Fallout 4 V24: You're Tied to This Thread Kid, Your Energy - Games

[QUOTE=Combine 177;49502602][sp]You blew up BOS, you think he wouldn't be emotionally dead?[/sp] [editline]10th January 2016[/editline] And yeah it isn't bug.[/QUOTE] Strange though because he still gives me the confidence talk to romance him again from time to time Maybe the confidence dropped to the bottom?

[QUOTE=lol user;49502762]Strange though because he still gives me the confidence talk to romance him again from time to time Maybe the confidence dropped to the bottom?[/QUOTE] He would be hostile to you if you didn't do the personal quest, now he is just living hat stand. Also you can't make him work even by editing the affinity value. [editline]10th January 2016[/editline] This is why you punch [sp]Shaun[/sp] in the dick and do Minutemen ending.

[QUOTE=Combine 177;49502775]He would be hostile to you if you didn't do the personal quest, now he is just living hat stand. Also you can't make him work even by editing the affinity value. [editline]10th January 2016[/editline] This is why you punch [sp]Shaun[/sp] in the dick and do Minutemen ending.[/QUOTE] I believe there was mods that edit this? If he's gonna be a useless piece of garbage atleast I wanna move him to another settlement [editline]10th January 2016[/editline] [video]https://youtu.be/qGXXFC0emkU[/video]

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49502593]You do realize the only reason it's not getting goty left and right is because bethesda knows the GOTY label is as tacky[/QUOTE] Which is why Bethesda has NEVER released a GOTY Edition of one of their games.

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;49502935]Which is why Bethesda has NEVER released a GOTY Edition of one of their games.[/QUOTE] He never said that bethesda never named their special all-in-one editions "GOTY editions". He said that they're moving away from using GOTY for their all-in-one editions.

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;49502935]Which is why Bethesda has NEVER released a GOTY Edition of one of their games.[/QUOTE] morrowind, oblivion and fallout 3 would like to have a word with you. here, have some proof [url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/22370/[/url] [url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/22330/[/url] [url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/22320/[/url]

idk why but i lost interest in this game kinda quickly after buying it :///

I feel like they're adding mod support for consoles because Bethesda knows their games don't last long without mods

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49502730]Every time Bethesda releases a game, there's always people who criticize it with the same three lines : - It's not as good as a previous installment of the series. - It's not a good/true [franchise title here] game and/or RPG. - It's a good game but not a good [franchise title here] game. Even morrowind had the same kind of criticism with people calling it not daggerfall. They can't escape it. People are more willing to compare Bethesda's games to previous installments (even if they are from other devs) than evaluate them for what they are, and when they evaluate them for what they are.[/QUOTE] I don’t understand this “woe is bethseda” narrative you’re trying to construct. You’re basically addressing a lot of huge, blanket complaints about their games and insisting it’s all part of some unfair criticism cycle that is unique to Bethesda. People are willing to compare bethesda games to previous titles and installments of that franchise just as much as they’re willing to evaluate them for what they are. Do you really think Bethesda is the only company to receive complaints about their games not being true to the franchise, or a significant step up from the previous titles? Fuck no. Do you really think Bethesda is even especially notable for these complaints? Fuck. No. Stop insisting that people aren’t “evaluating fallout 4” on its own terms. Just because some of the complaints about f4 include criticism that it’s basically not even trying to be fallout anymore doesn’t mean that they’re invalid because “that’s not what bethseda is trying to do with this one”.

[QUOTE=LolzMan1325;49503092]I feel like they're adding mod support for consoles because Bethesda knows their games don't last long without mods[/QUOTE] it prevents people from buying preowned copies from people who sold their copies of the game. it's actually pretty smart having the promise of mods for consoles. It's bound to make them lots more money if it works.

[QUOTE=LolzMan1325;49503092]I feel like they're adding mod support for consoles because Bethesda knows their games don't last long without mods[/QUOTE] Bethseda games last a fine amount of time without mods, especially on the console market. I still know people who are playing Skyrim enthusiastically today. I'd personally say that console modding has more to do with an attempted parity with the PC versions, or as ClarkWasHere said, a way to control copies of the game more.

