Fallout 4 V24: You're Tied to This Thread Kid, Your Energy
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[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49359612]I don't recall a single moment in the series where a brain and its consciousness (not a copy or a backup or a replica, I mean the same exact consciousness) was successfully carried over to a new body. The few instances of AI and brains being involved in robotics were either extremely flawed or ended up in very blatant corruption of the individual, so it's clearly not something that works too well.
[editline]21st December 2015[/editline]
Well yeah but that's [sp]if you join the institute and stick with them, not if you join the BOS at which point you're NOT the leader and as such are subject to Maxson's own decisions[/sp][/QUOTE]
Not a new human body, but there are plenty of brains that are suspended in a condition where they can still think, communicate, feel, etc, like the dude from point lookout, the entirety of the think tank, etc
by that measure, why can't you just take that brain and put it into your synth bodies? and if you can't do that, why don't you take the brain out anyway and live forever? house did it and he kept his entire body in tact as well.
it just seems weird that, even though institute technology generally doesn't go in that direction, they seem utterly incapable of doing what a fair few people have done already, sometimes completely solo.
I have become death, destroyer of worlds
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[editline]21st December 2015[/editline]
Also, I miss having an Eyebot companion :(
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;49359681]Fair play, but that brings up another issue. The reason people are miffed is because Fallout 4 gives you nothing beyond "congratulations you won" and you don't seem to make a difference in the game world. Excluding intro and outro, New Vegas has 27 slides with a bunch of variables based on the player's actions (eg The Kings alone have 13 possible slides.) I get the feeling that if there was any sense of impact to Fallout 4's ending people wouldn't complain so much.[/QUOTE]
Yeah Fallout 4 has no ending content past the MQ and that's an actual issue. Hopefully the slides make a comeback somehow.
For "There be monsters" it would be cool if they made an expansion pack where they added [sp]Zao arriving in china and rebuilding a small part of it - play as a ghoul![/sp]
How fucking cool is my character? Gotta love it when shit clips together nicely, pretty happy with this for now.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/LcoNY49.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/b03aKnw.jpg[/t]
That's a Heavy Combat Chest, Heavy Combat Left arm, Sturdy Combat Right arm, and with invisible Combat leg parts.
[QUOTE=Crazy Knife;49357705]Two questions: where do you get the institute style building materials? I presume it's some book you read? Where do i find that?[/QUOTE]
Super late, apologies. I think someone else answered but oh well.
I use Settlement Supplies Expanded along with Home Maker Expanded Settlements, which have compatibility patches. I also use Robot Home Defense to add Protectrons and Handys to my settlements.
The outfits and such were just procured with console commands for the sake of sanity.
[QUOTE=Chilean_Wolf;49354135][img_thumb]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403434614134239690/DC6CB82174FF509E8BCD35B20A573289048F9E3A/[/img_thumb]
Why do they keep doing this?[/QUOTE]
i like how this is actually a massive crowd in fallout-scale
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;49359681]Fair play, but that brings up another issue. The reason people are miffed is because Fallout 4 gives you nothing beyond "congratulations you won" and you don't seem to make a difference in the game world. Excluding intro and outro, New Vegas has 27 slides with a bunch of variables based on the player's actions (eg The Kings alone have 13 possible slides.) I get the feeling that if there was any sense of impact to Fallout 4's ending people wouldn't complain so much.[/QUOTE]
Fallout 4 should have used ending slides. It was only a bad idea in 3 because Beth ballsed it up, but being able to play after the MQ doesn't really add anything to gameplay. If anything, it should go to a NG+.
[QUOTE=Chilean_Wolf;49354135][img_thumb]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403434614134239690/DC6CB82174FF509E8BCD35B20A573289048F9E3A/[/img_thumb]
Why do they keep doing this?[/QUOTE]
All the users who responded to you were wrong/useless, so I'll explain why.
You don't have a bar set up for them. This results in settlers standing completely still from about 10PM to 12PM before sleepy time.
As for setting up a bar, you need the rank 2 "Local Leader" perk. Or rank 1, not sure. But you need a "Bar" for them.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;49359850]All the users who responded to you were wrong/useless, so I'll explain why.
You don't have a bar set up for them. This results in settlers standing completely still from about 10PM to 12PM before sleepy time.
