you know whats the sad part some one stole RoTKs keys to his freakin Maserati
their is liereally some one out there going
"EleGiggle thanks for the maserati LGD fangays EleGiggle"
OD just needs the rate at which he steals int from orb tweaked
other than that hes still the same exp/lvl dependent squishy easily gankable mid
[QUOTE=ASIC;49884427]If it past like 20 minutes should you still get radiance on spectre?[/QUOTE]
If you don't have one by 25-29 mins max you're failing your role as the hard carry and probably going to lose
How do I play Techies in the current meta and being nerfed as fuck?
PS: "You don't" is old and crappy stuff for guys that try being funny, don't be those guys.
[QUOTE=Petachepas;49884691]How do I play Techies in the current meta and being nerfed as fuck?
PS: "You don't" is old and crappy stuff for guys that try being funny, don't be those guys.[/QUOTE]
Your red mines aren't good for pushing waves, so Aui style split push techies isn't good anymore. His offlane is much weaker because of it too. It's best still if you offlane with a partner and rely on suicide for pressuring until you get up to green mines. I think arcanes aghs is the best build to have a game presence
[QUOTE=fhASSA;49884543]tweet
Fucking hell.[/QUOTE]
[I]They just fucked with the wrong Weeaboo.[/I]
Eternal Envy is
Machet[B]EE[/B]
[QUOTE=laharlsblade;49884617]But he's just asking a question? At least he doesn't pretend like he's hot shit like half the rest of the thread. Besides I don't remember you having a particularly impressive mmr[/QUOTE]
Yeah 3.1 is also ass. After falling from 3.5 and being stuck in this 400 bracket loop I gave up.
But that's all irrelevant, you'd have to be under some kind of rock not to know what OD's been up to right now.
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;49884781]Yeah 3.1 is also ass. After falling from 3.5 and being stuck in this 400 bracket loop I gave up.
But that's all irrelevant, you'd have to be under some kind of rock not to know what OD's been up to right now.[/QUOTE]
being snarky about it is a cunt move though, just answer the question like a normal person?
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;49884781]Yeah 3.1 is also ass. After falling from 3.5 and being stuck in this 400 bracket loop I gave up.
But that's all irrelevant, you'd have to be under some kind of rock not to know what OD's been up to right now.[/QUOTE]
When u only see bad players you can't really tell how good a hero is
ODS pick rate in lower brackets isn't even as high as necro or SB it's not like he's in every game
[editline]7th March 2016[/editline]
Honestly there's like 5 people in this thread good enough to flame others
are people crying for slark nerfs now?
why does anything remotely good at killing need to be nerfed? same kind of shit killed tinker and storm, who was arguably the most fun dota 2 hero
I hate how the Tinker nerf stealth nerfed Morphling. Storm can stay in the grave though.
if you don't believe that tinker and storm needed a nerf, u must have been hibernating through the period that got them nerfed
i honestly can't believe that anyone would defend the tinker weeks/months
hey guys do you remember when you were playing a support in a game with a tinker, and you got insta killed every single fight, and basically whenever you strayed out of base
and the only consolation that anyone could offer you was "just stop him from farming up the items bro"
Any meta with tinker or doom is the worst meta
[QUOTE=Clovis;49884194]yeah, kill dead the hero ive seen played in one match since he came out[/QUOTE]
You don't need Rapiers to be viable on Arc Warden, it's just that Rapiers allow for INSANE push/kill potential at minimal risk since he can just stand in the fucking fountain.
Storm is still a very strong late game hero, basically his late game is not affected by nerfs the problem is getting there
storm has an awful laneing stage, his hes not a good farmer now with magic resists on neutrals and cant flash farm anyway with high mana cost on remnant, still easily gankable pre 6
and still easily countered by silences and stuff
which is a pity because hes still a great counter to NP but overall bad in this 5 man meta where you need to be active sooner but storm cannot get active he needs his bottle he needs a blood stone with a good chunk of charges
but late game storm preforms just as well as he did before
[QUOTE=Davoc;49884891]are people crying for slark nerfs now?
why does anything remotely good at killing need to be nerfed? same kind of shit killed tinker and storm, who was arguably the most fun dota 2 hero[/QUOTE]
Easy:
1) Got killed by hero X? If yes, continue. If not, go to step 4.
2) Bitch about it but keep playing. Do you keep getting killed by the same hero? If yes, continue. If not, go to step 4.
