The Halo Thread V12: The Last Thread Turned Into A Bridge - Games

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49033297]Every complaint I've read from him is legitimate. His most recent one is a dislike for the story and art style. He's definitely not the only that doesn't like what 343 did, it's perfectly fine that people don't like every single thing about a game. If we all liked it and claimed there were no faults with it we wouldn't have much use for this forum. Every post would be "Halo 4 is perfect" and every reply would just be "yeah". It has issues, people (like me) point out these issues not because we hate 343 or Halo it's because we like Halo, and we want more good Halo games. He's called an idiot for not liking the Halo 5 story too, which doesn't make any sense to me. The story is weak, not a lot happened. I get that they were setting up 6 but the story that's presented in the game doesn't hold up. You're free to think its the best Halo story yet but I don't think calling someone dumb for having a different opinion helps with discussion.[/QUOTE] For me personally, it's the fact that he's so vitriolic and vehement in his dislike for 343 and everything they've done. There are other people in this thread that voice their distaste in a much more composed and friendly manner. The fact that he keeps piping up and shouting "Halo 5 sucks!" doesn't help either... his last comment after a few pages of silence was something like "Just finished Halo 5 - that sucked". Sure you don't have to [I]like [/I]what 343 has done and Halo 5, but you don't have to be a douche about it either.

[QUOTE=Falstad007;49033350]For me personally, it's the fact that he's so vitriolic and vehement in his dislike for 343 and everything they've done. There are other people in this thread that voice their distaste in a much more composed and friendly manner. The fact that he keeps piping up and shouting "Halo 5 sucks!" doesn't help either. Sure you don't have to [I]like [/I]what 343 has done and Halo 5, but you don't have to be a douche about it either.[/QUOTE] How have I been a douche? I gave Xalener tips on how to improve his model, I get called autistic. I explain that I like the idea but not the execution, I get called an idiot. [QUOTE=Wickerman123;49033092]Care to explain why it's "bad."? Sure some of the armor was dumb and out of place by general consensus. But could you go into detail about why it's bad? [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] At no point do you ever convey an opinion. You never say "I think x" you always say "x is this and x is that" like you're being definitive. Maybe if you took more time to read through your posts and practice actually getting words out you're mouth, people wouldn't hate you so much. [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] I think they dumbed down theatre a bit due to native streaming and DVR capabilities. Bookmarking might save it to the hard drive, I don't know, if you're worried about losing something, just save it with DVR and keep it bookmarked.[/QUOTE] The new arstyle is over designed and doesn't mix well with the previous games. If you wish to know more read my Halo 4 posts from 2 years ago How come this armour isn't in Halo 5? [img]http://www.halopedia.org/images/c/cb/H4-Terminal-PreHuman-Death.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;49033388] The new arstyle is over designed and doesn't mix well with the previous games. If you wish to know more read my Halo 4 posts from 2 years ago[/QUOTE] I honestly really agree with you on this. The Halo 4 and 5 art design for armour is way over the top and over designed. Compared to the original designs of the Mark V and VI and even the armour from Reach, there's just so much seemingly unnecessary detail. Bungie started going in that direction in Reach and I have the feeling if they continued making Halo they would have done the same, but Halo 4 and 5 took it farther.

[QUOTE=Wulfram;49033432]I honestly really agree with you on this. The Halo 4 and 5 art design for armour is way over the top and over designed. Compared to the original designs of the Mark V and VI and even the armour from Reach, there's just so much seemingly unnecessary detail. Bungie started going in that direction in Reach and I have the feeling if they continued making Halo they would have done the same, but Halo 4 and 5 took it farther.[/QUOTE] I think Reach had the perfect armour since it was just detailed enough to were it matched Halo 3 while still looking like old tech. [thumb]http://halo.bungie.net/images/games/Reach/images/screenshots/80610/SCREENSHOTS/1920/Reach_LnoS_Cinematic01.jpg[/thumb] The only 343i armour that I like are their version of the scout helmet and Helioskrill. I mainly like Helioskrill since it makes sense why it'd be designed like that. [thumb]http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/a/a2/H5GMB_Armor_Helioskrill.png/revision/latest?cb=20141111162249[/thumb]

