[QUOTE=Dzonintz;50025846]Or stack the jungle and actually leave it to cores who will benefit from them way more than you will. Also IDK what you're talking about since mana leak is perfect for punishing people out of position early game, especially if you tp mid when enemy tries to dive and similar, so even if the gank fails you leave enemy mid mana starved and ensure your midder's dominance.
Leaving offlaner mana starved while harassed with only right clicks instead of using illuminate and risking missing him while ruining creep equilibrium and spending a lot of mana is often way better alternative.[/QUOTE]
Many meta cores this patch can't farm big stacks, so what are you going to do if you don't have a Sven or Beastmaster or something?
Also guess what mana leak has the same mana drain percentage at all levels so level 1 mana leak still fucks a diving midlaner or out of position hero :)
Also you keep bringing up how illuminate will damage the creep equilibrium but have u tried actually positioning yourself and aiming properly??? It's so easy to not hit the creepwave and force the offlaner way the fuck away from XP range, or if you scare him INTO his wave, guess what, you don't magically not have autoattacks because you leveled illuminate, go shoot him with your staff
Thank you, pugna and wyvern, for not making it a 60 min game while I play medusa. Really, stellar supports. Because of them, I didn't need to farm 60 mins to get farmed.
Opps, slight mistake. Because of them, the enemy spectre and nyx didn't need even 30 mins to get farmed.
Now, proceed on to blaming me, who died at most 4 times, during the time I was laning, because it certainly isn't your fault, you two who died like 5 times each in 15 mins.
never 4get
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This hero is king of save the retards
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I managed to lose a [URL="http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2258406584"]game[/URL] while carrying a Divine Rapier. :suicide:
For some reason during this match, I just decide "fuck it" and buy a Divine Rapier. I managed to not drop it at all.
I think the reason we lost the match is because Troll Warlord and Shadow Shaman were demolishing our buildings.
I wasn't able to defend against megacreeps because I was too squishy.
I thought satanic would have helped with that, but by that time I had spent my gold on buying most of a BKB.
I tried to distract the creeps attacking our ancient when the game ended, but I failed.
Medusa also bought a rapier, but she died and no one picked it up because the game ended.
yeah how is that even possible
you earned 16.9k gold but the value of your entire inventory is like 9k
[QUOTE=Quq;50030501]yeah how is that even possible
you earned 16.9k gold but the value of your entire inventory is like 9k[/QUOTE]
sell everything and buy rapira
I had an Antimage game where I sold all my shit to buy four or so rapiers.
Ironically we lost that game because I didn't buy enough rapiers. I had enough gold for another rapier but didn't want to forfeit my buyback, turns out my buyback was useless as fuck, the enemy main carry got away one hit from death before I died the first time.
It was a funny game though.
[QUOTE=Quq;50030501]yeah how is that even possible
you earned 16.9k gold but the value of your entire inventory is like 9k[/QUOTE]
I had gold that I was saving up to buy satanic with.
I had most of a BKB in my stash.
maybe you would have done better by having most of a BKB in your inventory
[QUOTE=Clovis;50025940]hey lets level splitshit when we have 50 damage lmao great idea
[editline]29th March 2016[/editline]
well its supposed to be split shot but it may as well be splitshit if youre not max level[/QUOTE]
I'm seeing alot of bandwagoning on this, 50 dmg is more than enough to last hit and that's all you need to be doing early game. Medusa takes like....90+ minutes of farm. If you can't last hit at 50 dmg, and have to take stats, you shouldn't be playing Medusa.
Is medusa mid viable?
I had a bad experience versus one today.
They would spam mystic snake on the creep wave and it would jump to me and be painful.
[QUOTE=ASIC;50031785]Is medusa mid viable?
[/QUOTE]
Literally everything is mid viable as long as you dont gank it/zone out
[QUOTE=ASIC;50031785]Is medusa mid viable?
I had a bad experience versus one today.
They would spam mystic snake on the creep wave and it would jump to me and be painful.[/QUOTE]
Our mid got completely obliterated by a Medusa earlier today
admittedly we didn't put much effort into ganking her but she took mid tower like 8 minutes in
also our mid was a slark for some reason and he kept going back to base when he got low i think
[editline]30th March 2016[/editline]
wait you weren't that slark were you
[QUOTE=Clovis;50031879]oh no its almost like you needed a magic wand or bottle or something[/QUOTE]
I Had bottle, I don't think it really helped me.
