The only way to get T5 keys will be through T4 interception.
It's so true that Corpus is the biggest BS faction in the game atm. I remember the time when Corpus was my favorite faction to play against. Nowadays it's just a complete joke to try to enjoy the higher level rounds of Corpus.
[QUOTE=SoftHearted;50163092][video=youtube;bYdCGV4M7Eo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYdCGV4M7Eo[/video][/QUOTE]
Complaining about nullifiers, really? Were getting a Miter augment that pops their bubbles. Y'know, the gun you see someone bring to a lobby everytime? Well, every time as in once in a life time.
do people genuinely have a problem with nullifiers
even as a devout valkyr player, nullifiers mean nothing
So do I actually need people to create my own clan or can I do it? I'm pretty much dedicated to playing solo sans a few pub games when doing survival and all the good shit looks to be locked behind the clan research system.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50163404]do people genuinely have a problem with nullifiers
even as a devout valkyr player, nullifiers mean nothing[/QUOTE]
They're not hard to deal with but they are objectively a bad enemy design.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50163404]do people genuinely have a problem with nullifiers
even as a devout valkyr player, nullifiers mean nothing[/QUOTE]
Taking care of one is easy
But try taking care of 5 in a enclosed hallway.
[QUOTE=spekter;50163417]So do I actually need people to create my own clan or can I do it? I'm pretty much dedicated to playing solo sans a few pub games when doing survival and all the good shit looks to be locked behind the clan research system.[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind that the resources it will take to research everything are so filthy high that it'll be prohibitively difficult for you to get a huge amount of the things unlocked early in the games, not to mention the resources needed to craft them or the resource cost to make the dojo (good luck with all the forma). It's a much better idea to join someone else's clan.
Source: I have my own clan that I built and unlocked everything in mostly by myself
[QUOTE=lxmach1;50163424]They're not hard to deal with but they are objectively a bad enemy design.[/QUOTE]
I think they're fine. It would be terrible if you could easily just spam powers all the time.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;50163428]Taking care of one is easy
But try taking care of 5 in a enclosed hallway.[/QUOTE]
W + CTRL + E (x3)
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50163404]do people genuinely have a problem with nullifiers
even as a devout valkyr player, nullifiers mean nothing[/QUOTE]
valkyr 4 lyf
[QUOTE=lxmach1;50163424]They're not hard to deal with but they are objectively a bad enemy design.[/QUOTE]
Yeah basically, if they're needed for balance why is some form of nullification present in all mission types and if they're not needed for balance why did you put such a frustrating enemy in that just serves to fuck specific warframes really hard and others barely at all v:v:v
[QUOTE=Darth_Toast;50158143]I think they're adding one that gives it a 90% chance to pop nullifier bubbles.[/QUOTE]
Now, I'd just like to point out one thing.
it's that this augment, if it does come out
just does what every gun does but instantly on a percent chance, and takes up a mod slot
and still doesn't make it good
[editline]19th April 2016[/editline]
wouldn't it have made more sense to put it on a boltor anyways who the fuck uses knives and cutting shit to pop bubbles you just poke the things
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50163491]W + CTRL + E (x3)[/QUOTE]
Even if your valkyr build is filthy good no amount of armour is going to save you from sortie 3 rape when you're in a giant mesh of nullifiers if your tactic is "just melee them"
daily reminder that high level nullifiers, like sniper crewmen, can one shot moderate to lower armored frames and are amazingly accurate up close with that lanka even though supposedly enemies with sniper rifle type weapons were supposed to have horrible close range aiming!
[editline]19th April 2016[/editline]
A nullifier -of all things- should not be able to one shot anything.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50163491]I think they're fine. It would be terrible if you could easily just spam powers all the time.
W + CTRL + E (x3)[/QUOTE]
They are far from fine. Sure you can just say how they prevent ability spamming, but they do so much more than that. They cover a large radius with their bubble which shields all enemies inside of it from damage and from ability effects. Also they are a COMMON enemy type which means that there could be 5 or 6 nullies coming towards you with few eximus units, few heavy gunners and a Bursa underneath their bubbles. Sure you can deal with them in early levels, but that's not the point.
Also I'd like to point out that some Warframes are strongly dependent on their abilities to simply stay alive. And currently Corpus has simply way too units that prevent you from using them.
They really are one the most annoying units in the game.
