Fallout 4 V24: You're Tied to This Thread Kid, Your Energy - Games

Alright. I will end this now. The next person that brings up the Commonwealth not being rebuilt after 200 years argument has to go help the settlement.

[QUOTE=Ruh-roh;49363824]Guys c'mon drop it It's Preston mocking hour[/QUOTE] I honestly don't have much beef with him. Probably primarily because I never returned to Sanctuary Hills and I actually had to look up what it was called just now because it's so unimportant to me. Fucking Hancock while doing the U.S.S Constitution quest was fucking horrible though

[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;49363872]When was it shaken apart in this "less stable" part of the East Coast you speak off? What has the Commonwealth against them that California, the Mojave, and Capital Wastes didn't had against them? Preston Garvey loading everyone's task list with radiant quest? :v: Exactly! It's even like Bethesda didn't cross the idea in their minds to have the game set around like 80 years after the great war, making everything in the Commonwealth actually seem plausible in terms of progressive! Nah, let's do the full 210 years, that's a much better fit![/QUOTE] The Minutemen were at one point a stabilizing force outside of Diamond City which society at large relied on to function. Then they collapsed, fractured into smaller groups of scavengers which eventually became raiders, and left society beyond the walls of Diamond City without the glue that once held it together. Without them everything sort of came apart again. Civilization takes a few tries to get it right. It was weak at the core and failed under stress. Now there's a new effort. [editline]21st December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=MissingGlitch;49363878]Alright. I will end this now. The next person that brings up the Commonwealth not being rebuilt after 200 years argument has to go help the settlement.[/QUOTE] Fuck damn

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;49363886]The Minutemen were at one point a stabilizing force outside of Diamond City which society at large relied on to function. Then they collapsed, fractured into smaller groups of scavengers which eventually became raiders, and left society beyond the walls of Diamond City without the glue that once held it together. Without them everything sort of came apart again. Civilization takes a few tries to get it right. It was weak at the core and failed under stress. Now there's a new effort. [editline]21st December 2015[/editline] Fuck damn[/QUOTE] have fun with that settlement

[QUOTE=elowin;49363892]have fun with that settlement[/QUOTE] Tenpines Bluff had their kid kidnapped [I]again.[/I] Naturally.

So why did the minutemen collapse, again ? a crab killed their general, was there any other major reason ?

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;49363897]Tenpines Bluff had their kid kidnapped [I]again.[/I] Naturally.[/QUOTE] Maybe if you kill the kid it can't get kidnapped again. Maybe.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;49363886] Fuck damn[/QUOTE] Quest Started: Raider Problems At Sanctuary Hills I warned you.

[QUOTE=wheel_user;49363900]So why did the minutemen collapse, again ? a crab killed their general, was there any other major reason ?[/QUOTE] they just sucked i guess

[QUOTE=Everything;49363755]For whatever reason I decided to try the deliverer with no silencer and short barrel. Even with average AP I'm able to fire all 16 shots, reload and fire 5 more, all with very high accuracy. [t]http://i.imgur.com/ZWKFPcG.jpg[/t] Hello unexpected VATS build. Now to get critical banker.[/QUOTE] Not sure why people wanna use that pistol. It's so tiny.

[QUOTE=wheel_user;49363900]So why did the minutemen collapse, again ? a crab killed their general, was there any other major reason ?[/QUOTE] Internal strife, [del]Mirelurks[/del] giant enemy crab broke their house leaving them without leadership which made the internal strife worse, most survivors got picked off by people who didn't like them. I think, anyway. I never said it was a good reason, just that it was the reason, and in general can be believed.

Which is why Preston was so willing to make you General for killing a few raiders.

[QUOTE=wheel_user;49363900]So why did the minutemen collapse, again ? a crab killed their general, was there any other major reason ?[/QUOTE] To be fair, it was a really big crab. [editline]21st December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=TheRealRudy;49363914]From what did they actually collapse then? The previous mentioned Radstags? Preston Garvey's radiant task log? Some ripo-ff of the Battle for Hooverdam, Bethesda Edition? [IMG]http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/11423/803096-emil_pagliarulo.jpg[/IMG] [B][I]IT WAS THIS LITTLE SHIT WASN'T IT? HE'S BECOMMING GEORGE LUCAS HIMSELF[/I][/B] :v: [I]Also, every noticed that everyone at Bethesda has like this constant deathstare in their eyes? [/I][/QUOTE] They collapsed from the inside. Read the thread, man!

[QUOTE=Chilean_Wolf;49363871]Totes, bro! Like fucking Commonwealther, get the fuck out of the safety of your walls and rebuild, yo! Fuck what you want! Don't stay in there, if you do, it's not different, it's shit writing! You don't want people to think Bethesda wrote you wrong, do you? Like, rally up your comrades and make a new Republic! Yeah! Go the New Commonwealth Republic (NCR)! Fuck different narratives man, the desert's where it's at, yo. Who wants to play a game where society still hasn't been rebuilt? No one! Gimme that shit built and pristine! Otherwise it wouldn't be like the original Fallouts at all![/QUOTE] I know you're trying to be edgy and sarcastic but it's coming across like brain damage. Nobody's asking for anything pristine, we're just saying that the whole bombs-dropped-last-Thursday feel doesn't really fit the rest of Fallout.

