Hydroid is neat to play and great to have for resource farming but imo not all that great. Saryn is an amazing top tier frame though, so they wouldn't be a bad investment despite taking forever to obtain now with the kela changes
Worth adding that there isn't any frames right now that aren't worth using ever, imo. Oberon and Hydroid are probably the worst, but both still work just fine; there's just better options out there.
edit: also I would recommend Zephyr but just be aware that she's kind of an odd frame
She's a tankish frame with good (but strange) mobility and pretty good CC; it's fun just getting used to how she plays
Zephyr is still one of my favorites. She was my absolute favorite until Ivara. And in terms of gameplay there is literally none better than her. She tanks obscenely well with high health and shields and the ability to support rejuvenation by default. And her turbulence makes her virtually immune to any ranged attacks. And with her reduced weight, she can stay airborne longer and is thereby much harder to hit. She can knock down crowds damn well, and her tornadoes are fantastic for keeping a room safe by keeping enemies from ever touching the ground. And her speed means you can tear ass around levels.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50857265]Zephyr is still one of my favorites. She was my absolute favorite until Ivara. And in terms of gameplay there is literally none better than her. She tanks obscenely well with high health and shields and the ability to support rejuvenation by default. And her turbulence makes her virtually immune to any ranged attacks. And with her reduced weight, she can stay airborne longer and is thereby much harder to hit. She can knock down crowds damn well, and her tornadoes are fantastic for keeping a room safe by keeping enemies from ever touching the ground. And her speed means you can tear ass around levels.[/QUOTE]
There was always a certain charm to calmly rezzing people in T4, watching bullets whiz past harmlessly
[QUOTE=Roman Candle;50857321]There was always a certain charm to calmly rezzing people in T4, watching bullets whiz past harmlessly[/QUOTE]
not to mention the mess of bodies being thrown about by the tornados
Guess I'm going for Zephyr next then, thanks everyone. She looks pretty damn awesome.
when you get down further in the road you should look into making an Oberon too.
sure he's not the strongest and he can't really fill any particular role but it's because of that he's so much fun, he's got decent balance and radiation procs are always good
Now if only DE would listen to their fans once and make the Renewal lasts the whole duration instead of stopping at full health
I would main Oberon immediately, not that I would Forma him 4 times ha ha no way
oberon could have something similiar to overhealing with his renewal too??????? that'd be a cool buff to him,
honestly i think oberon should be completely redone
trinity is already such a good healer that there's no way he could ever compete
make him focused around buffing teammates and himself or something
Note that Trinity's Blessing has been severely nerfed with 75% Damage Reduction cap and 50m Range.
lmao DE who thought this would be a great idea
That is the reason why I want Oberon's Renewal to lasts its whole duration AND the channeling energy is not affected by negative Power Duration because fuck [B]8.5 Energy/s[/B].
trinity's range needed to be nerfed, and I'd honestly rather have a constant 75% damage resistance up every 12 seconds or so instead of a 99% where there's risk of my teammates or me dying before I could cast it every now and then
I mean, Oberon isn't really dedicated as a healer, I don't really see why he's always compared to her.
Healing is healing and it's good enough for me, I'd have liked if it did what his augment does and buff teammates with extra damage rather than resistance. Or at least radiation buff if the weapon doesn't have an element on it.
hallowed ground is still weird to me because it's meant to damage enemies and etc but if they can run right through it why bother, give it a root effect and it'd be perfect.
overall he'd probably benefit from a mag treatment and have more bonuses based around combinations of his abilities and radiation
[QUOTE=_charon;50857791]honestly i think oberon should be completely redone
trinity is already such a good healer that there's no way he could ever compete
make him focused around buffing teammates and himself or something[/QUOTE]
I've always thought a great change (or augment) would be to make Hallowed ground circlular and follow him around, making Oberon a mobile Armour-Buff/Damage dealer
We have Chroma for that, so I think adding some slow or at least make the area larger (and making length and width somewhat equal) would be great. Right now with maxed range the width is 10m wtf
I personally really don't want DE to remake warframes, I want them to improve upon what's already there.
Unless it's an ability that doesn't really work for the game anymore like Super Jump, DE has a high chance of completely changing what kind of warframe it is when they remake something.
Excalibur is 100% about damage now when he used to be control focused which I felt was a really good choice for starter players, to see how useful it is to control the battlefield instead of just BIG NUMBERS, but since this change turning excalibur into a damage focused warframe most new players I meet are just trying to get the best DPS builds for their tonkors as soon as possible, then they get bored because they feel that's as good as it's going to get.
Like Hydroid, all his animations need him to stand still before cast, even his charging attack.
Give him a passive so he doesn't take physical damage while he's surrounded in water (the animation which happens each time he's casting).
Hydroids[B] 1 [/B]can change depending on your weapon. Launcher is explosive salvo with chance of explosive proc, sniper is 100% accuracy from each salvo so you can't waste energy on an ability and be so unlucky it actually misses all that pass through it, rifles make the salvo shoot 3 for each 1 that would have shot which are shot in a burst shot, bow is 100% silenced salvo with high chance of status.
His[B] 2 [/B]should be able to be ended by clicking 2 again during the ability so you don't spend 2 seconds charging then 5 seconds rubbing against a wall, destroys objects in its path, adds to melee combo counter, allows you to travel through things that need you to crouch.
His[B] 3 [/B]should let you click on enemies which multiplies your abilities cost per second - but sends out tentacles to pull in your targets into the undertow, can move slowly (like 25% of original speed) and reduces size whilst moving, move your camera more than horizontally, cameras & lasers shouldn't detect you while you're water, absorb projectiles and cause them to deal damage to enemies in water (grenades thrown and such), deal % damage to enemies, multiplying for how many enemies are in the puddle.
