[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;49320167]that was my point though, reducing purple guy to just a guy that kills stuff because he kills stuff is really underwhelming and doesn't gel with the otherwise obfuscated, complicated and layered story, again, i got the feeling like 3 was supposed to be all about purple guy but scott decided to go with the redemption minigame thing instead
and on another topic entirely, Scott's modeling has gotten way better, but i always thought the first game's animatronic models kinda sucked, especially the textures
[IMG]http://puu.sh/lWauF/22f0f92a88.jpg[/IMG]
i wonder if he ever redid them, since in all other games they're portrayed as either decayed, destroyed or abstractly horrorish, which is a shame since the original designs are really great. Always loved how they nailed the "fucking terrifying but could totally see them in a cheap childrens entertainment place" look[/QUOTE]
Didn't he say something about modeling Foxy on a train ride or something? I agree the textures don't look as good, but I still like the overall look and feel of the first game the most.
According to scott's website, the book is called Five Nights at Freddy's: The Silver Eyes.
[IMG]http://www.scottgames.com/FNaF_TheNovel.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Hanso;49320913]Didn't he say something about modeling Foxy on a train ride or something? I agree the textures don't look as good, but I still like the overall look and feel of the first game the most.[/QUOTE]
The first game looked kinda bad, but that made it spookier somehow. Like bad 90s CGI.
I honestly found the style in the first game much more creepier, since it wasn't overly done. They looked like they could actually be real animatonics, whereas FNAF 2-4 look progressively more fictional.
[QUOTE=Hanso;49320913]Didn't he say something about modeling Foxy on a train ride or something? I agree the textures don't look as good, but I still like the overall look and feel of the first game the most.[/QUOTE]
no the look is my favorite too, has a great sense of isolation, the best sense of design and very sparse lighitng, but the technical execution on the animatronics is pretty bad. Not terrible, obviously it worked, but i mean look at Foxy's legs in particlular, it's just smudgy noise, and the normals detail is just nonsensical noise, he's really improved since then and i just want shiny super high detail models in vein of 4's fidelity
FNaF took a significant dip in scare factor with the Toy Animatronics. Bonnie looking disheveled was terrifying though
[QUOTE=KingKombat;49330309]FNaF took a significant dip in scare factor with the Toy Animatronics. Bonnie looking disheveled was terrifying though[/QUOTE]
The animatronics from the later games don't feel so creepy because they're more "generic scary" and less uncanny creepy. Now they're just sharp things, sharp things, sharp things, and glowing eyes with not much uncannyness.
[QUOTE=KingKombat;49330309]FNaF took a significant dip in scare factor with the Toy Animatronics. Bonnie looking disheveled was terrifying though[/QUOTE]
I really liked the way Toy Chica would lose her beak, and Toy Bonnie was just fucking unsettling on camera
Toy Freddy sucks though
Silver Eyes came out. It's really goddamn good. Gives everyone a name and everything.
Reason why it came out early? Amazon's fucky release system
Does the book throw a hole into MatPat's latest theory? It's canon right? Since it was on Scott's website.
[QUOTE=Nanori;49340343]Silver Eyes came out. It's really goddamn good. Gives everyone a name and everything.
Reason why it came out early? Amazon's fucky release system[/QUOTE]
he even fucking releases the book early
you can't leave us hanging without some sick deets man
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Five-Nights-Freddys-Silver-Eyes-ebook/dp/B019HC4EQ2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450406093&sr=8-1&keywords=five+nights+at+freddy%27s+silver+eyes[/url]
[quote]It’s been exactly ten years since the murders at Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza, and Charlotte (Charlie for short) has spent those ten years trying to forget. Her father was the owner of Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza and the creator of its four adult-sized animatronic animals, and now Charlie is returning to her hometown to reunite with her childhood friends on the anniversary of the tragedy that ripped their town apart.
Curiosity leads Charlie and her friends back to the old pizza place, and they find it hidden and sealed, but still standing. They discover a way inside, but things are not as they once were: the four mascots that delighted and entertained them as children have changed. The animatronic animals have a dark secret, and a murderous agenda. [/quote]
Dunno if the Amazon description has ever been posted.
