Black Mesa Source V5 - "They're still working on Xen?" - Games

[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;42916461]Don't you even dare say that And they said they had "moved to SDK 2013 with few problems"[/QUOTE] Source SDK 2013 is for the FREE version. The paid Steam version is on a different engine, they are not allowed to say which.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;42916568]Source SDK 2013 is for the FREE version. The paid Steam version is on a different engine, they are not allowed to say which.[/QUOTE] what other engine wouldn't they be able to talk about?

[QUOTE=psikobare;42917134]what other engine wouldn't they be able to talk about?[/QUOTE] You've got a point there. Still, it is probably the Portal 2 branch of the engine.

Ah this is fantastic, nice to hear some proper news. They've definitely got my money, couldn't be going towards a more deserving bunch of people.

I hope the paid version will be on [B]Source 2 engine.[/B] :dance:

half life 3 bundled with bm source 2 called it

[QUOTE=Myth Alex;42917361]I hope the paid version will be on [B]Source 2 engine.[/B] :dance:[/QUOTE] I doubt they would release their new engine on a non-first party game. [editline]19th November 2013[/editline] The reason why they were forced to change engines is because it is forbidden to sell games on the SDK engine. [url]http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showpost.php?p=564063&postcount=46[/url]

I thought one of the reasons why they have, in the past, denied it would go retail was because of the clusterfuck it would be to find everyone who has worked on this project and pay them for their work? [URL="http://wiki.blackmesasource.com/General_FAQ#How_much_does_Black_Mesa_cost.3F"][IMG]http://u.cubeupload.com/richard9311/Heh.png[/IMG][/URL]

[QUOTE=Tuskin;42917183]You've got a point there. Still, it is probably the Portal 2 branch of the engine.[/QUOTE]Dear Esther and The Stanley Parable were games licensed under the Portal 2 engine, and weren't under any sort of NDA like this. But they did explicitly say "full access to the Source engine", in which case if they did have some secret deal to develop on Source 2, they probably wouldn't want to throw out phrases like that. So I'm not sure what's going on with that.

I really want to whine and bitch about this change, I feel like I've been lied to. And after waiting so long for this. But ultimately, I can understand where they come from. And they're still offering an updated free version, so I really have no right to complain.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;42917478]I doubt they would release their new engine on a non-first party game.[/QUOTE] You're right, but things can be different. Maybe the (paid) game will be on Source 2. Or maybe not. Nobody knows this.

[QUOTE=Myth Alex;42918034]You're right, but things can be different. Maybe the (paid) game will be on Source 2. Or maybe not. Nobody knows this.[/QUOTE] We already know the Free version is on SDK 2013.

I just want dynamic shadows for the map lighting. [QUOTE=Twinsen]I have waiting for this since 2007-2008; I promised to don´t play your mod if I could see something disgusting in your mod or you couldn't finish it for 2012; I broke that promises, because at the end, I thought that I should have my own opinion about your mod. In the other hand, I doubt a lot, that any developer of this mod or most of fans from this forum have finished Half-Life so times like me, or played it like me each time I've started a "new game". And now, I have only a rthorical question to you: Why did you risk the future of Half-Life, bringing us a mod with some,but important mistakes plot? Now, thanks to your work, some people thinks that they can replace Half-Life with your mod. And your mod have teached me, that you have no idea about Half-Life. Very sad, that most of your fans will never know their blindness by the VALVe's source. That's ironic. You did a grate visual work, but that, are all the good words that I can say you, but the fact is that I fear that you have destroyed the future of Half-Life. So,please, can you quit my profile from this forum, or say me how can I do it by myself? Because, I can´t find any way to do it by myself... yet. By the way, I can´t understand why VALVe are supporting you. But, seeing your work, after all this time, I think that is for a marketing issue and because you have, unfortunately, green light in Greenlight. Finally, don´t worry, I know that all of you will think that VALVe, is supporting you, because I am wrong. But, I repeat that you probably have not finished Half-Life so times like me, to understand my point of view. I only know that I can understand more thinks through Half-life, than trough your mod. And now, thanks to you, some people will never could have the opportunity to understand correctly the story of Half-Life. If I am wrong, sorry a lot, but that, will only mean that Half-Life wasn't so good like I thought.[/QUOTE] [url]http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showpost.php?p=564062&postcount=152[/url] lol

