and stuff. But he still posts videos fairly regularly. There was a few week gap from the end of From The Dark and his Game Dev / Dragon's Crown series. However! He did say that he's doing a Blind run of DS3 when it first comes out. So there's that.
Interview with Miyazaki that peeps might have missed
[url]http://www.vg247.com/2016/03/02/dark-souls-3-miyazaki-bloodborne-interview/[/url]
[quote]“My preference is to return to something structurally a little more like the first game, and Bloodborne, with the world a little more connected” – Miyazaki[/quote]
[QUOTE=KaptonJack;49867809]It was last week, I believe. Soulsborne stuff has been tough for him to get into, after writing the guide for The Old Hunters, and stuff. But he still posts videos fairly regularly. There was a few week gap from the end of From The Dark and his Game Dev / Dragon's Crown series. However! He did say that he's doing a Blind run of DS3 when it first comes out. So there's that.[/QUOTE]
Really looking forward to his playthrough. Should be fun to watch.
So I've been thinking and isn't the brain of mensis a joke character?
I mean it's covered in eyes and literally stares daggers into you. It's just a giant pun.
Also the sequel to bloodborne should be called Bloodborne: First Blood: Part 2
Playing some more Demon's Souls. Just defeated Flamelurker and Adjudicator.
[url]http://www.twitch.tv/nidbutt[/url]
[QUOTE=Hellsing4682;49867612]Anyone else rolling deprived for their first playthrough of Dark Souls III?[/QUOTE]
Definitely knight for me. That fucking armor is so sexy.
[editline]4th March 2016[/editline]
You guys see Vaati's third video? Some *very* interesting info on a certain gameplay element in there. Goes without saying some early game spoilers are involved.
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig5WNr4U2WQ]Fine, here's a link since everyone's getting so pissy about it.[/url]
Watch it at your own risk, that's a load of goddamn spoiler for simply 17 minutes
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