The Halo Thread V12: The Last Thread Turned Into A Bridge
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[QUOTE=Zeos;50150658]I'd say firing a fucking weapon that, when completed shoots across the galaxy, while unstable should easily have vaporized the planet sized ark[/QUOTE]
Doesn't it only target organic life though?
[QUOTE=Vilusia;50150700]Doesn't it only target organic life though?[/QUOTE]
It still requires a lot of energy.
But wouldn't an unfinished version use less energy?
[QUOTE=Vilusia;50150700]Doesn't it only target organic life though?[/QUOTE]
I think you underestimate the energy required to instantly kill everything across 100 000 light years
[QUOTE=Zeos;50150774]I think you underestimate the energy required to [B]instantly kill[/B] everything across 100 000 light years[/QUOTE]
That's actually something that bugs me about the Halo concept. Ironically, even more than the idea that they somehow kill [I]only[/I] sentient life. Even with 7 Halos strategically placed throughout the galaxy it'd still take like ten thousand years for the magic explosion to reach and kill everything because of the speed of light. I guess they shoot some kind of magic hyper fold space explosion that travels significantly faster than light because "any sufficiently advanced technology", but it still bugs me because it seems more like a writer's oversight than anything else.
Could be sent through slipspace?
[QUOTE=Zeos;50150658]I'd say firing a fucking weapon that, when completed shoots across the galaxy, while unstable should easily have vaporized the planet sized ark[/QUOTE]
iirc it didn't activate as much as just collapse in the process of trying to activate?
Would the array kill a gravemind? Or is it immune because it is made up of a bunch of smaller minds, not a single one?
I guess it would kill any sentient minds absorbed into it.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;50150924]Would the array kill a gravemind? Or is it immune because it is made up of a bunch of smaller minds, not a single one?
I guess it would kill any sentient minds absorbed into it.[/QUOTE]
If memory serves me right, the Halo arrays had no effect against the Flood (Graveminds included). What it was made to do was wipe out any organic lifeforms (sentient or otherwise) that could be used as a food source for the Flood.
You would think if the Pillar Of Autumn's reactor exploding was enough to break apart and destroy a Halo ring, a Halo ring exploding would be enough to do the same to the Ark.
I agree that its bullshit 343 Guilty Spark survived too. It just feels lazy.
5:[sp] Guilty spark surviving [/sp]is spoilers, you monsters.
[QUOTE=Katra804;50150964]If memory serves me right, the Halo arrays had no effect against the Flood (Graveminds included). What it was made to do was wipe out any organic lifeforms (sentient or otherwise) that could be used as a food source for the Flood.[/QUOTE]
...wasn't the gravemind on the Ark? If the Ark is still around...
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TIL literally nothing happened as a result of halo 3 except the chief took a nap
[QUOTE=Why485;50150802]That's actually something that bugs me about the Halo concept. Ironically, even more than the idea that they somehow kill [I]only[/I] sentient life. Even with 7 Halos strategically placed throughout the galaxy it'd still take like ten thousand years for the magic explosion to reach and kill everything because of the speed of light. I guess they shoot some kind of magic hyper fold space explosion that travels significantly faster than light because "any sufficiently advanced technology", but it still bugs me because it seems more like a writer's oversight than anything else.[/QUOTE]
I think the idea is - at least as expressed since Greg Bear's novels - that the Halo rings utilized some kind of "precursor thought-based space magic" energy which transcended certain laws of physics or something, meaning they were able to be selective about killing intelligence or organisms with sufficiently advanced neurological systems. I personally don't mind the precursor stuff since I liked the idea before it was used in Halo, but I guess some people might object to it.
[QUOTE=Wulfram;50151030]You would think if the Pillar Of Autumn's reactor exploding was enough to break apart and destroy a Halo ring, a Halo ring exploding would be enough to do the same to the Ark.
I agree that its bullshit 343 Guilty Spark survived too. It just feels lazy.[/QUOTE]
to be fair, the explosion from the Pillar of Autumn(a literal explosion) may be vastly different from the WIP ring's explosion(failed activation). I mean, it cleanly cut through the ship that Arbiter rode back to Earth.
[QUOTE=The Jack;50151080]5:[sp] Guilty spark surviving [/sp]is spoilers, you monsters.[/QUOTE]
I thought the spoiler threshold for that has long since passed?
[editline]17th April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=lxmach1;50151140]to be fair, the explosion from the Pillar of Autumn(a literal explosion) may be vastly different from the WIP ring's explosion(failed activation). I mean, it cleanly cut through the ship that Arbiter rode back to Earth.[/QUOTE]
I thought that was the slipspace bubble collapsing
[QUOTE=lxmach1;50151140]to be fair, the explosion from the Pillar of Autumn(a literal explosion) may be vastly different from the WIP ring's explosion(failed activation). I mean, it cleanly cut through the ship that Arbiter rode back to Earth.[/QUOTE]
I thought the whole plan was to activate the ring, and since it wasn't finished it would would explode. Also yeah, the thing that cut the Forward Unto Dawn in half was the slipspace bubble leading back to Earth collapsing.
[QUOTE=lxmach1;50151140]to be fair, the explosion from the Pillar of Autumn(a literal explosion) may be vastly different from the WIP ring's explosion(failed activation). I mean, it cleanly cut through the ship that Arbiter rode back to Earth.[/QUOTE]
It was the slipspace portal collapsing that cut the ship in half, not the explosion on the Ark. If it was the explosion from the Ark, Chief would have been vaporised.
[editline]17th April 2016[/editline]
Give me clocks as you please.
[QUOTE=Itszutak;50151088]...wasn't the gravemind on the Ark? If the Ark is still around...
