Half-Life and Portal series, general discussion (v6) - Games

[QUOTE=Marphy Black;49089863]This mod was made by the same guy who made the game about masturbating a gay car, right?[/QUOTE] :what:

[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;49089871]:what:[/QUOTE] It was such a :what: game that i kinda liked it.

my friends are getting their new call of duty and haloes every 2-3 years and here i'm still sitting with valve like a moron. so proud of my company.

[QUOTE=Hell-met;49090060]my friends are getting their new call of duty and haloes every 2-3 years and here i'm still sitting with valve like a moron. so proud of my company.[/QUOTE] The one upside to Valve is that they don't rush their games out every year. Although they do ruin them with updates like the Orange Box update.

And then leave some games to die in a hole

[QUOTE=megafat;49090129]The one upside to Valve is that they don't rush their games out every year. Although they do ruin them with updates like the Orange Box update.[/QUOTE] What I don't understand is why Valve doesn't outsource some of the work to modders. Well, because of legal reasons undoubtedly. I just have this feeling that there are many people who would gladly spend their free time fixing what Valve broke.

[QUOTE=Chrille;49090252]What I don't understand is why Valve doesn't outsource some of the work to modders. Well, because of legal reasons undoubtedly. [/QUOTE] They do, look at the TF2 workshop, CS:GO workshop, and DotA 2 workshop.

[QUOTE=glitchvid;49090388]They do, look at the TF2 workshop, CS:GO workshop, and DotA 2 workshop.[/QUOTE] Right, I should have specified with regards to fixing broken games.

[QUOTE=Chrille;49090436]Right, I should have specified with regards to fixing broken games.[/QUOTE] I know Valve wants to do cool stuff with the Steambox and VR and other stuff, but it just makes me feel that they're lazy as fuck when they don't bother to update their games. Jesus fucking Christ, just freelance it out to a bunch of Valve fans.

is it preposterous for me to have wanted fallout 4 to have a good score so valve might get motivated to make half life 3? because the wait for fallout 4 was 1 year shorter than the (current) wait for half life 3. i'm probably desperate, but who isn't?

Why would Valve care how Fallout 4 does critically? That's not going to motivate them to make HL3. That's only going to be on them alone.

What's really funny is. Even though Valve seems to believe there's no money in Single-player games, they're still sitting on one of the most popular game franchises in the world. Good or bad, if Valve was to actually come out and announce the next Half-Life game, there would be sooo many purchases.. Just about everyone knows about Half-Life, and wants the final game. I think Valve already knows this.. So I'm not doubting we'll see it. [B][I]Some day..[/I][/B]

It's probably less about the money (although I think you're overestimating how popular it is) and more about what interesting things they could do with it. Half-Life 1 was creating a coherent narrative and experience from levels, Half-Life 2 focused really hard on creating emotive characters with believable facial expressions, and a heavy emphasis on physics, and the episodes were about, well, that episodic model. And now the last console generation basically explored what a linear FPS could do so thoroughly, that Valve has no real reason to go back. They could make it open world, but practically every game coming out is open world now, too. All of that is why I figured that VR could give HL3 a reason to exist, a whole new frontier of game design to explore, but then they explicitly said that it wouldn't be a VR game. So yeah, I'm back to the point of thinking it's not going to be in the near future, unless it's a Source 2 showcase.

[QUOTE=Butthurter;49094394]other than the pun, what does fallout have anything to do with half life[/QUOTE] the evil combine (enclave) want to enslave earth (kill all muties), and you're the unlikely hero who is prophesised into saving the world and killing the bad guys. See?

[QUOTE=Butthurter;49094394]other than the pun, what does fallout have anything to do with half life[/QUOTE] i never said it has anything to do with half life. i said, even thought it was preposterous, that maybe valve will be motivated to make half life 3 after seeing fallout 4 doing so well, and say "hey we can do that too! and we'll get twice the amount of money made cause half life 3 is way more hyped than fallout 4!" also what pun

I think Trixil is using Fallout 4 as an example of single player games still being popular despite Valve saying multiplayer/microtransaction filled games are the future.

[QUOTE=sarge997;49092997]What's really funny is. Even though Valve seems to believe there's no money in Single-player games, they're still sitting on one of the most popular game franchises in the world. Good or bad, if Valve was to actually come out and announce the next Half-Life game, there would be sooo many purchases.. Just about everyone knows about Half-Life, and wants the final game. I think Valve already knows this.. So I'm not doubting we'll see it. [B][I]Some day..[/I][/B][/QUOTE] slight note here half-life 1 has multiplayer, and half-life 2 had mp cut and then released as hldm so half-life 3 having both sp and mp wouldn't be far-fetched or anything.

