Half-Life and Portal series, general discussion (v6)
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[QUOTE=TheTrainRider;47098930]Frankly, the benefit of Gordon Freeman is that he has no character at all, and thus can be anything you want him to be. He [I]is[/I] the player, irregardless of what the generalized fan personality describes him as.[/QUOTE]
That's what I love about the series, I always thought of Gordon as an awkward, but maybe funny at times, type of guy who was put into a situation way above his head and he manages to get through it by luck/wits/pure determination to survive.
I also believe he feels guilty about having something to do with the resonance cascade
Gordon isn't low-level.
His job is that of a pack mule, yes, but at least he's a very highly trained pack mule with lots of clearance.
He's a highly trained professional.
my portals in portal 1/2 look like blue/orange circles made in paint and i have no idea why, even though i've turned the settings on max.
edit i feel it appropriate to mention that the girl (CyhAnide) who was working on chell's mind is back on youtube and is commenting on her newest video about chell's mind 6
[QUOTE=Fort83;47100285]Anyone could've raised an objection and refused to work if they felt the experiment was unsafe. A few scientists even spoke about their doubt. Gordon could've refused to play a part in the experiment if he felt it was a risk. He was basically the one at the switch, so a part of the responsibility is on him, along with the other scientists.[/QUOTE]
But then whoever refused would be fired, since Breen was eager to see the results from the crystal that he went through "some lengths" to get, and they spent all morning preparing for it. If you just went "Yeah, nah" and walked out, you'd probably be fired on the spot and the next guy down would take your place. In that case, you wouldn't even [I]have[/I] the Hazard Suit at the start of the resonance cascade.
Episode 2 is updating everytime I log into Steam, and I don't know why.
The only person who's at fault for the resonance cascade is the gman, for intentionally supplying the faulty crystal - and perhaps Breen, depending on whether he knew if the crystal would cause the cascade or not (it's possible that the gman promised Breen he could be the leader of the new world).
I'm more confused by the GMan's intentions in all of this. What did he hope to accomplish with the Cascade, beyond bringing the Combine to Earth and fucking everyone over? I wouldn't think it'd just be for shits and giggles.
[QUOTE=Marcolade;47102821]I'm more confused by the GMan's intentions in all of this. What did he hope to accomplish with the Cascade, beyond bringing the Combine to Earth and fucking everyone over? I wouldn't think it'd just be for shits and giggles.[/QUOTE]
Use Gordon to beat both the Nihilanth and the Combine? It's also possible that G-man is using Freeman to satisfy two separate jobs from two different employers in Half Life 1 and Half Life 2
[QUOTE=Marcolade;47102821]I'm more confused by the GMan's intentions in all of this. What did he hope to accomplish with the Cascade, beyond bringing the Combine to Earth and fucking everyone over? I wouldn't think it'd just be for shits and giggles.[/QUOTE]
He wanted to find a new 'employee' - Gordon. The whole thing was set up as an elaborate training course for Gordon. If he rose to the occasion, fought his way through Black Mesa and killed the Nihilanth, he proved himself to be worth the G-man's time. If he failed, the G-man would have no use for him, hence the "evaluation terminated" game over screens.
Everyone who directly participated in the experiment, and had voiced doubts, are responsible.
I just took a course in engineering ethics; which I think would easily apply to other STEM fields. If you, at any level in a process, find with sound engineering (or scientific) judgement that what you are doing is unsafe; or what you are developing is unsafe, you immediately stop. Next you consult colleges about their opinions and discuss options. After talking with them, and if coming to the conclusion what you are doing is unsafe, you bring it up to your supervisor with proper documentation. Documentation that you have made copies of. If your supervisor does not listen, you go up the chain. You keep going up the chain until they stop ignoring you, one way or the other. Even if it may result in your termination, it is the ethically right thing to do. If, after termination, you still note no change in the toxic management that continues to allow the danger, it becomes a grey area whether you leak to the press or not.
Assuming Gordon Freeman went over the procedure/experiment with colleges before it started, was then informed the experiment would go over the Factor of Safety by 1.2, and decided to continue the experiment, he would be just as responsible as the administration that perpetuated the faulty experiment.
He would hold no responsibility if he voiced his objections, and the experiment carried on without his consent as the one performing it.
There is no such thing as an accident.
[editline]8th February 2015[/editline]
tl;dr If you know something is wrong and go through with it, you're at fault
[QUOTE=richard9311;47103250]Everyone who directly participated in the experiment, and had voiced doubts, are responsible.
I just took a course in engineering ethics; which I think would easily apply to other STEM fields. If you, at any level in a process, find with sound engineering (or scientific) judgement that what you are doing is unsafe; or what you are developing is unsafe, you immediately stop. Next you consult colleges about their options. After talking with them, and if coming to the conclusion what you are doing is unsafe, you bring it up to your supervisor with proper documentation. Documentation that you have made copies of. If your supervisor does not listen, you go up the chain. You keep going up the chain until they stop ignoring you, one way or the other. Even if it may result in your termination, it is the ethically right thing to do. If, after termination, you still note no change in the toxic management that continues to allow the danger, it becomes a grey area whether you leak to the press or not.