[QUOTE=VeLlix;50031897]Literally everything is mid viable as long as you dont gank it/zone out[/QUOTE]
I don't think some heroes are good mids.
I mean it would be hard for some of them to try to last hit without being bullied out of lane.
I think it is possible though depending upon the matchup.
I myself have played some weird mid heroes.
[editline]30th March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=unlimi_Ted;50032016]Our mid got completely obliterated by a Medusa earlier today
admittedly we didn't put much effort into ganking her but she took mid tower like 8 minutes in
also our mid was a slark for some reason and he kept going back to base when he got low i think
[editline]30th March 2016[/editline]
wait you weren't that slark were you[/QUOTE]
I was OD. In retrospect I should have leveled up Astral Imprisonment early.
I also lost mid tower early on.
Speaking of OD, what are good items on him?
I think Blink Dagger was good.
[QUOTE=Clovis;50031879]oh no its almost like you needed a magic wand or bottle or something[/QUOTE]
Neither of which is enough to heal up. That fucking snake deals 500-ish damage if it hits all creeps then the Hero.
If its hitting all the creeps + yourself every time you might have brain damage because if it gets max bounces there's easily enough time to move away, and if its that dire he was playing OD so he could've astral'd himself.
[QUOTE=Louis;50032146]If its hitting all the creeps + yourself every time you might have brain damage because if it gets max bounces there's easily enough time to move away, and if its that dire he was playing OD so he could've astral'd himself.[/QUOTE]
Didn't say every time, and it has a surprisingly large jump range. If you're a melee hero your choices are getting lasthits or getting wrecked by that fucking Snake. If you're a ranged hero (especially OD) then yeah, you should be able to escape it easily.
[QUOTE=Louis;50032146]If its hitting all the creeps + yourself every time you might have brain damage because if it gets max bounces there's easily enough time to move away, and if its that dire he was playing OD so he could've astral'd himself.[/QUOTE]
Um:
[QUOTE=ASIC;50032023]In retrospect I should have leveled up Astral Imprisonment early.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;50032210]Didn't say every time, and it has a surprisingly large jump range. If you're a melee hero your choices are getting lasthits or getting wrecked by that fucking Snake. If you're a ranged hero (especially OD) then yeah, you should be able to escape it easily.[/QUOTE]
While I agree with you on how it wrecks melee heroes, melee heroes tend to get wrecked mid anyway.
[QUOTE=mochisushi;50032335]While I agree with you on how it wrecks melee heroes, melee heroes tend to get wrecked mid anyway.[/QUOTE]
It's not just mid. Have you tried offlaning as any melee hero (except Dick Seer) vs Medusa?
Pick TA vs Medusa if she bothers you that much.
[QUOTE=mochisushi;50032335]While I agree with you on how it wrecks melee heroes, melee heroes tend to get wrecked mid anyway.[/QUOTE]
Bristleback seems to work as a mid, as long as you have a bottle and get runes to spam quill spray.
[QUOTE=ASIC;50032305]Um:[/QUOTE]
Great job dude, but I said that as a fallback. Its really not difficult to not get hit by the snake after the first few times unless you get hit by standing too close to a creep and getting insta-tagged, learn the cooldown and know when to bunch up with creeps and move in for last hits. Medusa mid should be hilariously easy to fuck with if you have supports doing anything at all.
[editline]30th March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;50032210]Didn't say every time, and it has a surprisingly large jump range. If you're a melee hero your choices are getting lasthits or getting wrecked by that fucking Snake. If you're a ranged hero (especially OD) then yeah, you should be able to escape it easily.[/QUOTE]
I've played dusa mid before and I know exactly how bullshit the snake can be, but that's only if you stand next to creeps. It has a longer bounce range than people think but like I said, after the first few times you should get the picture that its going to fucking kill you if you let it keep happening, that's basically all the hero can do to you at that phase in the game so when you take that out you have an even lane.
[QUOTE=Clovis;50033777]more like being true to 5500 mmr. high rating has lots of fucking feeders and time wasters like that[/QUOTE]
When u buy ur acct u don't care about ur rating as much as if u earned it
Disruptor for best pub support hero
Glimpse creates an untold amount of kills with uncoordinated players and with aether it has a range like assassinate
aghs for blocking bkb is really strong too
I may be a pinch biased cause I just had a lot of fun sending a Sven back to the fountain so many times that he was severely underleveled