His swarm, his [B]4[/B] is as bad as his 1 right now since it's possible to not hit anyone due to RNG, making the cast worthless. So if a tentacle does not deal damage to anything for 20% of its duration it will despawn & respawn on a new location where there are targets, causing them to wander a bit in their area & be far more useful. Then they should also hold onto enemies, suffocating & crushing them not flopping them about making them terrible to shoot. People don't like playing with Hydroids for this reason, same as Zephyr, while it's good control it's annoying when your enemies are flying across the screen and moving at unnatural speeds.
Oberons passive should be damage reduction for those in his tenno affinity range since he's all about armouring up & avoiding death.
His smite, [B]1[/B], should have the projectiles return to you with a small amount of the armour & overshields/shields from the enemy which decay over time depending on your duration & deal Finisher damage to enemies who have been struck by Reckoning, [B]2[/B] should be severely buffed statwise since people are stacking at least 5 of them before they can be useful and it's just not good for performance and it looks really bad, it could be a range cast, circular, the armour you gain from standing in it & the buff to be immune against knockdowns & status all status procs should stay for a while not be deleted as soon as one foot it out of the consecration, allies will see exactly how much armour they're getting from standing in it & there's a visual representation in the buff area for it, STATIC number for the armour buff instead of % since right now he's only giving worthwhile armour buffs to frames who already have good armour and all weak frames are getting next to nothing for their low armour which is counter-intuitive, the hallow ground expands, growing for your duration but the speed of growth cannot be change by another stat however range will of course set which base width itll have.
His [B]3[/B], his healing ability should be able to be cast whilst running, heals operatives, companions, rescue targets and that kind of thing as well, only stops applying & stops casting if you manually disable it or run out of energy.
His [B]4[/B], reckoning which is what modern oberon players exclusively use him for should have increased blind range, most people don't even know it's a thing because it's so so small and you can't even use it wisely because it's so small it might as well be 1% to blind enemies, enemies who are struck down with reckoning receive a mark which makes them have a chance to drop health orbs upon being killed. You don't need to deal fatal damage with your lowgrade ability to enemies level 150+ for the ability to be used to its full potential with this change, it makes it scale infinitely.
I fully agree with your post. But ideas are just ideas and the main thing is that DE just doesn't seem to care about frames anymore because they are too focused on the new updates and Steam Workshop (honestly why) atm.
If anything they'll nerf frames more instead of buffing them.
Also not balancing related, I hate not being able to search for parts when you are in the Relics screen. And selecting Relics for a mission is still buggy as fuck and requires too many clicks and cursor movement. Like, you click on a Fissure node, now move your cursor to pick your Relic, then move the cursor back to "Equip Relic", then move back for the confirmation. Minus points if it's a multi-node.
[QUOTE=rikimaru6811;50859669]I fully agree with your post. But ideas are just ideas and the main thing is that DE just doesn't seem to care about frames anymore because they are too focused on the new updates and Steam Workshop (honestly why) atm.
If anything they'll nerf frames more instead of buffing them.
Also not balancing related, I hate not being able to search for parts when you are in the Relics screen. And selecting Relics for a mission is still buggy as fuck and requires too many clicks and cursor movement. Like, you click on a Fissure node, now move your cursor to pick your Relic, then move the cursor back to "Equip Relic", then move back for the confirmation. Minus points if it's a multi-node.[/QUOTE]
Then squad immediately abandons once you're done with selection and you have to re-do it for another attempt.
Does anybody know the average prices for Arcane Helmets? I've been trying to sell mine for a long time to get some quick platinum, but I always tend to overprice them, and in the end I never get to sell them. But I'm also kind of afraid to lowball.
[QUOTE]Aura
Aurora
Essence
Hemlock
Locust
Menticide
Pulse
Storm
Thrak
Vanguard[/QUOTE]
These are the Arcanes I own. I know Vanguard is supposed to be one of the most wanted ones, but even then it's hard to get a sale.
Toss em up on warframe.market and wait a while, you'll get a buyer for your price eventually if its reasonable.
[QUOTE=trollbuster;50859843]Toss em up on warframe.market and wait a while, you'll get a buyer for your price eventually if its reasonable.[/QUOTE]
I did that as well, but there's always somebody cheaper than me.
[QUOTE=Ax3l;50859854]I did that as well, but there's always somebody cheaper than me.[/QUOTE]
wfmarket is full of undercutters, but the undercutters sell quickly. You'll quickly be the lowest.
Is there any ETA for any form of update?
[QUOTE=Excalibuurr;50860246]Yeah, I'm about to go pick up lunch soon before sorties.[/QUOTE]
That is cool, keep us updated on what do you decide to have for lunch.
I sure hope he doesn't get a cold cut sandwich
Four more nitain until Vauban Prime. Fuck this stupid resource, it makes me watch the alert twitter constantly. There is no excuse for something that bad, no excuse
[QUOTE=Zeos;50860823]Four more nitain until Vauban Prime. Fuck this stupid resource, it makes me watch the alert twitter constantly. There is no excuse for something that bad, no excuse[/QUOTE]
Just get a smartphone app
[QUOTE=Zeos;50860823]Four more nitain until Vauban Prime. Fuck this stupid resource, it makes me watch the alert twitter constantly. There is no excuse for something that bad, no excuse[/QUOTE]
Just buy a 400+ euro smartphone man so you can get an app which might or might not tell you when it happens and you should already be at home by the computer when it happens.
Deathsnacks.
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