Fallout 4 V24: You're Tied to This Thread Kid, Your Energy - Games

[QUOTE=Ruh-roh;49538767]...that's it?[/QUOTE] What do you mean "that's it?" Do you want a first-party confirmation? An interview with the team explaining why? Todd Howard mailing it in a letter to your house? They published the game and all accompanying materials in an expressly official manner, and have not retconned or backpedaled on any elements of the game's story since.

[QUOTE=Everything;49538791]What do you mean "that's it?" Do you want a first-party confirmation? An interview with the team explaining why? Todd Howard mailing it in a letter to your house? They published the game and all accompanying materials in an expressly official manner, and have not retconned or backpedaled on any elements of the game since.[/QUOTE] No, i want more than a wikipedia link that i can edit and post about how radscorpions are the new rulers of the wasteland because i like them and i have 10 minutes to spare editing the page. Specially about which ending is canon, there's nothing about it on the link you provided. "They published the game so NCR ending is canon", i don't know what kind of logic leaps you took to reach this conclusion but you need more than that to prove your headcanon to anyone else.

[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;49538790]You know. It is kinda funny how much your character seems like a huge ass deal in these games. Yet you hardly hear anything about the courier or lone wanderer. Not even the Brotherhood references the person that helped them get the water purifier fully operational.[/QUOTE] That's because the brotherhood are pompous dongers. Or because the canon ending is that he made a BoS member die to activate it anyway...

[QUOTE=Ruh-roh;49538798]No, i want more than a wikipedia link that i can edit and post about how radscorpions are the new rulers of the wasteland because i like them and i have 10 minutes to spare editing the page. Specially about which ending is canon, there's nothing about it on the link you provided. "They published the game so NCR ending is canon", i don't know what kind of logic leaps you took to reach this conclusion but you need more than that to prove your headcanon to anyone else.[/QUOTE] I'm not linking the two. I said two separate statements; ASKING if the NCR ending was canon (I don't know for sure, but it seems the most logical), and saying NV itself is canon. The only other thing I said was that true independence isn't canon, which I don't think anyone here can sensibly deny.

[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;49538790]You know. It is kinda funny how much your character seems like a huge ass deal in these games. Yet you hardly hear anything about the courier or lone wanderer. Not even the Brotherhood references the person that helped them get the water purifier fully operational.[/QUOTE] The vault dweller and the chosen one are mentioned enough times No reason to talk about the Courier in 4, though the lone wanderer not being mentioned is a bit strange, specially because many people in the game actually met him

Maxson even met him when he was a child. I know he is a child and might have forgotten. But how could you forget a guy I am pretty sure the BOS talked non-stop about.

[QUOTE=Kenneth;49538769]I thought it was a bit jarring how X6 had absolutely no reaction to the [sp]Institute being destroyed[/sp] "You'll make a great leader" .. of what though[/QUOTE] It's a bug. He's supposed to be hostile.

[QUOTE=Everything;49538508]I feel like they intended the brotherhood ending to be the canon one, and they have plans for Maxson later. Imagine if he and the BoS became the major villains of a future game.[/QUOTE] [url=http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Extreme#Story]And then maybe afterwards we'll go on a rampage across Canada, Russia and Mongolia to get to China and beat those commie sons of bitches once and for all[/url]

[QUOTE=elowin;49538863][url=http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Extreme#Story]And then maybe afterwards we'll go on a rampage across Canada, Russia and Mongolia to get to China and beat those commie sons of bitches once and for all[/url][/QUOTE] Oh thank god that was cancelled.

The Railroad ending bugs the hell out of me [sp]Why was it neccesary to blow up the Institute? It would've been great if you coulda used your authority as the Director to call an assembly of all the scientists into the reactor room or something, lock them in with you, and declared the place 'under new management', just simply putting a bullet in anyone that objected. Probably kill the old board of Directors to make an example, too. And while Shaun had given you a direct order to get out there and kill the RR, you coulda bluffed and said they'd abandoned their HQ, Shaun's goddamn thick, he'd buy it.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Tuskin;49538901]Oh thank god that was cancelled.[/QUOTE] It deserved to be cancelled for the name alone Interplay remained "90's AS HELL" till their end. Which probably was part of the reason they had an end to begin with.

"Robotics expert is now usable in combat " "Player can now build workbenches in their Diamond City house" Love these two changes, awesome Kinda wish the Diamond City house already had workbenches though

[QUOTE=Tuskin;49538901]Oh thank god that was cancelled.[/QUOTE] You can't deny that game would have been [i]EXTREME[/i]

[QUOTE=elowin;49538935]You can't deny that game would have been [i]EXTREMELY RETARDED[/i][/QUOTE] Yes.

[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;49538952]Yes.[/QUOTE] wow look at this dweeb welcome to loserville, population one you!

[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;49538846]Maxson even met him when he was a child. I know he is a child and might have forgotten. But how could you forget a guy I am pretty sure the BOS talked non-stop about.[/QUOTE] i get it's probably just broad strokes, but i like to imagine Maxson took credit for most of the stuff the Wanderer did, and the BoS's higher ups are actively trying to purge references to him from their databases to pump up Maxson. notice how all his crazy feats happen not too long after Fo3 when he's like twelve years old, meaning the LW could have still been in the area at the time and done the things Maxson takes credit for. and i'm pretty sure the only definite post-Fo3 mentions of him are from wastelanders who personally met him too

[QUOTE=elowin;49538969]wow look at this dweeb welcome to loserville, population one you![/QUOTE] too far

[QUOTE=elowin;49538969]wow look at this dweeb welcome to loserville, population one you![/QUOTE] Did you fall down and hit your head. I was fucking agreeing with you.