While I really like the idea of the minutemen, like a bunch of fucking revolutionary war re-enactors being a big peace keeping organization, the fact that laser muskets are their main weapon is dumb. I can accept that laser muskets exist, and I can accept that they are really powerful, but I can't accept that they're plentiful. They're fucking [i]laser muskets[/i]. Like regular laser weapons are already supposed to be pretty darn rare, and these are a super niche model on top. That's just ridiculous. And to be fair, I have found pretty much none of the damn things outside of the Minutemen, but that just begs the question, where the fuck are they getting them from?

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;49363915]Internal strife, Mirelurks broke their house leaving them without leadership which made the internal strife worse, most survivors got picked off by people who didn't like them. I think, anyway.[/QUOTE] If they were that easy to break then they wouldn't be a meaningful force to begin with. I feel like the lack of effort to put together some kind of basic security was the biggest issue with the world building, people wouldn't take down all the perfectly fine buildings in Boston after 200 years but they would probably put a more meaningful effort into making them safe. That and the fact that i didn't really understand why the super mutants are such a huge threat, since there's no place to make them in the region as far as i know.

[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;49363932]I know you're trying to be edgy and sarcastic but it's coming across like brain damage. Nobody's asking for anything pristine, we're just saying that the whole bombs-dropped-last-Thursday feel doesn't really fit the rest of Fallout.[/QUOTE] That's why there's 2 coasts. I still don't see the problem in having the East Coast coming behind the West. Why does it bother you so much? If Bethesda had written Fallout 3 and 4 the same, but on the say, Eastern States Republic (to say something), would it have been automatically better? Or is it because of the lack of sand?

[QUOTE=Chilean_Wolf;49363952]That's why there's 2 coasts. I still don't see the problem in having the East Coast coming behind the West. Why does it bother you so much? If Bethesda had written Fallout 3 and 4 the same, but on the say, Eastern States Republic (to say something), would it have been automatically better? Or is it because of the lack of sand?[/QUOTE] No one is asking for it to be the same, everyone is asking for it to be a well thought out, coherent setting that makes good logical sense, and which you can clearly see how it came to the point it is at during the game. well okay not everyone, but everyone you're arguing against right now [editline]21st December 2015[/editline] FUCK WE'RE FALLING IN IT AGAIN

I can keep giving out radiant quests all day people.

[QUOTE=elowin;49363958]No one is asking for it to be the same, everyone is asking for it to be a well thought out, coherent setting that makes good logical sense, and which you can clearly see how it came to the point it is at during the game.[/QUOTE] But the setting does make sense.

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;49363910]Not sure why people wanna use that pistol. It's so tiny.[/QUOTE] I think it'd be better if you could just one-hand it like you do in power armor. It looks small enough that it wouldn't have that much recoil, and it'd look pretty cool. I wonder if we can ever get a mod for akimbo pistols.

[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;49363966]I see enough of sand in the Capital Wasteland and Commonwealth, so that's really not an issue. Hell, if they were smart enough, they could try and turn the sand into clay and bake it or something like that so they would have some kind stronger shelter material, like some village around 2160 already established. Hell they could let Preston manage the entire progress by having radiant houses. :v:[/QUOTE] But Rudy, that's not sand! That's dirt!

The Minutemen collapsed because a crab ate their castle, which lowered their numbers, and then infighting about ranks instead of helping people made some butthurt so they left, and then you take what's left of that to the Quincy massacre/betrayal and then you get one lonely Preston.

[QUOTE=elowin;49363016]all of that[/QUOTE] I agree with some of what you're saying, but you could try arguing like someone who graduated the fourth grade. People might actually listen to what you're saying.

[QUOTE=Chilean_Wolf;49363952]That's why there's 2 coasts. I still don't see the problem in having the East Coast coming behind the West. Why does it bother you so much? If Bethesda had written Fallout 3 and 4 the same, but on the say, Eastern States Republic (to say something), would it have been automatically better? Or is it because of the lack of sand?[/QUOTE] It doesn't bother me. Like many of the people here, I'm discussing Fallout 4 and sometimes that involves discussing its flaws. I'm not the one who's descending into edgy shitposts about sand. Sand is fine, by the way.

[QUOTE=Chilean_Wolf;49363970]But the setting does make sense.[/QUOTE] I'll just politely disagree and leave it at that.

Gotta winter it up while it's December [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/F3qiWyn.png[/thumb] might have already posted this I forgot [URL]http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2223/?[/URL] & [URL]http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4717/?[/URL] (recommend) or [URL]http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1419/?[/URL]

[QUOTE=Agent 47;49364004]I agree with some of what you're saying, but you could try arguing like someone who graduated the fourth grade. People might actually listen to what you're saying.[/QUOTE] Sorry, it's pretty hard to write out arguments with like five different people at once.

[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;49363966]I see enough of sand in the Capital Wasteland and Commonwealth, so that's really not an issue. Hell, if they were smart enough, they could try and turn the sand into clay and bake it or something like that so they would have some kind stronger shelter material, like some village around 2160 already established. Hell they could let Preston manage the entire progress by having radiant houses. :v:[/QUOTE] Why would you need to make clay houses when you have already existing houses and structures everywhere

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49364022]Why would you need to make clay houses when you have already existing houses and structures everywhere[/QUOTE] It's harder to repair buildings than it is to build newer, simpler ones. Still, with how little Boston was actually destroyed, it's not really necessary. Like has been said before, most of the city is pretty much intact, you don't need to do much in the way of repairs. Fucking amazing how many elevators are still fully functional, too.