As for setting up a bar, you need the rank 2 "Local Leader" perk. Or rank 1, not sure. But you need a "Bar" for them.[/QUOTE]
I have a bar and even still they just stand in that exact same area. I have plenty of spots for them to sit near the bar as well.
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[sp]I didn't like Fallout 4[/sp]
[media]https://twitter.com/DogtoothCG/status/678794891929849856[/media]
Hnnng, I love it.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;49359764]How fucking cool is my character? Gotta love it when shit clips together nicely, pretty happy with this for now.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/LcoNY49.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/b03aKnw.jpg[/t]
That's a Heavy Combat Chest, Heavy Combat Left arm, Sturdy Combat Right arm, and with invisible Combat leg parts.[/QUOTE]
what's the outfit?
[QUOTE=eggman249;49359978][media]https://twitter.com/DogtoothCG/status/678794891929849856[/media]
Hnnng, I love it.[/QUOTE]
Hancock: "I'll be counting the days"
[QUOTE=eggman249;49359978]Awesome lookin Ranger
Hnnng, I love it.[/QUOTE]
HACR on the gauntlet. Anybody know what that stands for? I'd guess "something something California republic", but Idk.
[QUOTE=overwatch pvt;49360039]HACR on the gauntlet. Anybody know what that stands for? I'd guess "something something California republic", but Idk.[/QUOTE]
11 ACR, but still not clue.
[QUOTE=overwatch pvt;49360039]HACR on the gauntlet. Anybody know what that stands for? I'd guess "something something California republic", but Idk.[/QUOTE]
It's "11ACR" for the 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment, the only "known" group to have access to the "Elite" Riot gear. On the shoulder that you can't see, there is some other markings in reference to it as well.
[QUOTE=lol user;49359735]I have become death, destroyer of worlds
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/P39snJm.png[/IMG]
[editline]21st December 2015[/editline]
Also, I miss having an Eyebot companion :([/QUOTE]
Wait how does that work? I thought ghouls were healed by radiation...
[editline]21st December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=overwatch pvt;49360039]HACR on the gauntlet. Anybody know what that stands for? I'd guess "something something California republic", but Idk.[/QUOTE]
The ranger outfits were some form of top notch pre war riot gear, so some kind of police markings maybe?
Am I the only one who think the Institute is the good guy? I wish Piper and Nick Valentine would stop judging me for it
[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;49359723]Not a new human body, but there are plenty of brains that are suspended in a condition where they can still think, communicate, feel, etc, like the dude from point lookout, the entirety of the think tank, etc
by that measure, why can't you just take that brain and put it into your synth bodies? and if you can't do that, why don't you take the brain out anyway and live forever? house did it and he kept his entire body in tact as well.
it just seems weird that, even though institute technology generally doesn't go in that direction, they seem utterly incapable of doing what a fair few people have done already, sometimes completely solo.[/QUOTE]
I think the institute doesn't value the fact that they can create human bodies from scratch, they still see the synths as robots or more accurately as replicants and they don't see them as having intrinsic value
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[QUOTE=Super2Donny;49360076]Am I the only one who think the Institute is the good guy? I wish Piper and Nick Valentine would stop judging me for it[/QUOTE]
Nicks actual comments on the institute are valid though, they have terrorised the land, they have set loose supermutants, they destroy lives, and act with imputy doing whatever they want, they could destroy diamond city as quickly as they would help it, and his speech to the player after they destroy the institute is pretty much the best line anyone ever says to you
[editline]21st December 2015[/editline]
He's the only one that really does say you did a good thing not because fuck-ya-brotherhood/railroad, but because the Commonwealth has lost a boogeyman and its maybe a little safer now for it
the institute honestly feels like bethesda took their usual pure evil antagonist, tried made them relatable, but never actually changed their actions from pure evil.
the institute:
is somehow responsible for the super mutant infestation in the commonwealth
created human clonebots and acts like they're a DOS terminal
kidnap people and replace them with synths
are responsible for the termination of proto NCR organization in the commonwealth
perform brainwashings
steal power from settlement
other stuff i forget
yet when you meet them there is barely any mention of all that by their members. If they justified or regretted it or something it would be different, but the institute seems to completely 180 from enclave 2.0 to ~mankind redefined~ goody scientist trying to fix the commonwealth halfway through the main quest.
[QUOTE=Pops;49359987]what's the outfit?[/QUOTE]
Submariner's Something.