3) Call the hero OP. Proceed to throw game if you're a little bitch. If not, continue.
4) Did you lose the game? Blame it on an OP hero and call for a nerf. If not, continue.
5) You won the game! Proceed to step 6!
6) You queue up for another game. Go back to step 1.
Any one here want some Chinese fanatic kicking era style drama? I will just quote the translated posts:
[QUOTE]Fans are confused that sylar is for sell after the major, for he actually acts well. Ruru, CEO of LGD, founder of CDEC, who is called "empress dowager" in china, says today leaving lgd is sylar's own will. And she also in private asks sylar to admit his willing to leave. That enrages sylar, so he wrote a long article to accuse ruru "heartless". he says he has to leave because maybe wants aggresif to be his carry, so they give up sylar.
UPDATING Ruru responds to sylar's article. She says she understands sylar's negtive attitude but she did nothing wrong. According to ruru, sylar is disappointed because of the salary so he refused to continue the contract with LGD and asked to leave before the shanghai major (sylar says he wanted to leave once, but since the team atmisphere got positive afterward, he began to discuss about staying again) ruru said lgd offers a one million yuar per year contract for sylar, as much as MMY, but sylar thinks he deserves more.
Many Chinese fans support sylar for his hardworking and ruru's bad reputation. But also someone says it's nothing wrong with lgd to put the club's interest first.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Yep. Drama in China now every Chinese fan is calling out Ruru. Sylar has written a statement like OP said and I'm trying to translate it.
Edit: I nearly gave up halfway because I didn't fully understand any of the contract signing jargon. I finished it anyway since I think I got 80% right. Unfortunately, I understand contract signings about as much as Ramzes666.
Source
Do you have a heart?
"I’ll start from the moment TI4 was over. At that time, I left VG. There was a couple of teams that contacted me, but Ruru showed the most sincerity, contacting me many times to talk to me face-to-face. At that time, LGD only had Yao. That day when I was in Seattle after losing the grand finals, I talked to Yao and Xiao8. That year I spent with VG, I experienced the loss I suffered at TI3, and the unbreakable connection it had with me. But I have to clarify, at that time I did not leave the team of my own will.
Coming on to LGD, at the contract signing, Ruru expressed her wish for MMY and I to sign a 2-year contract. But we were both old veterans, each year we spent was a year lost. A two year contract to us.. The pressure was simply too much. Ruru said that if we were to sign for 1-year, and we were to transfer immediately after TI was over, she wouldn’t be able to take back the transfer costs. Under these circumstances, MMY and I decided to give in. The final agreement was, we would each give six-month contracts to the organization, preventing them from losing the transfer costs should we change teams after TI. But there was one condition in our contracts, in the event our contracts were renewed after TI, we were to be given the signing fee upfront, and not when our contract ended.
One year after TI4, the money paid for streaming shot up more than it did in previous years. Before I went to LGD, a friend told me to put one term in our contracts: A player should have the right to stream individually. I laughed and brushed the matter off, and signed the contract right away. At that time Douyu contacted me about streaming. As a player, I chose to ask the organization. Ruru’s reply to me was, “Our organization is with Zhanqi, you cannot go.”. Because I had only recently returned to LGD, I felt that this matter wasn’t worth fighting over. After all, winning tournaments was more important. When other players was increasing their value by streaming, I had nothing to do with streaming. As for the period of time where I streamed at Zhanqi intermittently, it was a task given out to us by LGD after the Chinese New Year. We were quite close to TI at that time. Every single day of practice was valuable to us, so I was too distracted to stream. This is the reason why everyone asked me “Why don’t you stream?”.
We came back to China after TI5. Xiao8 and Yao chose to take a break from Dota. When it came to finding new players, I expressed that of the three of us left, none of us knew a lot about drafting. We needed an experienced drafter, so I recommended XB*. My teammates agreed with me. At that time, XB was trying to make his decision between Newbee, EHOME2, and us. I tried to persuade XB to choose LGD. XB was talked about a lot on the forums. Hm.. I was also a sincere person. I went over to the forums and hyped up the talks. I also had a very good relationship with XB. Finally, he decided on LGD.