[QUOTE=Falstad007;49033350]For me personally, it's the fact that he's so vitriolic and vehement in his dislike for 343 and everything they've done. There are other people in this thread that voice their distaste in a much more composed and friendly manner. The fact that he keeps piping up and shouting "Halo 5 sucks!" doesn't help either... his last comment after a few pages of silence was something like "Just finished Halo 5 - that sucked". Sure you don't have to [I]like [/I]what 343 has done and Halo 5, but you don't have to be a douche about it either.[/QUOTE] He really isn't though, lol You guys act like you've never been on the internet before He expresses somewhat overzealous dislike for 343 just as much as Delta and Makol express blind love for them Just because somebody has a negative opinion on something you like doesn't mean they should be hated, it's kind of sad really. Every time he posts something like "I really didn't like the campaign" he gets fucking demolished with dumbs as if that promotes good discussion as to why there might be something wrong with the game [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=ossumsauce;49031126]So again. You like the idea of Halo 4, minus Halo 4. You're a fucking idiot. Then again, we knew that already.[/QUOTE] Like this, right here Was this necessary? It was clear from Spartans post that he was stating he liked the idea of a sequel about the Chief after he wakes up post-Halo 3, but did not like the story they told (IE the Didact, Promethean's, turning 117 into space Jesus). Perfectly reasonable opinion, he wanted more of the story but didn't like where that 'more' went. It's one thing to disagree and say "Well hey, I thought it was good because..." But nope! "You're a fucking idiot." Reeeeeeal mature gents.

[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;49032529]what[/QUOTE] I OP'd threads, I run the Facepunch Halo Steam group, admin on the Spartan Company page, constantly play with FPer's and organize group events. That's what.

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;49033443]I think Reach had the perfect armour since it was just detailed enough to were it matched Halo 3 while still looking like old tech. [thumb]http://halo.bungie.net/images/games/Reach/images/screenshots/80610/SCREENSHOTS/1920/Reach_LnoS_Cinematic01.jpg[/thumb] The only 343i armour that I like are their version of the scout helmet and Helioskrill. I mainly like Helioskrill since it makes sense why it'd be designed like that. [thumb]http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/a/a2/H5GMB_Armor_Helioskrill.png/revision/latest?cb=20141111162249[/thumb][/QUOTE] I agree with you about the armour in Reach, but that other armour looks wonky as fuck. Why does the helmet have tusks and the boots have 2 toes? Why are the elbows seemingly floating off the armour?

[QUOTE=Wulfram;49033500]I agree with you about the armour in Reach, but that other armour looks wonky as fuck. Why does the helmet have tusks and the boots have 2 toes? Why are the elbows seemingly floating off the armour?[/QUOTE] Oh it's designed by an Elite and you can kind of see the Arbiter's Halo 2 armour in it. It being designed by an Elite is why I'm ok with how odd it is and why I kind of like it's look. Yeah I don't understand the floating elbow amour? That's an early render so I don't think that's in the game. Oh and I love the Rail Gun. It looks pretty good. [thumb]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/8/8f/H5G_Render_Railgun.png/revision/latest?cb=20150811021132[/thumb] A bit over designed but the view model looks good

[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;49033451] 343 just as much as Delta and Makol express [B]blind love [/B]for them.[/QUOTE] Yeah, why don't you just stop right there before you make yourself look more dumb. Unlike you we work/worked in the Industry and understand the bullshit developers have to go through because of schedules, publisher, partnering companies, and entitled jackasses. Blind love? Go somewhere else, facepunch is a big forum. We'll take Spartan over you anyday.

[QUOTE=Delta616;49033497]I OP'd threads, I run the Facepunch Halo Steam group, admin on the Spartan Company page, constantly play with FPer's and organize group events. That's what.[/QUOTE] "Say my name." "D-Delta." "You're goddamn right." [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Delta616;49033524]Yeah, why don't you just stop right there before you make yourself look more dumb. Unlike you we work/worked in the Industry and understand the bullshit developers have to go through because of schedules, publisher, partnering companies, and entitled jackasses. Blind love? Go somewhere else.[/QUOTE] easy there tiger, you're proving my point "we work in the Industry" I can't get enough of this shit you're seriously clinging to this odd sense of power that you made up for yourself you're a game tester, you don't "work in the industry"

[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;49033525]"Say my name." "D-Delta." "You're goddamn right." [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] easy there tiger, you're proving my point[/QUOTE] What exactly is your point besides shit posting? What the hell are you doing man?

