[QUOTE=Abaddabadon;49647615]From the looks of it you played your roll. Personally, I would've went for diffusal/manta earlier instead of getting vanguard. Your team already has tanky heroes like Naix, Slardar and Night Stalker. Manta would've been decent for a few of the Dire's single target spells, better than a VG at least (imo). Aside from that I'd put more failure in your Nightstalker. If he'd gone more utility items and aghs that could've created more opportunities for ganks with you haunting in, especially against a Tinker (and spotting out LC before she blinks in). Overall I just see terrible item choices from your team mates.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, okay, so maybe I should rush Diffusal after Urn instead of Vanguard, and then Manta? I feel like Radiance is actually an incredibly huge waste of gold, but it seems practically synonymous with Spectre, can you explain why? That is my first game with Spectre, just trying her out.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;49647661]What counters invoker? (Other than bkb)[/QUOTE]
Jesus.
[QUOTE=mochisushi;49647740]Hmm, okay, so maybe I should rush Diffusal after Urn instead of Vanguard, and then Manta? I feel like Radiance is actually an incredibly huge waste of gold, but it seems practically synonymous with Spectre, can you explain why? That is my first game with Spectre, just trying her out.[/QUOTE]
Radiance is great after getting diffusal/manta. If you rush radiance you won't have much stats and slower farm trying to get the components in the first place. Diffusal then manta gives you good catch potential, needed stats, and some survival with manta. After that, radiance is usually the item choice because it works so well with her ultimate. The radiance burn deals a good amount of damage against 5 people for the duration of haunt. In addition to the damage output, disrupting the use of blink daggers is great and the radiance burn is nice when you use manta style. Micro images to burn someone's ass to death, juke away while sending a fake to base, or make it more difficult for single target spells. Combine all that while using a diffusal, you can rip anyone apart.
skadi > diffusal
the more tank items the better on spectre
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except vanguard
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with radiance you should have 2x ur cs. spectres main strength is not needing to be in position to fight since you have haunt. meaning you can split push across the map free farming. you should be 6 slotted in that time with your score
real talk it seems like ur team was mostly at fault for this game but i have limited info since yasp.co parsing is down
[QUOTE=Rarara;49647781]Jesus.[/QUOTE]
Honest question I'm 2.5k and I never saw invoker played well until recently
[QUOTE=KillRay;49647827]skadi > diffusal
the more tank items the better on spectre
[editline]1st February 2016[/editline]
except vanguard
[editline]1st February 2016[/editline]
with radiance you should have 2x ur cs. spectres main strength is not needing to be in position to fight since you have haunt. meaning you can split push across the map free farming. you should be 6 slotted in that time with your score
real talk it seems like ur team was mostly at fault for this game but i have limited info since yasp.co parsing is down[/QUOTE]
Skadi swap for diffusal in late game works, but not rushing it. That'd just delay manta and radiance, unless you're playing bots and are 10-0 by 5 minutes.
[QUOTE=Abaddabadon;49647883]Skadi swap for diffusal in late game works, but not rushing it. That'd just delay manta and radiance, unless you're playing bots and are 10-0 by 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]
He means that Skadi is in general a better item for Spectre than Diffusal unless you specifically need the purge or the very early fighting power, not to rush it first item.
Alrighty then. Off I go to pick Spectre into a completely inappropiate lineup!
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;49647850]Honest question I'm 2.5k and I never saw invoker played well until recently[/QUOTE]
Juggernaut, lifestealer, anti mage, pudge ( if you go on an active invoker hunt ), techies ( :v: ) and my personal favourite, drow.
Invoker is really strong but easy to counter once you understand how he works. Basically, he has to swap around between his q, w, e to create new attacks every 20 seconds, so after he casts a spell such as tornado + what ever you need to target him down and rape him.
Also, ward the living hell out of everything. Invoker is usually the initiater so he'll try to set up team fight. Don't give him that chance.
[QUOTE=Abaddabadon;49647883]Skadi swap for diffusal in late game works, but not rushing it. That'd just delay manta and radiance, unless you're playing bots and are 10-0 by 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]
i never buy diffusal unless theres a good reason to purge stuff
omni is the one hero since manta solves silences
id rather tank up and have more dispersion damage and more hp to stay along longer for more burn then having my haunt illusions do a small amount of mana burn damage
the issue I have with vanguard is that the item is only funny?? like ive only had it on myself in hilarious stomps where i just get it so they click me for even less
where does the value lie in that item?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;49647850]Honest question I'm 2.5k and I never saw invoker played well until recently[/QUOTE]
Nyx
anti mage is his best friend and worst enemy
[QUOTE=Yahnich;49646344]rate someone who flamed everyone all game but carried you friendly[/QUOTE]
Or maybe don't commend such a person at all
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;49648066]Or maybe don't commend such a person at all[/QUOTE]
but in the super serious world of 3k you must fight tooth and nail and show em whos boss
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;49647850]Honest question I'm 2.5k and I never saw invoker played well until recently[/QUOTE]
Anything with disables I find work. Lion, Silencer, Shadow Shaman etc. It just comes down to how skilled they are, how skilled your team is and how fed Invoker is.
So fucking sick of Invoker every game. :(
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;49648949]So fucking sick of Invoker every game. :([/QUOTE]
tbh im more sick of pudge every game
invoker is okay because sure he's annoying he can also not have 6k health and a year long disable
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChbNByMTjZnnqJAMPkvD_vg/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0"]what the hell did I just find[/URL]
Void's new cooldown lock would really screw over Invoker wouldn't it?
Had a terrible game a few days ago.
No-one else on my team had more than 1 kill.
Only good thing that happened was being fed by Pudge and CM
[video=youtube;8LugvMUysm4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LugvMUysm4[/video]
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;49650981]that's a double edged sword since invo could easily counter chrono with tornado/roast your teammates while they're stuck in it.[/QUOTE]
wow. seems like the solution to that is for void to not chrono his teamates. seems hard though
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;49650981]that's a double edged sword since invo could easily counter chrono with tornado/roast your teammates while they're stuck in it.[/QUOTE]
In my imaginary scenario Void would be seeking out Invoker himself and so ideally he would be inside any Chronospheres that are created
Hey guys, I'm really determined to actually finish an item set for Dota and I think I've improved and learned a bunch. But Omniknight's color palette is so strange with all that white that I'm not sure if my original color scheme is good:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hMYd2CZ.png[/IMG]
A was the original color scheme I went with based mainly on his cape but it seems a little too red and yellow for him, or maybe it doesn't? Which of these looks the best or any suggestions?
[QUOTE=KillRay;49647630][vid]http://webm.host/e620b/vid.webm[/vid]
in which the cancer is punished for its hubris[/QUOTE]
[vid]http://puu.sh/mRH5h/af7f1f3de0.webm[/vid]
Okay, been a WHILE since i played this. Ended up leaving it and selling off all my inventory in a salt-fueled fireball.
But now i've got the urge to get back into it. Any major changes i need to be alerted to?
[QUOTE=Ross_C;49651086]Hey guys, I'm really determined to actually finish an item set for Dota and I think I've improved and learned a bunch. But Omniknight's color palette is so strange with all that white that I'm not sure if my original color scheme is good:
-pictures-
A was the original color scheme I went with based mainly on his cape but it seems a little too red and yellow for him, or maybe it doesn't? Which of these looks the best or any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
I like E the best.
Would it be possible to see F but with the red part colored gold?
[video=youtube;rCPeoH66Sps]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCPeoH66Sps[/video]
A beautiful flower.
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