Half-Life and Portal series, general discussion (v6) - Games

[QUOTE=a-cookie;47739131]i always assumed that they had large parts of the whole factory aspect located underground since you see loads of train tracks going into underground tunnels and stuff[/QUOTE] The pictures provided make the tower seem a lot smaller than it was portrayed on that map, it actually has fairly large depth and width.

[QUOTE=NixNax123;47739761]yeah wouldn't that be weird[/QUOTE] I couldn't think of a better way to word it.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;47739999]I couldn't think of a better way to word it.[/QUOTE] How about "[I]multiple[/I]" dimensions?

pocket universes

Anyone excited to replay the HL games on VR this fall?

[QUOTE=nightlord;47738484]Something i've been wondering, GLaDOS was made by uploading a person into a core, but what about the other Aperture Science personality constructs? They are sentient as well and don't seem that different to GLaDOS, but there is no mention of how they were made. The "Genetic Lifeform" part of the name also suggests that's something unique to her. Either Aperture just figured out how to create AI based on a person, or they can do that as well as create sentient AI normally.[/QUOTE] I believe they explained that GLaDOS is the only full artificial intelligence. The personality constructs are just that, a single construct each with their own specific purpose.

[QUOTE=artDecor;47730640]then what happened?[/QUOTE] he left it open overnight for several months there are less than 800 hours in a month

anyone know what happened to GooseGoose?

[QUOTE=Stents*;47740382]I believe they explained that GLaDOS is the only full artificial intelligence. The personality constructs are just that, a single construct each with their own specific purpose.[/QUOTE] GLaDOS is also a personality construct as well, though. All the cores were made for a specific purpose but it isn't said how that was done other than with GLaDOS, that doesn't really rule out if the cores were made with someone being uploaded/they're based on someone. The other constructs may be made to be a certain way but they are still sentient AI and the cores like Rick or Wheatley don't really seem any less of a full AI than GLaDOS is. Even the defective turrets seem to be sentient. They know they're defective and try to hide it, even going so far as to make shooting noises and asking for bullets. Their personality's actually seem less limited than the normal turrets are - it's unlikely they were designed to do things like that, being defective makes them seem more like a person. It seems cores are capable of thinking outside of their intended purpose, even if that is their main focus. Wheatley does mention something that suggests it's possible to duplicate a core so it seems there isn't someone uploaded into each individual core directly, but they could still require someone to create the core in the first place. It would also possibly explain why there are so many corrupted cores if the conversion process didn't go too well like with GLaDOS. Doing something like using an astronaut to create the Space Core seems like the sort of thing Aperture would do.

Something ain't right about Aperture in general. When you get out of the old section you are in a big hole, you would be in the entry to the salt mines, which is near the surface, but the amount of up you go is stupid, you should have been above ground really, but the central chamber is still just under the surface, but you still go many floors higher to the wheat field. I think the wheat field is a decoy so the combine doesn't blow their shit up, the place is a big building and as a matter of fact some robots probably camouflaged the surface so they are not found by the combine. GLaDOS might have blackmailed the Combine too, basically by telling them if they try to do anything it will blow the entire place, along with the precious local teleportation technology. The combine do not seem to like to fight in overcramped areas, seeing as the very cramped industrial zone of Ravenholm was simply shelled to avoid urban combat, while the coastal new part is relatively intact, even in city 17 they are flattening everything, especially after you get outside in EP1 where the striders blew everything up so there is nowhere to hide. The combine might have delayed their intervention because of this too, as the enrichment center is very dense and hard to navigate without destroying tons of stuff

I'm pretty sure the Combine don't know about Aperture Science labs, they forced the surrender of Earth's combined military forces in 7 hours. Why would a handful of sentry guns stop them?

i think the combine are aware, but for one reason or another, cant get in here are some lines from the final battle in portal 1: [B]escape_02_spheredestroy4-02.wav[/B] Are you trying to escape? Things have changed since the last time you have left the building. What's going on out there will make you wish you were back in here. [B]escape_02_spheredestroy4-03.wav[/B] I have an infinite capacity for knowledge, and even I'm not sure what's going on outside. [B]escape_02_spheredestroy4-04.wav[/B] All I know is, I'm the only thing standing between us... and [I]them[/I]. Well, I was. [B]escape_02_spheredestroy4-05.wav[/B] Unless you have a plan to build some supercomputer parts in a big hurry, this place isn't going to be safe much longer. the one i find most interesting is spheredestroy4-04

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;47744388]I'm pretty sure the Combine don't know about Aperture Science labs, they forced the surrender of Earth's combined military forces in 7 hours. Why would a handful of sentry guns stop them?[/QUOTE] If this is true, why wouldn't Breen have told his superiors of Aperture Science?

[QUOTE=Tyranabyte;47744544]If this is true, why wouldn't Breen have told his superiors of Aperture Science?[/QUOTE] Who said Breen knows where their labs were located?

[QUOTE=Butthurter;47744720]im not sure who but either a writer of portal 2 or laidlaw himself may have said the combine made attempts to get in yeah it baffles me just as much why they felt the need to explain that or why an interdimensional space faring empire thats conquered worlds couldnt get through some bankrupt futuristic research facility[/QUOTE] probably because of a slightly insane AI flooding the entrances with neurotoxin when they tried to get in.