At that time, I talked to Ruru and the matter of contract renewal. At that time, we had agreed that once TI was over we would renew our contracts, which was why MMY and I gave six months’ worth. Ruru’s answer was “lol just renewed the contract, our expenditure cannot be focused on 1-2 months. This was how the matter was resolved. During that period of time, our results were pitiful. The morale within our team was also very low. We had frequent arguments after tournaments. When we were having one of our practice sessions for the Shanghai Major, XB and I had a serious fight. I felt so helpless at that time. Thoughts of retirement started clouding my mind. But in the face of the Major, I couldn’t just leave the team. I spoke to the team manager, and told her to find someone to replace me after the tournament. I couldn’t play anymore. It was also why I would retire if we didn’t qualify for the Shanghai Major.
I don’t know if it was because I wanted to play the qualifiers, or because Xiao8 talked about the possibility of me retiring on his stream, but every player was very serious. Morale was high. We did especially well in both practice and competitive games. The new patch also felt like it was made for me. At that time, the organization talked to me about a contract renewal. I told them about my conditions, and the organization indicated that they could not accept my terms. This matter was pushed aside until this moment. I gave up 6 months’ worth of my contract, but you couldn’t do what you had promised me.
Shanghai Major had ended. Our manager asked if I still wanted to continue playing. I told her if the players were okay, I could still play. I also recommended a couple of players. After all that, I went home. The second day, Maybe expressed a wish to play with Aggressif, and asked me if I was willing to form another team. At that time, I naively believed I would remain at LGD. I only realized afterwards that I was arranged to go to CDEC.
Everything I did with LGD, I did it because I wanted the team to do better, to walk further. When I was still at a dilemma, you (referring to Ruru), and the manager went to Weibo and explained that it was I who wanted to leave. You even took the six-month contract I gifted to you, and started acting righteous on Weibo. I thank you for letting me out of these 10+ days I have left on my contract, and for being considerate of losses I suffered when I originally left the team. I didn’t want to talk about this matter too blatantly, so I refrained from explaining publicly. I even told the manager to delete the post on Weibo. Today, you contacted me and tried to convince me to explain things on the organization’s behalf. You even told me to search my feelings and tell the truth. I really want to ask you, Ruru, do you have this thing called a conscience?"
*XB is ROTK.
One more. This is an exchange between Ruru and Sylar and was much easier to translate.
Ruru: What did you mean by submitting that Weibo post? Did you remember your conscience when you said those things?
Ruru: The reason we recruited Rotk was because you so strongly requested it. We also kept looking for you to renew the contract.
Sylar: ruru...
Sylar: You want me to search my feelings?
Sylar: You should go do some self-reflection before you come talk to me.
Thanks to /u/ergsws_2 for translating the others.
Edit: China's fanbase really showing themselves now. Already 5.2K replies to Sylar's post. It's only been two hours. Sadly for LGD, most of them are taking Sylar's side.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]First of all Ruru is generally known as the manager behind LGD and CDEC which had reasonable results at the last TI, which led to some circlejerking about Ruru being great and all that in the dota2 communities i.e tieba.
Warning: Giant wall of text inc.
Whilst this is true to a degree there're some shady shit behind the chinese scene which is directly linked to her. Remember Wings(#newblood)? the team that finished 4th place at WCA(lel) which consists of iceice and a few others gets almost no practices with T1 teams because they were not a part of ACE, and Ruru being a high-level management in the ACE certainly had a role in this.
Ruru is also well known for her "messy" private life in the pro doto scene in China (was all over sgamer when she tried to take them on, srsly whoever wanting to start a flame war with sgamer has problems u'll get doxxed and shit), which brought her a pretty bad reputation as she had relationships with many pro players and a few influential figures in the scene who shall remain unnamed. Sylar threatened to expose this but deleted the threatening post almost straight after he posted it. And I don't think it would be appropriate to discuss the details here either but some of the relationships did contribute directly in this drama about signing bouns and stuff. Now for the dark tinfoil shit how Ruru may have manipulated some of the matches in the scene. Many of you might not know, that vpgame, the betting website is owned by Ruru the empress herself. Yes, Ruru, the manager of LGD and CDEC, who is also the CEO of one of the largest dota2 betting site, it's like the owner of Chelsea owning one of the main Premier League's betting sites. Like WTF how is that even allowed?
Despite the face that there are no direct evidence leading to the conspiracy but this shouldn't be allowed in the first place imo.