[QUOTE=Bloodshot12;42918294]I just want dynamic shadows for the map lighting. [url]http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showpost.php?p=564062&postcount=152[/url] lol[/QUOTE] What the fuck did I just read

[QUOTE=Bloodshot12;42918294]-quotey stuff- lol[/QUOTE] Black Mesa: Raphael Edition

The Greenlight comments are filled with people who apparently have not read the news or are in denial. [editline]19th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Smug Bastard;42918335]What the fuck did I just read[/QUOTE] If I understand correctly, hes afraid Black Mesa will replace the original Half-Life.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;42917478]I doubt they would release their new engine on a non-first party game.[/QUOTE] maybe valve's new game featuring the new engine will be out before BM is on available on steam :optimistic:

The BM devs are gonna open up more. Finally. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/WdxKKES.png[/IMG] [url]http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showpost.php?p=564141&postcount=89[/url]

[t]http://i4.minus.com/i2ljFoSV18rCn.jpg[/t] Damn

Well, this is actually great. I was a bit saddened when it occurred to me that the Steam version won't have fancy Portal 2 shadows and probably won't have updated HECU AI, but now that I know they have full control over the engine I am extremely optimistic. Optimisation and lighting are sure to come. [sp]still not sure about the AI though[/sp]

I'd with full engine access they will be able to clean some things up. Like they said they won't have to work around as much.

I hope the HECU AI is leagues better. Or the AI in general, but the HECU AI stands out as dumb..

[QUOTE=richard9311;42917775]I thought one of the reasons why they have, in the past, denied it would go retail was because of the clusterfuck it would be to find everyone who has worked on this project and pay them for their work? [URL="http://wiki.blackmesasource.com/General_FAQ#How_much_does_Black_Mesa_cost.3F"][IMG]http://u.cubeupload.com/richard9311/Heh.png[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE] The picture you posted. The major reason they cite for why it won't be a paid game is because it would be illegal. With their deal with Valve, it is no longer illegal. I fail to see the issue. [editline]20th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Tuskin;42918388]If I understand correctly, hes afraid Black Mesa will replace the original Half-Life.[/QUOTE] "oh no the game is too good i hope the developers make it less fun." [editline]20th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Terin7;42889365]I'm sure people who grew up with games that had crouch jumping have told him what a scumbag he is multiple times for not knowing about it.[/QUOTE] You don't know DSP very well, do you.

I wonder if the paid version will be slightly different in either gameplay or mapping might be interesting to keep the mod version installed incase there are big changes

[QUOTE=Hell-met;42924190]I wonder if the paid version will be slightly different in either gameplay or mapping might be interesting to keep the mod version installed incase there are big changes[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'll wait till I see the changes before I make any decisions.

[QUOTE=halfer;42923303]Well, this is actually great. I was a bit saddened when it occurred to me that the Steam version won't have fancy Portal 2 shadows and probably won't have updated HECU AI, but now that I know they have full control over the engine I am extremely optimistic. Optimisation and lighting are sure to come. [sp]still not sure about the AI though[/sp][/QUOTE] Pretty sure the HECU AI is being looked at.

So since they are trying to open BM up to modding, maybe we could see some really cool stuff like new gamemodes for MP. I'd like to see a Xenians vs HECU asymmetrical MP mode made, that would be pretty cool. Of course more elaborate gore would be cool too, where you could blow off body parts instead of just have enemies explode like HL1.

I liked the ridiculous gib system. It gave the game a bit of narm, which was an important part of Half-Life

I just hope the HECU don't have 100% accurate aimbot in the new version

That's pretty easily fixable with some convars so I'd imagine it'd go along with whatever AI improvements they are making.