So traditional horror story of teens deciding to sneak into a place that had murders occur previously, only to find that [i]ho shit the cause of the murders is still here[/i]
Very curious if this somehow manages to fit into the story of the games in ways we don't initially realize. I wouldn't be surprised.
I read the book, and I liked it- you can tell it was written by someone else with some of Scott's lore details, but its interesting enough to keep you engaged. Would reccomend reading if a FNAF fan.
For those who don't care and just want the details, whether canon or not, I'll post in spoilers here-
[Sp]Fazbears was started by two guys- the creator of the animatronics and the guy who gave him money to do so
Diner was first, had a bunch of springtraps (suits with optional animatronics inside for people to wear and dance around in)
Creator had two kids, young boy and girl, who he let play around in the place
One day, money guy appears dressed up as Springtrap (ofc he's the purple guy), took boy and forced him into a yellow freddy suit
Diner closes down, suits taken, place cleaned away
Girl forgets about brother and diner because trauma convenience
purple guy and creator join together again in new town (either creator didn't know or was blackmailed by purple guy) where Fazbears is created
No more springtraps, pure animatronics
purple guy waits a few years before murdering 4 kids and stuffing them into the existing animatronics
One of kids close friend to original girl and her group of friends, ptsd abound
Creator kills himself with an animatronic, purple guy is apprehended but is let go because no evidence
Ghosts of kids still haunt their bodies but are happy because they're in the suits
They hate grownups and attack them, purple guy gets away with it because he enters there in his springtrap suit
Guy leaves for a while, changes appearance (loses weight), comes back with a different identity and stays as a security guard
Town attempts to destroy the building, but purple guy convinces town to just build around the damn place with a mall (though stays desolate because people can sense how fucked up it seems
10 years after the 4 kid murders, girl comes back with her friends to have the funeral, this is where the story begins[/sp]
[sp]So the Animatronics are haunted?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Xonax;49341417][sp]So the Animatronics are haunted?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[Sp]To the point where, when they took pictures of the building after the murders, each animatronic were looking into the camera with a glint in their left eyes despite there being no flash on.[/sp]
To be honest by FNAF3 it was damn obvious [sp]the Animatronics were haunted since only insane theories could explain otherwise. The fact that Purple Guy was responsible for the Animatronics via funding would explain why he knows how to take them apart alongside his Springtrap experience, though, but the implication that the fucker may have been the character we played in the first game doesn't help matters.[/sp]
Ultimately it sounds like a few baseline theories people already had for a while got confirmed.
[QUOTE=RikohZX;49341465]To be honest by FNAF3 it was damn obvious [sp]the Animatronics were haunted since only insane theories could explain otherwise. The fact that Purple Guy was responsible for the Animatronics via funding would explain why he knows how to take them apart alongside his Springtrap experience, though, but the implication that the fucker may have been the character we played in the first game doesn't help matters.[/sp]
Ultimately it sounds like a few baseline theories people already had for a while got confirmed.[/QUOTE]
Sadly, we have no idea how canon this is- for all we know the writer was given the FNAF wiki and was told to go to town. Too many discrepancies between the games and this to say if anything is for certain, but I do agree there's probably a few things that were heavily hinted at from this ([sp]scott definitely is sticking to the ghosts theory, purple guy was most likely someone important in the company, the diner being a separate place before FNAF1's joint, and et cetera.[/sp]
Scott helped write the novel fyi.
He did the Pizzeria stuff while Karia..kara? Whatever, did the outside stuff and touched up on the pizzeria stuff.
[editline]18th December 2015[/editline]
Book is not canon.
[url]http://steamcommunity.com/app/388090/discussions/0/494632506578092413/[/url]
[QUOTE=Xonax;49341629]
[editline]18th December 2015[/editline]
Book is not canon.
[url]http://steamcommunity.com/app/388090/discussions/0/494632506578092413/[/url][/QUOTE]
Well that's a downer, I still wanna read it but this kills my interest somewhat.