Assuming Gordon Freeman went over the procedure/experiment with colleges before it started, was then informed the experiment would go over the Factor of Safety by 1.2, and decided to continue the experiment, he would be just as responsible as the administration that perpetuated the faulty experiment.
He would hold no responsibility if he [B]voiced his objections[/B], and the experiment carried on without his consent as the one performing it.
There is no such thing as an accident.
[editline]8th February 2015[/editline]
tl;dr If you know something is wrong and go through with it, you're at fault[/QUOTE]
But Gordon doesn't speak :downs:
[QUOTE=Falkok15;47103272]But Gordon doesn't speak :downs:[/QUOTE]
Damn! You got me!
[editline]8th February 2015[/editline]
I guess that's why he's the perfect fall guy. Can't speak up for himself.
Well Black Mesa is already a deathtrap factory that would make OSHA have a heart attack if they saw it
i want to get into hl2 but i'm not sure if it's for me
i like portal and tf2 but i'm just not compelled to play like i was with those two
any particularly funny moments in them? i like the humor in portal a lot
no idea why this was voted dumb for wanting an opinion
Half-Life is literally the biggest comedy game in existence, guy
black mesa hires non-union immigrant workers to build unnecessarily extravagant and dangerous sections of the facility to get higher government grant money, then disposes of the workers in xen with no trace they were ever there. the perfect crime
[QUOTE=richard9311;47103250]Everyone who directly participated in the experiment, and had voiced doubts, are responsible.
I just took a course in engineering ethics; which I think would easily apply to other STEM fields. If you, at any level in a process, find with sound engineering (or scientific) judgement that what you are doing is unsafe; or what you are developing is unsafe, you immediately stop. Next you consult colleges about their options. After talking with them, and if coming to the conclusion what you are doing is unsafe, you bring it up to your supervisor with proper documentation. Documentation that you have made copies of. If your supervisor does not listen, you go up the chain. You keep going up the chain until they stop ignoring you, one way or the other. Even if it may result in your termination, it is the ethically right thing to do. If, after termination, you still note no change in the toxic management that continues to allow the danger, it becomes a grey area whether you leak to the press or not.
Assuming Gordon Freeman went over the procedure/experiment with colleges before it started, was then informed the experiment would go over the Factor of Safety by 1.2, and decided to continue the experiment, he would be just as responsible as the administration that perpetuated the faulty experiment.
He would hold no responsibility if he voiced his objections, and the experiment carried on without his consent as the one performing it.
There is no such thing as an accident.
[editline]8th February 2015[/editline]
tl;dr If you know something is wrong and go through with it, you're at fault[/QUOTE]
There should be a second pathway in Black Mesa where if you refuse, you are taken away to the jail, and have to fight your way out of it after the incident happens. Then it will converge into office complex.
Saw this on a youtube video, decided to share it with you.
[IMG]http://i.imgbox.com/qSETCtcO.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Marcolade;47102821]I'm more confused by the GMan's intentions in all of this. What did he hope to accomplish with the Cascade, beyond bringing the Combine to Earth and fucking everyone over? I wouldn't think it'd just be for shits and giggles.[/QUOTE]
So he can sing [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8]this[/url]?
[QUOTE=Cone;47105532]black mesa hires non-union immigrant workers to build unnecessarily extravagant and dangerous sections of the facility to get higher government grant money, then disposes of the workers in xen with no trace they were ever there. the perfect crime[/QUOTE]
That must explain why there are some many dead HEV-suits in Xen.
[QUOTE=Sn0peK;47106028]Saw this on a youtube video, decided to share it with you.
[IMG]http://i.imgbox.com/qSETCtcO.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
That's the new Valve intro FYI
What if G-Man is only helping Gordon Freeman to get the Xen races and the combine out of the picture, and pave way for his own "employer"
[QUOTE=Pyraax;47106494]That's the new Valve intro FYI[/QUOTE]
That isn't even used in TF2.
[QUOTE=Karmal Khan;47107683]That isn't even used in TF2.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't it patched to CSGO, but then removed a short while later?
[QUOTE=PacifistHeavy;47107754]Wasn't it patched to CSGO, but then removed a short while later?[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;GcjvgrPvd00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcjvgrPvd00[/video]
This has never been used in live GO, but was it used in the 2011/2012 beta?
I remember seeing that intro in Portal 2... seeing the man move really scared the piss out of me.
[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;47108513][video=youtube;GcjvgrPvd00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcjvgrPvd00[/video]
This has never been used in live GO, but was it used in the 2011/2012 beta?[/QUOTE]
That may be it, I was in the beta and I've never played Dota
[QUOTE=Megadave;47105984]There should be a second pathway in Black Mesa where if you refuse, you are taken away to the jail, and have to fight your way out of it after the incident happens. Then it will converge into office complex.[/QUOTE]
Why would refusing to participate in a very dangerous experiment warrant jail time?
[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;47108513][video=youtube;GcjvgrPvd00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcjvgrPvd00[/video]
This has never been used in live GO, but was it used in the 2011/2012 beta?[/QUOTE]
yes it was in the csgo beta
i think by september they removed it
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