[editline]21st December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;49359908]I have a bar and even still they just stand in that exact same area. I have plenty of spots for them to sit near the bar as well.[/QUOTE]
Really? Which settlement?
And does the bar have a settler/Somebody assigned to it, to tend the bar?
(Also, Bartenders move away from the Bar between 10PM and 12PM, however they still offer to sell drinks. During the days, they will tend the bar normally.)
It's kind of effective at first because the whole thing runs contrary to all the expectations you have for when you find the place, i expected a dark angular bunker, similar to the citadel in hl2 only under ground, filled with morally bankrupt scientists who had been away from the rest of humanity for so long that they no longer even questioned the ethics of their actions.
What i got was [sp] an apple store filled with awkward nerds with the dues ex human revolution soundtrack playing on loop in the lobby.[/sp]
[QUOTE=fulgrim;49360185]It's kind of effective at first because the whole thing runs contrary to all the expectations you have for when you find the place, i expected a dark angular bunker, similar to the citadel in hl2 only under ground, filled with morally bankrupt scientists who had been away from the rest of humanity for so long that they no longer even questioned the ethics of their actions.
What i got was [sp] an apple store filled with awkward nerds with the dues ex human revolution theme playing in the lobby.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]All you need to do is to replace the terminals with holographic monitors and it'll fit perfectly in Mass Effect.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;49360161]
Really? Which settlement?
And does the bar have a settler/Somebody assigned to it, to tend the bar?
(Also, Bartenders move away from the Bar between 10PM and 12PM, however they still offer to sell drinks. During the days, they will tend the bar normally.)[/QUOTE]
The town is Sanctuary. And there is someone assigned to the bar. It just sees random when he decides to be there or not.
imo it has been 200 fucking years since the great war and the US is still a wasteland. I sided with the institute because I believe technology can really make a change (the GECK is a prewar tech and it can terraform the wasteland, imagine all the possible technology the institute could develop), they are just not ready with it
and honestly is humanity ready for technological singularity? synthetic humans shouldn't be tempered by some hippie idealist like the railroad
idk I get too philosophical with fo4
[QUOTE=Soriddo;49360207][sp]All you need to do is to replace the terminals with holographic monitors and it'll fit perfectly in Mass Effect.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Nope, the elevator doesn't take 10 minutes to take you where you want too
[QUOTE=Super2Donny;49360224]
idk I get too philosophical with fo4[/QUOTE]
Dw fallout is [i]supposed[/i] to be a philosophical series, the tagline is "war never changes" and npcs frequently fly off into soliloquies about the futility of humanities progress rebuilding a world they will probably nuke to fuck again the moment they get back on top.
[QUOTE=Super2Donny;49360224]imo it has been 200 fucking years since the great war and the US is still a wasteland. I sided with the institute because I believe technology can really make a change (the GECK is a prewar tech and it can terraform the wasteland, imagine all the possible technology the institute could develop), they are just not ready with it
and honestly is humanity ready for technological singularity? synthetic humans shouldn't be tempered by some hippie idealist like the railroad
idk I get too philosophical with fo4[/QUOTE]
imo Institute and BoS are both the worst factions by far ideologically- they think that rubbing their cancerous dicks on rusty pieces of old world tech will somehow undo the 200+ years of social decline that the wasteland has caused- and the additional 100+ years of social excess and decay that predicated America's turning into a wasteland to begin with.
NCR does the same only on a laughably incompetent political level. Caesar's Legion began with the right idea of trying to adapt society to the new world and avoid the failures of the past, but unfortunately was founded by a retard luddite with a boner for critically misunderstanding Roman civilization.
I actually argue only groups like the railroad, followers of the apocalypse, and maybe minutemen if they don't become another militarist power block like NCR have any chance of rebuilding the wastes in a way that can appropriately handle the necessary decentralized and inclusive society that it needs.
I don't see any of the other factions handling the creation of a new society that consists of a 99% illiterate population of humans, ghouls, reformed super mutants, synths, and robots in a way that doesn't involve inane genocide or dressing up like cowboys or romans and fighting their own asses in a desert.
That being said, the ability to mass produce human or human-like beings to help rebuild is super rad, and shouldn't probably be underestimated for its worth, but there's no point using it to build a huge idiotic slave-society that will probably waste its time building giant pyramids and being beaten by some inbred raiders or something anyway.
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