[QUOTE=Xonax;49341629]
Book is not canon.
[url]http://steamcommunity.com/app/388090/discussions/0/494632506578092413/[/url][/QUOTE]
Why release a book originally tited "the untold story" and not make it 100% canon? Making that sort of thing non canon just baffles me.
[QUOTE=Bitl;49343102]Why release a book originally tited "the untold story" and not make it 100% canon? Making that sort of thing non canon just baffles me.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, it seems they got rid of that title and is now called The Silver Eyes. Still kinda shameless, but it was a good read either way. Can't say I wasted my time reading it at the very least.
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;49343514]I can't be the only one who thinks a fnaf book is a retarded idea
then again, the fnaf fanbase mindlessly eats up anything that scott throws at them whether its bad or good so I'm not that surprised[/QUOTE]
At first I thought it was a good idea because I thought it would be canon and give more insight into the fnaf world. But now that its not canon it does seem a bit silly. What was the point of Scott working so close with the writer if it wouldn't be canon? :v: That's my big problem with it. Other than that I don't mind the idea of a book too much
[QUOTE=kingstead;49343569]At first I thought it was a good idea because I thought it would be canon and give more insight into the fnaf world. But now that its not canon it does seem a bit silly. What was the point of Scott working so close with the writer if it wouldn't be canon? :v: That's my big problem with it. Other than that I don't mind the idea of a book too much[/QUOTE]
I'm just a little confused why you'd bother making a book if it will ultimately have no bearing and as a result be discarded by a large portion of the fanbase
also I love that people are debating whether or not this Kira lady is real and are indignant that Scott would tell her to hide her social media so creeps couldn't stalk and harass her, while at the same time ranting and raving about inconsistencies in the book and desperately trying to hunt down any information on her and yelling about how she clearly must have only ever googled FNAF or read a few wiki articles, completely proving his point
People also seem to be saying everything wrong with the book is her fault and not one person I've seen is hypothesizing that just maybe Scott might have made some kind of error
If Kira wasn't real and had anything to do with anything with the plot people would have found it by now :v:
Just finished it. It's a good book but a bad Freddy's book
It's kinda like how the Resident Evil movies go off on their own thing. Only good.
So with all this I have two questions:
How non-canon is the book? As in is just the main event [sp]teens searching the building?[/sp] non-canon but the backstory is canon? Or is the whole thing, backstory and all, out of the canon lore?
And if so, does that mean that all the games are not really as connected as we wanted them to be? Following MatPat's latest theory, is it all as illogical as the medium can make it to be (dreams, AU's, point of view, etc.)? Scott himself said something of the sort that the timeline involves AUs.
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;49343514]I can't be the only one who thinks a fnaf book is a retarded idea
then again, the fnaf fanbase mindlessly eats up anything that scott throws at them whether its bad or good so I'm not that surprised[/QUOTE]
I feel like I'm the only one who hasn't bought any FNAF products but still enjoys the general concept enough to watch a FNAF related video every now and again.
[QUOTE=Sleeping One;49347225]So with all this I have two questions:
How non-canon is the book? As in is just the main event [sp]teens searching the building?[/sp] non-canon but the backstory is canon? Or is the whole thing, backstory and all, out of the canon lore?
And if so, does that mean that all the games are not really as connected as we wanted them to be? Following MatPat's latest theory, is it all as illogical as the medium can make it to be (dreams, AU's, point of view, etc.)? Scott himself said something of the sort that the timeline involves AUs.[/QUOTE]
It's murky.
[sp]It mostly focuses on the murder stuff, so the FNAF 1 restaurant and Fredbear's, Springtrap and all those are in. There's no mention at all about the building from 2, or the Bite, or Phone Guy. The only thing directly contradictory is the fact that the murderer died in Springtrap due to other people, not to an unlucky break with the suit.[/sp]
Basically you can look at the backstory as canon if you want, it doesn't really affect anything. It's kinda off in its own place, but it has enough interesting things that you could get away with saying the backstory is canon
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