[QUOTE=Pops;49503024]morrowind, oblivion and fallout 3 would like to have a word with you. here, have some proof [url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/22370/[/url] [url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/22330/[/url] [url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/22320/[/url][/QUOTE] (that's the joke, he's making fun of ganerumo)

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;49503117]I still know people who are playing Skyrim enthusiastically today. [/QUOTE] i still play morrowind unmodded. mainly because every time i try to install that overhaul mod the game refuses to work, but yeah.

The point is that when FO3 came out, people were very vocally opposed because it wasn't FO2-2; it was nothing like the previous game, so many diehard fans rejected it as a spinoff at first. Then NV hit and it initially got panned HARD for being a buggy and sometimes unplayable mess. Both times people eventually came around. Now FO4 is getting the same treatment FO3 did, because it isn't NV-2. Fan reception of Bethesda's games tends to run in a consistent "I hate it, nevermind I loved it all along" loop.

[QUOTE=Pops;49503024]morrowind, oblivion and fallout 3 would like to have a word with you. here, have some proof [url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/22370/[/url] [url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/22330/[/url] [url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/22320/[/url][/QUOTE] I thought Tard was being sarcastic.

[QUOTE=Everything;49503164]The point is that when FO3 came out, people were very vocally opposed because it wasn't FO2-2; it was nothing like the previous game, so many diehard fans rejected it as a spinoff at first. Then NV hit and it initially got panned HARD for being a buggy and sometimes unplayable mess. Both times people eventually came around. Now FO4 is getting the same treatment FO3 did, because it isn't NV-2.[/QUOTE] i can't speak for anyone else but myself my first beth rpg was oblivion. i played the rest of the modern beth games in the following order: fo3, nv - then [FO1, FO2] - then skyrim, morrowind, fo4. i'm generally pretty pleased completely with beth rpgs. i think they fill a unique spot in AAA videogames that others cannot and only a few non-AAA titles do. i have few criticisms of oblivion/morrowind/skyrim and fo3/nv. there are some for each, but they're not really enough to drag anything down too intensely. most of the criticisms that other people have are things that I feel as well. voiced protag, dialogue camera, restrictive dialogue, little to no quest variety, little "life" to the world, etc etc etc. other criticisms exist but i'm not going to go into an exhaustive list. basically what im saying is i'm a bit of a beth fanboy, like pretty much all of their rpgs, and care little for some of the faults (in fact if i have any criticisms it's usually on the way morrowind handled some things), but even i acknowledge the faults with fo4. i don't think that fo4 is being criticised because it doesn't feel exactly like previous installments. I think that the things that were ironed out truly did make the experience a little less unique.

[QUOTE=Pops;49503161]i still play morrowind unmodded. mainly because every time i try to install that overhaul mod the game refuses to work, but yeah.[/QUOTE] I can count the mods I've downloaded for Morrowind on one hand, and I still love playing it to this day.

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;49502935]Which is why Bethesda has NEVER released a GOTY Edition of one of their games.[/QUOTE] Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3. Then they realized it was fucking stupid and moved on to more original names than just GOTY, which was my point originally - Bethesda's marketing team got over the whole GOTY EDITION BEST GAME OF THE CENTURY thing that's typically backed by pointless kneejerk awards from incompetent journalists. GOTY means literally nothing, [url=http://www.4colorrebellion.com/wp-content/gallery/arkhamcity/cover.jpg]and marketing a game with GOTY/awards[/url] is slowly falling out of fashion because the tackiness has shown through.

I'm blind and can't find the mod but can someone link to that mod where you can use any gun mod on any gun?

[QUOTE=WebMD;49503077]idk why but i lost interest in this game kinda quickly after buying it :///[/QUOTE] Same, I was extremely excited and enjoyed the game but just don't feel like there's as much a focus on exploration and extensive content in the wasteland this time around. Having only 5 Vaults, none of which are very interesting, was a huge disappointment and overall I feel like the game doesn't offer you very much to explore and discover compared to Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Maybe I'm just not as into these games as I once was?

[QUOTE=srobins;49503407]Same, I was extremely excited and enjoyed the game but just don't feel like there's as much a focus on exploration and extensive content in the wasteland this time around. Having only 5 Vaults, none of which are very interesting, was a huge disappointment and overall I feel like the game doesn't offer you very much to explore and discover compared to Fallout 3 and New Vegas. [B]Maybe I'm just not as into these games as I once was?[/B][/QUOTE] That's also an important factor that people tend to forget. Also Fallout 3 and New Vegas both had 6 vaults. Fallout 4 only has one less.

