Fallout 4 V24: You're Tied to This Thread Kid, Your Energy - Games

[QUOTE=CryoDragon;49442135]Why did he put mods on some of the Fallout 4 weapons, this makes me more mad than it really should.[/QUOTE] Why did he compare t-45 to t-60 when t-45 is in fallout 4

For those who questioned Bethesda for why society hasn't rebuilt after 200 years, Obsidian would've probably done the same as well. I remember reading that one of the Obsidian lead dev said that having the society rebuilt as the NCR deviated too far away from the Fallout post-apocalypse setting as a whole and he planned to have them nuked if given the chance. This is why there's the option to nuke the NCR in Lonesome Road.

[QUOTE=Soriddo;49443664]For those who questioned Bethesda for why society hasn't rebuilt after 200 years, Obsidian would've probably done the same as well. I remember reading that one of the Obsidian lead dev said that having the society rebuilt as the NCR deviated too far away from the Fallout post-apocalypse setting as a whole and he planned to have them nuked if given the chance. This is why there's the option to nuke the NCR in Lonesome Road.[/QUOTE] So does that mean nuking the NCR at the end of Lonesome Road is the canon ending?

[QUOTE=fulgrim;49443095]Yeah but even then you would still instantly go from eating dead people to "SHAUN MY BEAUTIFUL BABY BOY!". so i suppose you could claim she's totally nuts/confused and switches from cannibal killer to super-mum, That's a pretty lame kind of crazy.[/QUOTE] You guys are conflating. There's a whole vengeance-obsessed path of dialogue you can use depending on your tone. There's pretty much only a single point I can recall where you have to act like a distraught father/mother as apposed to somebody who is just really pissed off and confused, and that's when you have to exhaust all four dialogue options when talking to valentine before the investigation progresses. It'd probably help a lot if that actually showed what you were about to say though...

[QUOTE=Soriddo;49443664]For those who questioned Bethesda for why society hasn't rebuilt after 200 years, Obsidian would've probably done the same as well. I remember reading that one of the Obsidian lead dev said that having the society rebuilt as the NCR deviated too far away from the Fallout post-apocalypse setting as a whole and he planned to have them nuked if given the chance. This is why there's the option to nuke the NCR in Lonesome Road.[/QUOTE] Ya, for some reason, Chris Avellone is obsessed with keeping Fallout in a nuked to hell state.

it works better if you think of the snotbaby dialogue options as the sole survivor being manipulative

Chris Avellone has a abnormally huge fetish for grim dark in general.

[QUOTE=Soriddo;49443664]For those who questioned Bethesda for why society hasn't rebuilt after 200 years, Obsidian would've probably done the same as well. I remember reading that one of the Obsidian lead dev said that having the society rebuilt as the NCR deviated too far away from the Fallout post-apocalypse setting as a whole and he planned to have them nuked if given the chance. This is why there's the option to nuke the NCR in Lonesome Road.[/QUOTE] [I]one[/I] specific obsidian dev feels that fallout should never be allowed to be civilized again, and is frustrated that the NCR hasn't been rekt in awhile. but that's one dude and as far as im aware, no one actually agrees with him (except the entirety of bethseda i guess) it's why they made the NCR so hilariously incompetent in new vegas.

I'd like to take advantage of the Steam sale and pick up some FO3 and NV DLCs, but which ones are the best? I'll probably get three or four and GRA just because it is cheap and dirty.

iirc he's not at obsidian any more either.

[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;49443763]I'd like to take advantage of the Steam sale and pick up some FO3 and NV DLCs, but which ones are the best? I'll probably get three or four and GRA just because it is cheap and dirty.[/QUOTE] Just get the game of the year and ultimate editions with all DLCs. Better deal, and even if you don't play them all, a lot of mods still use the assets. Plus they're like 6 bucks a piece right now.

[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;49443763]I'd like to take advantage of the Steam sale and pick up some FO3 and NV DLCs, but which ones are the best? I'll probably get three or four and GRA just because it is cheap and dirty.[/QUOTE] just get fo3 goty and new vegas ultimate, it'll be like an extra $2 and include all the dlcs

[QUOTE=butre;49443792]just get fo3 goty and new vegas ultimate, it'll be like an extra $2 and include all the dlcs[/QUOTE] I have both already, that's the thing. Just get the GOTY/Ultimates anyway?