They could milk Half-Life 3 multiplayer like CS:GO or TF2 by adding a ton of useless skins people will obsess over for some reason. As long as it doesn't have a separate co-op campaign like Portal 2 did, I'll be happy so long as they remember the whole reason people care about Half-Life is because of the single player campaign.

[QUOTE=tW4r;49088657]That's almost literally the plot for the first Avengers movie[/QUOTE] Also Pacific Rim.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/Jg2BA8E.jpg[/img] [URL="https://www.facebook.com/BlackMesaDevs/photos/a.425760587442756.102126.391087910910024/1083956961623112/?type=3&theater"]The Black Mesa team had a tour of Valve yesterday[/URL]

possibly the only people to set foot in valve hq in the last five years who actually had any desire to work on a half life game :v:

[QUOTE=Most wanteD;49102213]possibly the only people to set foot in valve hq in the last five years who actually had any desire to work on a half life game :v:[/QUOTE] I can't decide whether I should laugh, cry, or curse because that statement is so accurate. [QUOTE=Kickin Balls;49086343]Perhaps the combine have a weakness? Maybe they haven't figured out how to defend against it...[/QUOTE] Funny, I was just thinking the other day how nothing seemed to be able to kill the Advisers. Then I realized that the Advisers have telekinetic and extrasensory powers that make up for their lack of physical organs to utilize their senses. Remember what Dr. Kliener said in Episode 1? "What the Combine fear the most is not any tangible human weapon, but our intellect, our will to respond, rationally and selectively to every terror they turn against us?" We overload their senses with loud music and then kill them.

i have another idea to add onto the fallout 4 thing; fallout 4 was probably the most hyped game since the last few years, and upon release, the game was not the equivalent to the citizen kane of the 21st century. sure, it was very good, but not [I]extremely[/I] good. and half life 3 isn't far off from the release date of the last fallout game in the series. so if half life 3 was released and was around as good or better than fallout 4, what's there to worry about? the fans didn't respond negatively at all about fallout 4 after it was released. like i said before, just being desperate, but hey, who isn't?

[QUOTE=adamsz;49103593]I can't decide whether I should laugh, cry, or curse because that statement is so accurate. Funny, I was just thinking the other day how nothing seemed to be able to kill the Advisers. Then I realized that the Advisers have telekinetic and extrasensory powers that make up for their lack of physical organs to utilize their senses. Remember what Dr. Kliener said in Episode 1? "What the Combine fear the most is not any tangible human weapon, but our intellect, our will to respond, rationally and selectively to every terror they turn against us?" We overload their senses with loud music and then kill them.[/QUOTE] We blast screamo at them and then squash them with a boulder while they're begging in pain for us to turn it off. We'll call it the Kleiner method.

[QUOTE=Trixil;49104077]i have another idea to add onto the fallout 4 thing; fallout 4 was probably the most hyped game since the last few years, and upon release, the game was not the equivalent to the citizen kane of the 21st century. sure, it was very good, but not [I]extremely[/I] good. and half life 3 isn't far off from the release date of the last fallout game in the series. so if half life 3 was released and was around as good or better than fallout 4, what's there to worry about? the fans didn't respond negatively at all about fallout 4 after it was released. like i said before, just being desperate, but hey, who isn't?[/QUOTE] Was Fallout 4 really the most hyped game since the last few years? I've heard literally nothing about about it at all before it's announcement.

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;49106685]How could anything surpass the hype of The Phantom Pain?[/QUOTE] MGSV wasn't really all that hyped outside the internet tbh. I haven't heard one thing about it and it's already forgotten about, meanwhile all I've been hearing the past 3 weeks is all Fallout

[QUOTE=t h e;49106676]Was Fallout 4 really the most hyped game since the last few years? I've heard literally nothing about about it at all before it's announcement.[/QUOTE] How would you hear much of anything before a game is even announced?

[QUOTE=Anderan;49106866]How would you hear much of anything before a game is even announced?[/QUOTE] I don't know, that's why I'm asking how it was supposedly the most hyped game since the last few years when it was only announced... this year?

it's because leaks and reports were basically all but confirming fallout 4's existence, the fact that bethesda had a show at e3 only doubled that affirmation. also, as far as the hype stuff goes, mgs v was first shown off back in like 2013, so for the game to finally release, hype was nowhere near as high as it was then. fallout was only shown 5 months ago, with bethesda constantly teasing us until release, and the early streamers sort of helped as well.

[QUOTE=t h e;49106892]I don't know, that's why I'm asking how it was supposedly the most hyped game since the last few years when it was only announced... this year?[/QUOTE] There was virtually nothing to get hyped about prior to the announcement, all we had were rumors. But people were hyped enough to fall for obvious fake websites that seemed to indicate the game was in production before we officially knew it existed.