[QUOTE=Pigbear;47744803]probably because of a slightly insane AI flooding the entrances with neurotoxin when they tried to get in.[/QUOTE] standard overwatch grunts wear gasmasks and skintight suits. [editline]17th May 2015[/editline] uhh. i see what i did. they aren't exposed to the gas

Aperture has lots of deadly shit, Lasers, Turrets, Lots of Turrets, Neurotoxin, More Neurotoxin, Break away floors+walls into pits so far down you'll never escape, Spike walls, Spike ceilings, Fire.

dont forget Emancipation Grid

Breen, being Black Mesa's former Administrator, would unlikely have any information on Aperture Portal Technology, or any general info on Aperture's own doings, seeing how they were rival companies with Cave Johnson hating Black Mesa with every fiber of his being. So I doubt Breen knew of anything about Aperture to hand over to the Combine, other than the general information about the mysterious disappearance of the Borealis which was apparently a well-known fact in the science community previous to the Black Mesa Incident. Glados is probably focused with keeping Xenian lifeforms like antlions and headcrabs from getting into the facility and wreaking havoc, and is otherwise hoping the Combine don't locate the testing facility or take any further interest in Aperture after locating the Borealis. It's not like the Combine would give a damn after ransacking the Borealis for all its local teleportation technology goodness so they can re-establish contact with the Overworld and further improve their clunky, inefficient portal tech.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;47744603]Who said Breen knows where their labs were located?[/QUOTE] It's not like aperture kept it very secret they were in a salt mine. [img]http://i1.theportalwiki.net/img/b/b1/Underground_trophycase_newspaper.png[/img] [QUOTE=Butthurter;47744720]im not sure who but either a writer of portal 2 or laidlaw himself may have said the combine made attempts to get in yeah it baffles me just as much why they felt the need to explain that or why an interdimensional space faring empire thats conquered worlds couldnt get through some bankrupt futuristic research facility[/QUOTE] When Marc was asked about aperture and the combine: [quote=Marc Laidlaw] Sorry, can’t comments on unreleased story elements. I can only say they tried to get in. [/quote]

[QUOTE=Pigbear;47744954]Aperture has lots of deadly shit, Lasers, Turrets, Lots of Turrets, Neurotoxin, More Neurotoxin, Break away floors+walls into pits so far down you'll never escape, Spike walls, Spike ceilings, Fire.[/QUOTE] Not to mention that it's run by a nigh-omnicidal AI, and considering GLaDOS's 'plan' throughout the games, it seems more than likely that she basically allows Chell to live. If she felt that something more dangerous was coming, she'd probably throw everything she had at it. I wouldn't be shocked if the Combine just gave up, considering that as far as they're aware, Aperture's technology is squat to them. Maybe they only found it after the main 'attack' fleet had already left? [editline]17th May 2015[/editline] [quote]unreleased story elements[/quote] Does this mean they actually have a story set out for Episode/ Half Life 3?

Then maybe the best possible explanation is simply that GlaDOS shaped a series of hallways and chambers in a semi-linear layout that allowed the Combine to explore the "entire" facility, without realizing there was much much more hidden behind the walls?

Perhaps the Borealis has something to do with them not being able to get it.

Didn't Aperture have really bad publicity? Maybe the combine just thought there wasn't anything worth taking so they didn't really try.

[QUOTE=Megadave;47745528]Perhaps the Borealis has something to do with them not being able to get it.[/QUOTE] Maybe they didn't find anything and thought the good technology was on the vessel and that's why they're still looking for it :v:

Well, if the Combine had no intel on stuff like the Portal gun in Aperture they wouldn't bother pressing that avenue as far as they could be bothered to. They would be much more interested in the obvious presence of portal tech on the Borealis after hearing how its mishap obviously involved portal tech.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;47745357]Not to mention that it's run by a nigh-omnicidal AI, and considering GLaDOS's 'plan' throughout the games, it seems more than likely that she basically allows Chell to live. If she felt that something more dangerous was coming, she'd probably throw everything she had at it. I wouldn't be shocked if the Combine just gave up, considering that as far as they're aware, Aperture's technology is squat to them. Maybe they only found it after the main 'attack' fleet had already left? [editline]17th May 2015[/editline] Does this mean they actually have a story set out for Episode/ Half Life 3?[/QUOTE] Marc's statement simply means "We haven't fully explored that idea in a game yet so we can't talk about it in case we change our minds on it at any point in development." [editline]18th May 2015[/editline] Although now that I think about it, a silly amount of retcons hasn't stopped him before, but maybe he's trying to avoid constantly retconning things

I have a question, if Portal 1 takes place during the Combine Years, then how come the Combine didn't try to invade it when GLaDOS was destroyed and had a huge ass hole in the ground. It only makes sense if Portal 1 takes place AFTER the Combine Years.

[QUOTE=Xonax;47746482]I have a question, if Portal 1 takes place during the Combine Years, then how come the Combine didn't try to invade it when GLaDOS was destroyed and had a huge ass hole in the ground. It only makes sense if Portal 1 takes place AFTER the Combine Years.[/QUOTE] It's clearly in a far off location, They probably didn't even know anything happened cause they don't have shit near it.

My headcanon is that one of the overwatch soldiers needed to use the toilet, tried to get into the Aperture outhouse in the wheat-field, found it was locked, and then gave up.