[QUOTE=Soriddo;49443664]For those who questioned Bethesda for why society hasn't rebuilt after 200 years, Obsidian would've probably done the same as well. I remember reading that one of the Obsidian lead dev said that having the society rebuilt as the NCR deviated too far away from the Fallout post-apocalypse setting as a whole and he planned to have them nuked if given the chance. This is why there's the option to nuke the NCR in Lonesome Road.[/QUOTE] Chris Avellone has a huge boner for grimdark stuff. He wasn't the lead on New Vegas, Josh Sawyer was. So while Avellone could be as creative as he wanted with the writing Sawyer probably would have put a stop to any overly depressing stuff, or the outright destruction of things that already exist just for the sake of soft rebooting the franchise back to Fallout 1.

[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;49443548]The best part is, this could have done with the entire player character backstory so the game would have allowed for a faceless protagonist ready for you to fill in with your own character, like in New Vegas. Get rid of all the family drama. Just let the game start with the intro. Then pull a RAGE and the first thing you see after the intro is you waking up in the cryopod, memory loss and all that stuff because of extended cryopreservation. You get out, character creation or something. Then escape Vault 111 and boom, you're out and its all up to you in your quest to save the Commonwealth. Also get rid of the voice, and return meaningful, influencable and extensive dialog. And then eventually you stumble upon the Memory Den, and you are able to experience various memories of pre-war people and by this Bethesda is able to show off the pre-war sections they wanted (would love to see someone on the day of the great war in the city of Boston while shit went down), and much more, like memories of people living in the wastes, getting their perspectives. Boom, I just solved the entire roleplaying problem this game severely has and also made an use for a very interesting place in the game that's just majorly underused which is a bloody shame because very interesting stuff could have shown here. Hire me Beth. (Hell most of this could be done in a mod)[/QUOTE] Nah why do that when they clearly are trying to copy mass effect Mass effect doesn't have protagonists with no backstories, why would [copied feature from a 5 year old game] have that then???

[QUOTE=overwatch pvt;49443690]Ya, for some reason, Chris Avellone is obsessed with keeping Fallout in a nuked to hell state.[/QUOTE] It's odd too, because Shady Sands and Vault City have been some of the most interesting locations in all of the Fallout games, and they are "civilized." They're great because you get to see this disparity between the violence and filth of the wasteland, and then these clean, brand-new towns with armed police on every corner and tight restrictions placed on everything. Like in Vault City they straight up search you for chems and alcohol, and impose a curfew, it makes everything really tense. A game set within NCR society could have some pretty great potential. Maybe have it be canon that Mr. House was victorious in the mojave, and the NCR goes into state of socio-economic decline; just to spice things up a bit. Outside of the high-tech civilized towns you have the quintessential Fallout wasteland with more of a lawless feel, where the NCR's authority is mostly confined to small police forces. You can have "grimdark" without having to constantly blow the game universe to shit, civilized society can be evil and cynical too, and even then you can still have wasteland outside the town/city limits :eng101:

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;49443809]Chris Avellone has a huge boner for grimdark stuff. He wasn't the lead on New Vegas, Josh Sawyer was. So while Avellone could be as creative as he wanted with the writing Sawyer probably would have put a stop to any overly depressing stuff, or the outright destruction of things that already exist just for the sake of soft rebooting the franchise back to Fallout 1.[/QUOTE] even if avellone [I]was[/I] hypothetically the lead on what would have been 3, i don't think even he would have taken fallout back to square one 200 years into the apocalypse with no explanation like bethseda did as hypno-toad said you don't really need to throw away grimdark themes as society progresses in the universe, infact you could probably get even grimmer, and no matter how many towns there are there will always be plenty of wasteland to go around.

Having contrast between civilization and lawlessness makes the lawlessness more impactful. That's why New Vegas' world was so good, the strip compared to everything else (especially Freeside which is, you know, right on the strip's doorstep.)