[editline]17th April 2016[/editline]
TIL literally nothing happened as a result of halo 3 except the chief took a nap[/QUOTE]
Not exactly, no. The Gravemind was trying to rebuild itself after escaping to Installation 04B as a result of High Charity being destroyed (not exactly sure how the hell it managed to escape, but that's anyone's guess). The Gravemind itself ended up being destroyed as a result of the premature firing of 04B, with said premature firing causing the then-unfinished installation to act more like a titanic bombshell when it was set off, which also resulted in the installation tearing itself apart and leading to an escape via Warthog like at the end of Halo 1.
Basically, the Gravemind was on the unfinished installation instead of the Ark, and got blown the fuck up as a result of an early firing of said installation. :v:
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;50151141]I thought the spoiler threshold for that has long since passed?[/QUOTE]
Well I mean it's nearly been ten years since Halo 3, combined with the fact that the thread pretty liberally discusses everything but the newest Halo game, and even then we've been pretty reckless with discussing 5's twist.
[QUOTE=RikohZX;50151244]Well I mean it's nearly been ten years since Halo 3, combined with the fact that the thread pretty liberally discusses everything but the newest Halo game, and even then we've been pretty reckless with discussing 5's twist.[/QUOTE]
I thought garbage stories didn't get spoiler-warning time.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;50151361]I thought garbage stories didn't get spoiler-warning time.[/QUOTE]
judging by the last page it'd seem not everyone agrees
I mean we dance around the issue with broad summations that, yes, the plot sucks, but people are being very picky about the twist
[QUOTE=RikohZX;50151426]judging by the last page it'd seem not everyone agrees
I mean we dance around the issue with broad summations that, yes, the plot sucks, but people are being very picky about the twist[/QUOTE]
Well the twist is pants on head retarded if you liked Halo 4
I'm still not sure how the Flood is supposed to be dead. It's been said that any flood can form a gravemind, provided it has enough intelligence to make it. Besides, the other Halos + other Forerunner installations has to have some Flood left on it.
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;50151993]I'm still not sure how the Flood is supposed to be dead. It's been said that any flood can form a gravemind, provided it has enough intelligence to make it. Besides, the other Halos + other Forerunner installations has to have some Flood left on it.[/QUOTE]
We're seeing them in Halo Wars 2.
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Sorry if this has been posted, but I found this today:
[video=youtube;_4yJfE4wP-s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4yJfE4wP-s[/video]
Working on a ODST cosplay. Still plenty of work to do but I'd love some critique on where it's at.
[IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/103735282/ODST.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Katra804;50150964]If memory serves me right, the Halo arrays had no effect against the Flood (Graveminds included). What it was made to do was wipe out any organic lifeforms (sentient or otherwise) that could be used as a food source for the Flood.[/QUOTE]
But how does that make any sense? In Halo 3, Cortana said she had a plan to wipe out the flood if they go to the ark. I never understood this. What exactly was her plan? Did she know that High Charity will crash there? Was it her that made it crash there? Did she rely on it crashing there and the chief destroying the ark, and not one single flood spore or whatever being somewhere else? If not, why didn't it go somewhere else other than Earth, like into hiding and wait? The same goes for that flood ship that crashed on Earth. It just doesn't make any sense for the gravemind to concentrate all his forces at one place, the one place where the whole military might of the UNSC and the Covenant were and where they could wipe him out.
[QUOTE=Adarrek;50154128]But how does that make any sense? In Halo 3, Cortana said she had a plan to wipe out the flood if they go to the ark. I never understood this. What exactly was her plan? Did she know that High Charity will crash there? Was it her that made it crash there? Did she rely on it crashing there and the chief destroying the ark, and not one single flood spore or whatever being somewhere else? If not, why didn't it go somewhere else other than Earth, like into hiding and wait? The same goes for that flood ship that crashed on Earth. It just doesn't make any sense for the gravemind to concentrate all his forces at one place, the one place where the whole military might of the UNSC and the Covenant were and where they could wipe him out.[/QUOTE]
I think what's implied by that is that she will get Chief to activate 04b, severly damaging the Ark in the explosion. (and destroying the Gravemind, reverting the Flood to the Feral Stage).
As for the Gravemind, it only gains tactics and strategy via the food it consumes; it's not too hard to believe that the Gravemind would simply become hellbent on attempting to prevent Chief from firing the incomplete ring and destroying much of the Flood force.
[QUOTE=Croninberg;50154181]I think what's implied by that is that she will get Chief to activate 04b, severly damaging the Ark in the explosion. (and destroying the Gravemind, reverting the Flood to the Feral Stage).
As for the Gravemind, it only gains tactics and strategy via the food it consumes; it's not too hard to believe that the Gravemind would simply become hellbent on attempting to prevent Chief from firing the incomplete ring and destroying much of the Flood force.[/QUOTE]
From what i saw in the books, the Gravemind also get all memories and personalities from those they infect. The Prophet of Regret is an example of this. He was was killed and infected but still retained his personality and consciousness. Fabar's (The Master Builder) wife and child were infected and then spoke through flood forms to Fabar, as a form of psychological warfare.
[QUOTE=overwatch pvt;50152676]Working on a ODST cosplay. Still plenty of work to do but I'd love some critique on where it's at.
[IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/103735282/ODST.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
There's a [URL="https://www.facebook.com/groups/528738863837600/?fref=ts"]Facebook group[/URL] that's good for getting feedback.
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;50154571]There's a [URL="https://www.facebook.com/groups/528738863837600/?fref=ts"]Facebook group[/URL] that's good for getting feedback.[/QUOTE]
I'm in that group. Wanted to get some feedback from regular halo fans rather than just cosplayers though.
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