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;49033510]Oh it's designed by an Elite and you can kind of see the Arbiter's Halo 2 armour in it. It being designed by an Elite is why I'm ok with how odd it is and why I kind of like it's look. Yeah I don't understand the floating elbow amour? That's an early render so I don't think that's in the game. Oh and I love the Rail Gun. It looks pretty good. [thumb]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/8/8f/H5G_Render_Railgun.png/revision/latest?cb=20150811021132[/thumb] A bit over designed but the view model looks good[/QUOTE] Ahh, that actually makes sense then. I can see what you mean though, the wrist armour looks a lot like the Arbiter's armour. Yeah, as much as I dont care for the armour, I really like the design of the human weapons. Apart from the BR which looks weird to me, the DMR, Pistol and AR all look really good [t]http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/9/90/H5G_Render_DMR.png/revision/latest?cb=20150811011723[/t] [t]http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/7/7b/H5G_Render_Magnum-M6H2.png/revision/latest?cb=20150704094943[/t] [t]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/a/a0/H5G_Render_AssaultRifle.png/revision/latest?cb=20150812231958[/t]

[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;49033525] "we work in the Industry" I can't get enough of this shit you're seriously clinging to this odd sense of power that you made up for yourself you're a game tester, you don't "work in the industry"[/QUOTE] Excuse me, but you don't know me nor my employment history besides I tested game. Odd sense of power I made up myself? What are you doing? I'm clinging on to nothing.

[QUOTE=Delta616;49033533]What exactly is your point besides shit posting? What the hell are you doing man?[/QUOTE] Trying to promote critical discussion of a flawed game and maybe help you get a sense of humor Seriously you seem like a cool dude sometimes and then you go off spouting crap like "I work in the industry" and "I'm a community leader of the Halo thread" and "I'm gothams reckoning" and I just don't know man Maybe instead of making excuses as to why we should listen to you and why we're all morons you should actually go through and debate some of the points we make

[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;49033562]Trying to promote critical discussion of a flawed game and maybe help you get a sense of humor Seriously you seem like a cool dude sometimes and then you go off spouting crap like "I work in the industry" and "I'm a community leader of the Halo thread" and "I'm gothams reckoning" and I just don't know man Maybe instead of making excuses as to why we should listen to you and why we're all morons you should actually go through and debate some of the points we make[/QUOTE] You really don't have a single clue to what you're bitching about right now, do you. Grow the hell up, or stop shitting up or Halo thread.

[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;49033562]Trying to [B]promote critical discussion[/B] of a flawed game and maybe help you get a sense of humor Seriously you seem like a cool dude sometimes and then you go off spouting crap like "I work in the industry" and "I'm a community leader of the Halo thread" and "I'm gothams reckoning" and I just don't know man Maybe instead of making excuses as to why we should listen to you and why we're all morons you should actually go through and debate some of the points we make[/QUOTE] [quote=SpartanXC9]Just beat Halo 5's story. That was shit.[/quote] That's not how that works.

[QUOTE=Delta616;49033577]You really don't have a single clue to what you're bitching about right now, do you. Grow the hell up, or stop shitting up or Halo thread.[/QUOTE] I mean, I am a member of this forum I am allowed to post in whatever thread I want Just because you're the community leader or something and don't really like what I'm saying doesn't mean I'll stop posting In other news, who in here is Plat? I need good teammates

I wonder if we can go a page without having Delta mention that he tests video games.

[QUOTE=Falstad007;49033601]That's not how that works.[/QUOTE] It's one thing to articulate a point with some colorful language, because let's be fucking (hue) honest here it's the internet we're allowed to swear It's another thing to take his opinion on a game (IE, "it was shit") and turn it around into an attack on him instead of his opinion

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49033611]I wonder if we can go a page without having Delta mention that he tests video games.[/QUOTE] Tested* Infact, it's 50/50 shot someone else brings it up.