If T5 void comes out, I wan't corrupted Bursas, Combas and Sapping Ospreys in there too.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50163491]I think they're fine. It would be terrible if you could easily just spam powers all the time.[/QUOTE]
Except they also block all projectiles and AoE damage
and the bubbles are affected by number of shots, not damage so high-power rifles and shotguns suffer hugely in late levels
and they shield other enemies that can fuck your shit up at close range, so going in melee is suicide
and they have sniper rifles, so they can insta-kill you at far range at later levels
and they remove buffs, so frames that rely on self-buffing ie Inaros, Rhino, Loki, Limbo, Mirage, Nezha, Nova, Valkyr, and Wukong are all shafted if a nullifier decides to hop down at the speed of light or sprint at you with their sponge-ass bubble
and their bubble removes any debuff for any enemy that runs in or gets touched while the nullifier is sprinting towards you
and their bubbles stack so fighting more than one becomes a huge pain in the ass
If you think ability spam was such a huge issue, then they should rebalance abilities instead of adding broken unfun enemies.
Also their shield regeneration is really fast. So you have to kill the nullifier as fast as possible so you can't really target any other threats at the same time.
In short the nullifier has way too much stuff stacked on one enemy unit which makes them so broken.
I think it would be less broken if they were split into 2 different enemies rather than 1 massive denier.
One of them having a shield that only disables abilities, while the other only stops projectiles.
Give them a different colour shield to tell apart and I would be fine with them.
Also what the fuck, why would you make a shield just be able to walk off 100k shotgun blasts???
[QUOTE=Judqment8;50160184]I've never seen a person to do that. The players who top the charts are usually the ones with most kills as well. Unless it's capture then of course the caps are more important.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure I've gotten 3rd place or so with only 2 kills while people in 4th and beyond have 5 - 10 kills, because it is way too rewarding being a wuss in free for all PVP in warframe.
Honestly I think the biggest issue with Nullifiers is the ability blocking. We have [i]way[/i] too many ways for enemies to completely fuck over a frame's ability to cast abilities. Parasitic Eximus which drain energy (and are one of very, very few valid Eximus types for Infected), the (fortunately former) Shock Eximus with their Mag procs (which completely drained [i]both[/i] shields and energy), Magnetic procs from Grineer Sensor Bars, Bursas, Combas, Nightmares missions with Energy drain, Sorties with Energy Reduction....
And yet we have... two ways of removing the ability to shoot? Shields like the Shield Lancer or Nullifier, and Drahk Master's ability to disarm.
As someone who prefers to play caster-types, it makes me sad to have all my time and effort spent making sure I can actually cast regularly (some people might consider it spam) via modding utterly ruined in an instant. Especially with how common some of these are and how some of them can honestly come out of the blue.
[QUOTE=biodude94566;50164190]Honestly I think the biggest issue with Nullifiers is the ability blocking. We have [i]way[/i] too many ways for enemies to completely fuck over a frame's ability to cast abilities. Parasitic Eximus which drain energy (and are one of very, very few valid Eximus types for Infected), the (fortunately former) Shock Eximus with their Mag procs (which completely drained [i]both[/i] shields and energy), Magnetic procs from Grineer Sensor Bars, Bursas, Combas, Nightmares missions with Energy drain, Sorties with Energy Reduction....
And yet we have... two ways of removing the ability to shoot? Shields like the Shield Lancer or Nullifier, and Drahk Master's ability to disarm.
As someone who prefers to play caster-types, it makes me sad to have all my time and effort spent making sure I can actually cast regularly (some people might consider it spam) via modding utterly ruined in an instant. Especially with how common some of these are and how some of them can honestly come out of the blue.[/QUOTE]
Poor Ivara is absolutely destroyed any time an Energy Leech or Nullifier comes around, she's just not capable of surviving without abilities.
It seems silly to have gameplay based around each frame's abilities then spend all your time creating enemies to remove those abilities.
imagine if nullifier's bubble scale with the shield
Please no.
[QUOTE=Super2Donny;50164703]imagine if nullifier's bubble scale with the shield[/QUOTE]
whoah slow down there satan
Just finished up yesterday's shotgun Sortie. That was ass. My first attempt failed due to a pub with speed nova, the second had a slow nova, which made things easier. I still had to carry everyone with Ash though.
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I finally got my own Limbo.
Time to make everyone's lives miserable.
[QUOTE=SoftHearted;50167575]I finally got my own Limbo.
Time to make everyone's lives miserable.[/QUOTE]
Remember when you could switch teleport players with Loki? Those were the times.
I used 5 Wukong Juice to create a Nezha cosmetic helmet.
I've really lost my mind.
[editline]20th April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=brenz;50163614]If T5 void comes out, I wan't corrupted Bursas, [/QUOTE]
corrupted bursa, if this becomes true I will slit my wrists.
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