Although some zealous shitposters at tieba and sgamer has came up with the theory that the games has been manipulated through the weibo posts by Cty and Sylar from days ago (the pre-drama post Sylar made which resulted in Ruru questioning him starting this whole drama). Sylar in his weibo post stated that : "I am not worthy of the pro-gamer title today." while Cty tried to meme by saying :" Did I bet on games? You will find out from my next post." (which started some one sided flame from the Chinese dotes community calling him an unprofessional retard) these posts do have some sort of matchfixing connotation but this theory is a bit far-fetched imo although it does have some point but many people were buying this and were expecting Sylar to expose it. Tbh if this is true and Sylar exposed it, CN dota scene might actually be kill lol, the amount of people involved would be quite large.
Tl;dr Ruru who made CDEC and managed LGD might not be as great as many percieved, she also owns vpgames which is one of the largest betting site for dota2. Also how CN dota is dying as it is plagued with betting and streaming.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Davoc;49884891]are people crying for slark nerfs now?
why does anything remotely good at killing need to be nerfed? same kind of shit killed tinker and storm, who was arguably the most fun dota 2 hero[/QUOTE]
Slark has always needed a damn nerf imo.
At least to his dark pact. It's kind of bullshit that it purges him a fuckload of times in a row.
And fuck tinker and storm.
Storm was in ever.single.game, always the same "ZZZZZZZZZAP BZBZBZBZBZB *dead*" shit, and tinker was "spam rockets for +1 kill min" at the best of chances, which doesn't counts him barreling down a lane at the speed of sound shooting rockets and lasers to ultimately going blink dagon ethereal. Good god how fucking annoying it was to see him blink to you and die in 1 second flat...
Invoker is the new pick bitch though. In like 15 games, I saw him picked 10 times. Always shooting "goddamn everything" at anyone for the kills, jesus fuck...
Slark doesn't need a nerf
Slark doesn't need a nerf
Slark doesn't need a nerf
Will you get it in your fucking heads you whiners?
Slark is fine
[QUOTE=Clovis;49886905]you seem quite salty[/QUOTE]
Hardly.
Maybe back when tinker was a problem since he was literaly like playing a game with instagib weapons in a map full of corners.
Storm and invoker end up not being that big of a problem, because as long as you got a team that actually does stuff, silencer's ulti and spells in general just block nukers and the like really easily.
It's just really boring to see the same exact picks every game, which means you'll probably pick something that counters it, aka the same thing over and over again, because as usual, everyone wants to carry and everyone picks carries first...
I really hate slark's purge though.
I approve of disabling items that drop on death on Arc Warden because it means it will become apparent how kinda mediocre the base hero is and then I can play my favourite hero in a fun way and still be able to win reliably
[editline]7th March 2016[/editline]
He's designed to be build versatility: the hero, but after all the nerfs to the base hero he has only one actually viable build lol
[QUOTE=devon_wargod;49887009]I approve of disabling items that drop on death on Arc Warden because it means it will become apparent how kinda mediocre the base hero is and then I can play my favourite hero in a fun way and still be able to win reliably
[editline]7th March 2016[/editline]
He's designed to be build versatility: the hero, but after all the nerfs to the base hero he has only one actually viable build lol[/QUOTE]
It'd be pretty shitty if you were an Arc Warden, you just killed the guy with the gem/rapier, you can't pick it up, and then the enemy just takes it back while your team spam pings you asking why you didn't pick it up.
so i'm back to dota after a long, almost 4 year gap of not playing
i've read up on what's been going on in terms of heroes and items
but can somebody just give me a quick overview of the current meta
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;49887180]so i'm back to dota after a long, almost 4 year gap of not playing
i've read up on what's been going on in terms of heroes and items
but can somebody just give me a quick overview of the current meta[/QUOTE]
Get as many kills as you can and push hard and win by 30 min (usually)
[QUOTE=Godzillan;49887169]It'd be pretty shitty if you were an Arc Warden, you just killed the guy with the gem/rapier, you can't pick it up, and then the enemy just takes it back while your team spam pings you asking why you didn't pick it up.[/QUOTE]
I mean muting it on the clone. Obviously if the main Arc Warden wants to run around with his would-be-no-natural-value for those items then he can go right ahead, but when most people complain about Arc Warden, they complain about the Rapier thing, which does seem like inherently flawed design. (And in the case of Gem, well, having consistent rules is never a bad idea.)
