[QUOTE=leonthefox;49580327]I'm interested, care to ellaborate?[/QUOTE]
Late answer, but I have a friend who thinks that power creep is getting a little too insane. League of Legends is known for bringing "problematic" aspect down hard, Dota has been doing the opposite by bringing problematic aspects down pretty softly but buffing an insane amount of things in return across a wide spectrum of the game, in various ways. Octarine Core, Aether Lens, and Glimmer Cape all affected the game in some pretty wild ways. I don't think the game is too random or too pub balanced though. There has also been the issue of that [I]overly[/I] standout hero every patch that just becomes not fun to play against and hangs around for too long. Natures Prophet, Troll, Juggernaut, Leshrac, Invoker, etc. For sometimes being so God damn blatantly good IceFrog sees the need to just let their existence play out until the next patch drop. You could argue that if they got nerfed some other hero would take their place, and I will bet hundreds of dollars I don't have that Death Prophet is going to be a break out hero at some point because of something like this, but the amount of power those heroes held at the time (and still do in Invokers case) was pretty over the top compared to the rest of the meta heroes.
I also think the job of the support is getting harder and harder with the lack of super impactful support heroes now, but I also don't play a lot and could just be a fucking idiot for saying this. I think there are too many supports that just suck asshole if they don't have gold, which kind of defies the support role in my eyes. I'd like to see more support heroes be like Vengeful Spirit or Ancient Apparition, where they are still functionaly good without items. Meanwhile, if you're a Lion or Shadow Shaman without Blink Dagger, or a Keeper of the Light without Agh's, where your function as a hero is so drastically reduced without those items, you're pretty screwed. [B]E:[/B] Also, with the addition of things like Glimmer Cape, Solar Crest, Lotus Orb, and Guardian Greaves, there is a bit more of a need for a support to have money to have impact in fights. There are a [I]lot[/I] more castable effect items than there used to be. Like I said, I could be a total idiot for thinking this because I haven't been playing very much lately, but that's what I think.
Troll was really good starting at 6.81, but because no one noticed him yet he got buffed really hard two patches in a row.
Nice.
support's job is fantastic right now but the pool of viable supports is getting narrower and narrower, yes
Can't you just buy the recipe to refill the charges when it's already level 2? I remember my friend doing that a few years ago, was that patched or does it still work?
[QUOTE=Arktomys;49587964]Can't you just buy the recipe to refill the charges when it's already level 2? I remember my friend doing that a few years ago, was that patched or does it still work?[/QUOTE]
No
[QUOTE=devon_wargod;49587967]No[/QUOTE]
Huh, my memory fails me then I guess.
[QUOTE=Arktomys;49588053]Huh, my memory fails me then I guess.[/QUOTE]
You're probably thinking of Drums
[QUOTE=joshuadim;49586039][video=youtube;5H3dPyHglp4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H3dPyHglp4[/video][/QUOTE]
Wait, MoM silencer is a thing?
Also what item is tiny supposed to be using?
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[QUOTE=Banned?;49587509][B]E:[/B] Also, with the addition of things like Glimmer Cape, Solar Crest, Lotus Orb, and Guardian Greaves, there is a bit more of a need for a support to have money to have impact in fights. There are a [I]lot[/I] more castable effect items than there used to be. Like I said, I could be a total idiot for thinking this because I haven't been playing very much lately, but that's what I think.[/QUOTE]
I believed this was one of the reasons support bounty hunter was/is great: the addition of many supports items and the ability to get them faster than the average support.
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[QUOTE=Systema;49587730]support's job is fantastic right now but the pool of viable supports is getting narrower and narrower, yes[/QUOTE]
At this point I don't even know which supports are viable and which aren't.
[QUOTE=leonthefox;49588250]Wait, MoM silencer is a thing?[/QUOTE]
It's not
[QUOTE=leonthefox;49588250]Wait, MoM silencer is a thing?
Also what item is tiny supposed to be using?
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Tiny is using an Aether lens
Does Aether Lens increase the damage of nether ward, serpent wards, warlock golem, Tombstone, etc?
Any damage that is from a spell.
"Only amplifies damage dealt by the owner"
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;49589884]Pretty sure it increases damage of all spells. Damage type doesn't matter.
edit: Damn it Chicken, I saw that[/QUOTE]
You saw nothin, punk.