Do the boxes I give you make you think I have blind love for 343? lmao I give you boxes because you're annoying as shit. I hated the campaigns of 4 and 5 but I still get what they're trying to do. Only part of Halo 5 that I like is the Arena Multiplayer. Warzone is good but it definitely needs more maps to stay fresh, or it can stop making me play on the snow level, that'd be nice.

[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;49033621]It's one thing to articulate a point with some colorful language, because let's be fucking (hue) honest here it's the internet we're allowed to swear It's another thing to take his opinion on a game (IE, "it was shit") and turn it around into an attack on him instead of his opinion[/QUOTE] He sounds like a bratty little kid is the point.

[QUOTE=Makol;49033628]Do the boxes I give you make you think I have blind love for 343? lmao I give you boxes because you're annoying as shit. I hated the campaigns of 4 and 5 but I still get what they're trying to do. Only part of Halo 5 that I like is the Arena Multiplayer. Warzone is good but it definitely needs more maps to stay fresh, or it can stop making me play on the snow level, that'd be nice.[/QUOTE] Exactly! I enjoyed both of 343's Halo's but theres things I hate about Halo 4, and things I dislike about Halo 5. Stop putting words in our mouth. We don't like the annoying bullshit that's constantly brought up 3 fucking years later. And bullshit that entire industry has to suffer through but you only point the fingers at 343. Don't put words in our mouth.

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;49033388]How have I been a douche? I gave Xalener tips on how to improve his model, I get called autistic. I explain that I like the idea but not the execution, I get called an idiot. The new arstyle is over designed and doesn't mix well with the previous games. If you wish to know more read my Halo 4 posts from 2 years ago How come this armour isn't in Halo 5? [img]http://www.halopedia.org/images/c/cb/H4-Terminal-PreHuman-Death.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] That doesn't make it bad. It makes it inconsistent. You need to articulate more. Isn't that armor ancient human or some shit? Pretty sure it was in a terminal video. To be honest, I think the main reason I hate you is because you straight up fail at communicating. You always come across as some sort of pretentious dickhead. As far as I remember you straight up told Xaelener that he was doing it wrong. I don't care if you're right (which I don't think you were) but regardless, you need to be less of a dick in the way you type. If you're autistic, say so, it would at least give context. If you just have poor communication skills, work on them. I'm not against you having different opinions but straight up calling things "bad" or "wrong" doesn't indicate an opinion. Please for the love of god, actually read this and think about what I've said, don't just shrug it off as me being a dick. I'm trying to boil down what seems to make people annoyed with you so that you can work on it because I can't imagine it's fun having everyone hate on you all the time.

[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;49033621]It's one thing to articulate a point with some colorful language, because let's be fucking (hue) honest here it's the internet we're allowed to swear It's another thing to take his opinion on a game (IE, "it was shit") and turn it around into an attack on him instead of his opinion[/QUOTE] Perhaps because we don't need daily reminders that he hates Halo 4.

-snip- just gonna drop it because I don't care anymore Seriously though, who in here is Plat in Team Arena? I wanna get a team together to try and get to Diamond, then Onyx

[QUOTE=Delta616;49033681]Perhaps because we don't need daily reminders that he hates Halo 4.[/QUOTE] Maybe we could include it in the OP. "Delta test(ed?)s vidya" "Spartan hates 343"

[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;49033687]never put any words in your mouth, anything I gave you crap over were direct quotes [/QUOTE] Figure of speech.

-snip again-

I'm going to jump in and defend Delta. You guys all seem to think QA Testing is a piece of piss and hardly a job. [B]Do you even know how important playtesting is?[/B] Hell it makes up a significant part of my coursework and it's a fucking pain in the ass. You all get to play the final product fine and dandy but you don't have to play the same 10 minute section 100 fucking times reporting back your findings. You guys need to lay off Delta. QA testing is an extremely important part of game development and an unappreciated one at that. All the stuff people have been calling him up on is completely unjustified. I have agreed with him on the majority of posts regarding the game development process. [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;49033562][B]spouting crap like "I work in the industry"[/B] [/QUOTE] Hold the fuck up, you can't tell him he didn't work in the industry. He's clearly demonstrated a greater knowledge of the process than yourself so far. Stop being a complete dickhead.