[QUOTE=nomad1;49503405]I'm blind and can't find the mod but can someone link to that mod where you can use any gun mod on any gun?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4515/?[/url] I just googled "any mod any gun" and that was the first result.

So i finally thought of a reason to do a second play through: so i can do all of the quests that outright fucking broke the first time around, locking me out of them. Ive loosely based my character on Jacket from Hotline Miami, and im going to see how long I can use only the jacket and baseball-bat combo before I get bored. [t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/543048106417565561/858C1DDB3493BC5F03A9C1E7BC3FD68E9BBA8D29/[/t] Play through 2: wrong number.

To clarify, my point isn't that fallout 4 is perfect, or that bethesda deserves inconditional praise. The game has issues, glaring ones and minor ones, but these issues don't undermine the quality of the title enough to make it unplayable or not worth the money or anything of the sort. People are being overly pessimistic about the game. They were already pessimistic about some of the design decisions before the game was out and it only got worse since then. The issue that I have is that some of the criticism made on the game is closer to kneejerk bandwagon reactions than actual criticism. There's always games like that which are shredded originally and then people get a more moderate view on them over time. I don't think Fallout 4 is perfect, but I think its qualities widely outweigh its problems, in the same light as Oblivion and Morrowind and Skyrim and Fallout 3 and New Vegas and all of those games that people on this thread tend to like. Skyrim's by far the weakest game Bethesda has released in twenty years and I still managed to get nearly 900 hours out of it. Maybe Bethesda didn't drop the ball as hard as you would like to think.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49503439]That's also an important factor that people tend to forget. Also Fallout 3 and New Vegas both had 6 vaults. Fallout 4 only has one less.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and Fallout 1/2 each had four. [editline]10th January 2016[/editline] Are there any leather jackets with only one sleeve in 3/NV/4? If not, that's a big problem. BB guns and questionable jackets, that's where it's at.

3 has Leather Armor. New Vegas has the Lightweight Leather Armor, which is the same but has the metal bits removed so it's practically just a leather jacket. 4 has Maccready's outfit.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49503518]To clarify, my point isn't that fallout 4 is perfect, or that bethesda deserves inconditional praise. The game has issues, glaring ones and minor ones, but these issues don't undermine the quality of the title enough to make it unplayable or not worth the money or anything of the sort. [/QUOTE] The thing is, absolutely no one at all is calling it unplayable. Or not worth the money. The issues [I]do[/I] undermine the quality of the title by a huge margin, but no one is calling Fallout 4 unplayable. Also you ended the post with "Maybe Bethesda didn't drop the ball as hard as you would like to think." This is some more 'Bethesda is a victim' shit and you're making it out like everyones trying to pick apart Fallout 4 and [I]make it[/I] a bad game. No one is doing that. All the faults you hear everyone complaining about are legitimate faults people have found within the game and not "overly pessimistic" views. No one, unless you go looking for it, is intentionally trying to retroactively degrade the quality of the game with criticism.

People literally called the game not worth the money [I]last page[/I] when someone asked if the game was worth it and they told him to buy it on sale - meaning it's [I]not worth the money.[/I] Also Rudy's been complaining about the game for weeks now so there definitely are people out there who are tearing the game a new asshole.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49503599]People literally called the game not worth the money [I]last page[/I] when someone asked if the game was worth it and they told him to buy it on sale - meaning it's [I]not worth the money.[/I] Also Rudy's been complaining about the game for weeks now so there definitely are people out there who are tearing the game a new asshole.[/QUOTE] ???? One person said wait until a sale and another person just flat out doesn't like the game, so suddenly Bethesda is a poor company who can't stop being harassed by unfair critics? Yeah, no.

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;49503616]???? One person said wait until a sale and another person just flat out doesn't like the game, so suddenly Bethesda is a poor company who can't stop being harassed by unfair critics? Yeah, no.[/QUOTE] You said nobody claimed the game was not worth the money. [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1497918&p=49502335&viewfull=1#post49502335]Thirty-five people[/url] have rated this post in favor of buying it on sale. That means people did claim the game was not worth the money, [I]because they're telling someone to buy it at a cheaper price.[/I You're ignoring my points and jumping the gun.