If I had to pick a plot for a new Obisidian Fallout, I'd do an NCR Civil War plot, which is a way of wrecking them without blowing the shit out of them. That or visit Chicago, and have a rebellion against some oppressive BoS ran state. My dream would be a return to top-down roots a la Wasteland 2 but Bethesda would never go for that. Sadly I think the days of niche games like that are over.

-snippity damn corrupted video-

[QUOTE=Super2Donny;49444110][video=youtube;ZL6JkamriN0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL6JkamriN0[/video][/QUOTE] Is it just me or does this video not work for anyone else

[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;49443797]I have both already, that's the thing. Just get the GOTY/Ultimates anyway?[/QUOTE] yeah, its cheaper to get the goty/ultimate than to buy every dlc by quite a significant sum of money [editline]3rd January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Everything;49444228]Is it just me or does this video not work for anyone else[/QUOTE] yeah it tells me my browser doesn't support any available formats for about a quarter of a second and immediately goes to a super blurry picture of the thumbnail

You know i was disappointed with how organic the gen 3's were i was hoping for something closer to this. [video=youtube;V38vYsNmJ1Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V38vYsNmJ1Y[/video] But really there just humans with robo brains :unimpressed:

I was visiting the Colonial Taphouse with MacCready while it was empty, and he just suddenly started talking to the door. "Another robot drink vendor? Hope this one doesn't just sell noodles." "Hey there, what's on the menu?" "Aaaaand?" "Ugh, doesn't anyone-" Shortly afterwards he vanished from the area, and he never re-appeared until I reloaded a save.

I know its too early but I'd like to see a fallout game set in the anexed Canada, or along the boarder, maybe set somewhere with snow at least as opposed to the trend of making dirt or deserts everywhere, that or a DLC where you fly over into the western part of massachusets

So I reinstalled Fallout 4, why is there no Fallout4Custom.ini?

[QUOTE=Sableye;49445330]I know its too early but I'd like to see a fallout game set in the anexed Canada, or along the boarder, maybe set somewhere with snow at least as opposed to the trend of making dirt or deserts everywhere, that or a DLC where you fly over into the western part of massachusets[/QUOTE] I'd be so hyped for western Massachusetts DLC. I live in the area and outside of the small Norman Rockwell small towns there's Springfield the second largest city in Massachusetts and a ton of untouched beautiful wilderness. There's a lot to work with.

Man, there are parts of this game that feel like they're pandering super hard to keep up Fallout "tradition"- like, we GOTTA have the player start out in vault with a 10mm as their basic gun, and we GOTTA have super mutants be one of the major enemy types, and we GOTTA have hyper-violent anarchist raiders literally everywhere at all times to serve as the player's cannon fodder. But with all this tradition-keeping keeping they forgot what is arguably the single most important mainstay of any Fallout game. [sp]Where the fuck is my BB gun, Bethesda?[/sp]

[QUOTE=Simplemac3;49445832]Man, there are parts of this game that feel like they're pandering super hard to keep up Fallout "tradition"- like, we GOTTA have the player start out in vault with a 10mm as their basic gun, and we GOTTA have super mutants be one of the major enemy types, and we GOTTA have hyper-violent anarchist raiders literally everywhere at all times to serve as the player's cannon fodder. But with all this tradition-keeping keeping they forgot what is arguably the single most important mainstay of any Fallout game. [sp]Where the fuck is my BB gun, Bethesda?[/sp][/QUOTE] Its still too early to tell, but they could do something along the lines of Gun Runner's Arsenal at some point. [sp]And figure in multiple BB Guns as a hook to get "traditionalists" to plunk down on it.[/sp] Also, other than something to do with the engine or the tacked on "romance" thing, WHY did they remove the ability to have either Dogmeat or I guess Codsworth AND a humanoid running with you at the same time without use of a mod?

[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;49442192]Man I just love all the effort put into reactions to various activities by companions, especially things like cannibalism; [video=youtube;QFMi-ycJgPA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFMi-ycJgPA[/video][/QUOTE]I love how completely unfazed Codsworth is by it.