[QUOTE=Cone;49539004]i get it's probably just broad strokes, but i like to imagine Maxson took credit for most of the stuff the Wanderer did, and the BoS's higher ups are actively trying to purge references to him from their databases to pump up Maxson. notice how all his crazy feats happen not too long after Fo3 when he's like twelve years old, meaning the LW could have still been in the area at the time and done the things Maxson takes credit for. and i'm pretty sure the only definite post-Fo3 mentions of him are from wastelanders who personally met him too[/QUOTE] The first DLC for Fallout 4 is going to be the Lone Wanderer tracking Maxson down to the Commonwealth to force Maxson to tell the truth.

[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;49539163]The first DLC for Fallout 4 is going to be the Lone Wanderer tracking Maxson down to the Commonwealth to force Maxson to tell the truth.[/QUOTE] thinking about it it seems awfully convenient that Owyn and Sarah both died in quick succession to vague causes and get completely brushed over in their databases, followed by an especially timid and impressionable kid assuming control and immediately reestablishing contact with the West Coast BoS. and this kid is chosen over the prime candidate for elder, the famously huge badass who wastelanders still regularly talk about twenty years later, who is instead mysteriously purged from the Brotherhood's records and apparently nowhere to be found in the BoS' ranks or even Maxson's memory. man if you didn't like the Brotherhood before wait until you get a load of these corrupt coke can cocks

[QUOTE=Cone;49539004]i get it's probably just broad strokes, but i like to imagine Maxson took credit for most of the stuff the Wanderer did, and the BoS's higher ups are actively trying to purge references to him from their databases to pump up Maxson. notice how all his crazy feats happen not too long after Fo3 when he's like twelve years old, meaning the LW could have still been in the area at the time and done the things Maxson takes credit for. and i'm pretty sure the only definite post-Fo3 mentions of him are from wastelanders who personally met him too[/QUOTE] My thought is Maxson led a coup (potentially with the Outcasts) and overthrew Lyons and the new Brotherhood purged all of the old guard who remained loyal to Maxson. Lone Wanderer included. MacReady never mentions this because he probably never knew, having struck out for the Commonwealth long before or shortly after, and then he never knew because he was still in Little Lamplight. [editline]16th January 2016[/editline] And it's not entirely unlikely that if you do go to the Capitol Wasteland in DLC, you'll probably meet the Lone Wanderer. Let's not forget that this is now technically canon. Maybe. [IMG]http://b-gptyodne.lagrangesystems.net/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/t/xetc-figure-es-lonewanderer.jpg.pagespeed.ic.AhMhwu2mF_.webp[/IMG]

Meeting a blank state - non defined playable character from a previous game in person and interacting with him/her is bound for disaster Which is why i don't rule out the possibility of Betheda doing it

[QUOTE=Everything;49538618]Wasn't NCR the canon ending of NV, despite them being corrupt and authoritarian? The winning faction doesn't necessarily have to be one with fantastic morals.[/QUOTE] So everyone is just kind of accepting this as fact, can I have a source? Because honestly knowing the canon ending for NV would be kind of a game changer.

[QUOTE=Ruh-roh;49539253]Meeting a blank state - non defined playable character from a previous game in person and interacting with him/her is bound for disaster Which is why i don't rule out the possibility of Betheda doing it[/QUOTE] On the bright side, If they made him a companion he won't like or dislike anything you do. I think what they could do is have the game try and find a Fallout 3 save file and base the lone wanderer on the save file. If it sees the save file contains a lot of bad actions like blowing up Megaton or helping the enclave then the lone wanderer you meet will have a mix of likes and dislikes of Strong and MacCready.

[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;49539299]On the bright side, If they made him a companion he won't like or dislike anything you do.[/QUOTE] "i was looking for my dad, a middle aged guy - you will do"

[QUOTE=Ruh-roh;49539253]Meeting a blank state - non defined playable character from a previous game in person and interacting with him/her is bound for disaster Which is why i don't rule out the possibility of Betheda doing it[/QUOTE] Pokemon Gold and Silver handled it the best, where you'd meet the player character from the previous game and he was silent and the toughest trainer. on top of the tallest mountain in the region. After you've beaten 16 gyms and the elite four. It's cool.

[QUOTE=Ruh-roh;49539334]"i was looking for my dad, a middle aged guy - you will do"[/QUOTE] "I was looking for my son, an infant. At least with you I don't have to raise you. Come with me....son." [sp]*Father cries in distance.*[/sp] *Codsworth hated that*

[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;49539347] [sp]*Father cries in distance.*[/sp][/QUOTE] Good.

I tried to start playing FO4 again just got bored from forgetting what I was doing weeks ago and I cba to start a new game because that would require me to do the railroad shit again just to get the [sp]ballistic weave[/sp] and shit. I feel like locking [I]anything[/I] behind doing stuff for a faction was a shitty gameplay choice unless it specifically relates to that factions. For example: what if I think the railroad is fucking dumb and I don't want to do shit for them? Then I'll never even know the [sp]ballistic weave[/sp] is there and I'll have to live without it until another playthrough or a wiki page gets read or something. Like maybe if it's a weapon attachment that does more damage toward institute scientists or something, I can understand that, but something like [sp]ballistic weave[/sp]? That's dumb.

[QUOTE=Ruh-roh;49539253]Meeting a blank state - non defined playable character from a previous game in person and interacting with him/her is bound for disaster Which is why i don't rule out the possibility of Betheda doing it[/QUOTE] I think the best thing they could do is set it up like you're going to meet them, and that's one of the main points in the DLC, finding the Lone Wanderer, thought to be dead but rumored to be alive. Ultimately, you never do meet them, instead it's hinted that one of the various NPCs you meet (people who are quest relevant that have vague recollections of the character) may have been the real Lone Wanderer. Keep it all mysterious