Does Aether Lens do anything to this freaking Necrophos aura?
Any reason why TAB key will select Elder Titan spirit unit for me but not for my friend ?
We have exact same config for summoned units etc but he keeps telling me that hitting tab won't select ET spirit, so he has to do it manually clicking on it.
[QUOTE=ThatSprite;49589686]It's not[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://puu.sh/mGJ00/66a565ba3e.jpg[/IMG]
theres the joke if it was missed
[QUOTE=Knurr;49590045]Does Aether Lens do anything to this freaking Necrophos aura?[/QUOTE]
Aether Lense only affects things that are worded "range", and not "radius". That means SK burrowstrike has more cast range, but it doesn't have an increased AoE in which it hits enemies. Or Oracle's purge will have increased cast range, but not increased AoE, etc.
its funny how little people see of elder titan in lower ranks to the point they don't run from the giant crack about to kill them all
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;49591162]Aether Lense only affects things that are worded "range", and not "radius". That means SK burrowstrike has more cast range, but it doesn't have an increased AoE in which it hits enemies. Or Oracle's purge will have increased cast range, but not increased AoE, etc.[/QUOTE]
But what if Icefrog bothered to increase the total area by 8%?
[T]http://i.imgur.com/6zk3mNs.jpg[/T]
Does Elder Titan synergize with Spectre's Dispersion?
[QUOTE=ferrus;49591258]Does Elder Titan synergize with Spectre's Dispersion?[/QUOTE]
Dispersion returns the same damage type so most likely
[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;49590223][video=youtube;qGJe4FK-NE8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGJe4FK-NE8[/video][/QUOTE]
That German twitch chat song was one of the most cancerous things I've ever heard.
I'm tempted to play ranked random draft, but I know the queue will be a minimum of 15 minutes :v:
[QUOTE=Destroyox;49591476]That German twitch chat song was one of the most cancerous things I've ever heard.[/QUOTE]
It's glorious
How did I do in [URL="http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2099855826"]this match[/URL] as Drow?
[QUOTE=ASIC;49591863]How did I do in [URL="http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2099855826"]this match[/URL] as Drow?[/QUOTE]
no reason to get aghanims if you don't get mjollnir
bkb couldve been easily replaced by a blink, so you get better positioning to silence invoker/hit enemies
i really dislike bkb as an item for drow, just don't get jumped in, you should be in the back line waiting for the perfect moment to strike, blink in and kill people
you also got satanic way too early, get small items first, blink, shadow blade, sny, etc.
you missed the entire point of drow, which is mobility, get items that help you in that
[QUOTE=ASIC;49591863]How did I do in [URL="http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2099855826"]this match[/URL] as Drow?[/QUOTE]
Is Drow Shadow Blade not in you guys' meta?
I also personally dislike the lack of agility items but that's my opinion.
[QUOTE=Arktomys;49591896]no reason to get aghanims if you don't get mjollnir
bkb couldve been easily replaced by a blink, so you get better positioning to silence invoker/hit enemies
i really dislike bkb as an item for drow, [B]just don't get jumped in[/B], you should be in the back line waiting for the perfect moment to strike, blink in and kill people
you also got satanic way too early, get small items first, blink, shadow blade, sny, etc.
you missed the entire point of drow, which is mobility, get items that help you in that[/QUOTE]
If you mean jumped on, the fuck does that mean? I'm aware that you should stay back, as to not attract an initiation on your feeble ass, but come on. A lot of players know enough to wait for the enemy core to either step into sight or find him in the backlines. Unless you have an aegis or a hero like Dazzle (which they incidentally did have, for some time at least), people tend to wait for the appropriate moment to jump on you.
BKB helps against that. Sure they may jump you but you're going to be shooting them with crits and a satanic singing hell's bells and giving you all the health you could ever want.
Also as a Drow, ASIC, you did hardly anything :v:
I don't mean offense but your farm wasn't exactly amazing, your tower damage was pretty low alongside the hero damage.
[QUOTE=aurum481;49591224]But what if Icefrog bothered to increase the total area by 8%?[/QUOTE]
Then it would do almost literally nothing. Upheaval which has 1200 radius (fucking immense) only would get +96 more AoE, which is less than the attack range of melee heroes (128)
Or on Rubick's Telekinesis, the stun AoE is 325. It would get a bonus 26 radius, which again, is barely anything.
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