League of Legends v35 - Gangplank appreciation thread - Games

I like using kindreds mark as a sort of fake out if one of my laners are struggling. Top lane being pushed in really hard and he cant handle it? Mark enemy top lane and 90% of the time they will play safe and back off for a couple min

Just read Jhin's story on the official site and I gotta say I like it. I think he's one of the few champions with a appealing backstory that involves another members of the cast. I love how they even sepparated the story in acts like in a theater play.

[QUOTE=Rudevinny;51784291]I don't know what role would be the worst one to give to someone who'd fuck it all up, seems like almost any ruined lane will demolish the game no matter the role. Most of the time the jungler or support earns my ire, though. I always play with the mindset that ganks are a luxury and I should be independent in laning phase, but what the fuck are you exactly doing as a jungler if you're not ganking anyone yet your CS is pitifully low? If you're planning on AFK farming and making a grand entrance in the late-game, then actually commit to it instead of feeding the enemy Kha'Zix and making the idea of a late-game near impossible. And speaking of supports, Lux support. God DAMN IT. You know, I can tolerate her in the bot lane if she actually builds support and does her best to not feed her ass off. But that almost never happens in my ELO. It's usually the kind of player who forgets about building support items beyond the Spellthief's Edge bought 10 seconds in and goes full AP, nevermind the fact that she's 0/10/3. You know, if you're going to play damage support, that's fine. But Lux is one of the most mediocre choices in this regard, as her base damage is not that good and she needs a lot of AP to do damage. Supports like Brand and Vel'Koz are much better choices in my opinion. The former has percentage health damage that only gets more ridiculous with Rylai's and Liandry's, the latter has true damage and a lot of range. And in case you aren't shooting for damage, why not just go for Karma instead? Lux is not awful in the hands of a good player but there are champions who do her job far better in the bot lane.[/QUOTE] had a game where our support lux refused to build a sightstone in favour of damage, her excuse being that we have no damage because our adc was 0/5 thanks to her supporting skills holy fuck my computer just blue screened after 3 years of not doing it during a promo game i want to die

never thought i'd use the words "good" and "aatrox" in the same sentence, let alone on the same world as each other, but jungle aatrox is surprisingly good

Also now that I've been practicing jungle I've noticed that top and mid laners are always down to fuck their laner up but bot lane is just as likely to walk back towards their tower when you gank as they are to sit behind their creeps, even when you ping for dear life that you're going in on the pushed up/equilibrium enemy bot lane [editline]6th February 2017[/editline] I don't get it either I mean I'm always down for ganks when I play bot or support. Unless everyone majorly fucks up it's always at least one kill

i haven't paid any attention to the game since the end of worlds till now, what major changes have gone on aside from the ww rework?

[QUOTE=Hammernipples;51787171]never thought i'd use the words "good" and "aatrox" in the same sentence, let alone on the same world as each other, but jungle aatrox is surprisingly good[/QUOTE] He falls off hard after 2 1/2 - 3 items. Unless he's just so far ahead he's like 2 items up, he'll just crash at that point.

[QUOTE=Vmonkey;51787674]i haven't paid any attention to the game since the end of worlds till now, what major changes have gone on aside from the ww rework?[/QUOTE] lethality builds for adcs. its pretty much ghost blade and edge of night on a bunch of adcs instead of the usual builds.

[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;51788039]lethality builds for adcs. its pretty much ghost blade and edge of night on a bunch of adcs instead of the usual builds.[/QUOTE] That's not really different from what was going on around Worlds. Worlds was all armor pen ADCs. The only difference is now the only two good ones are Varus and Jhin, then Ashe for standard crit build and utility with Hawkshot and ult.

[QUOTE=Rudevinny;51788687]People have been playing Lucian and Miss Fortune with the lethality builds as well. To be honest if a champion's kit doesn't utilize critical hits in the same way as Ashe, Caitlyn, Gangplank, Jhin, Caitlyn etc. then lethality is usually my preferred option. The damage is a lot more consistent and synergizes a lot better with caster champions like Lucian and Varus. I dislike the crit build on Varus so much, your Q and E do less damage yet your W stacks still do as much as on the lethality build, so why bother? Maybe it's just me, though. I prefer poke champions and builds more than anything.[/QUOTE] but jhin lethality is legit since he has a guaranteed crit [editline]7th February 2017[/editline] like infinity edge is a decent item on him i guess but fucking essence reaver is so dumb idk why people build it like if ur spamming your spells you are doing it wrongioli [editline]7th February 2017[/editline] essence reaver in general needs a buff like who needs it absolutely, sivir i guess??

[QUOTE=Egevened;51788909]but jhin lethality is legit since he has a guaranteed crit [editline]7th February 2017[/editline] like infinity edge is a decent item on him i guess but fucking essence reaver is so dumb idk why people build it like if ur spamming your spells you are doing it wrongioli [editline]7th February 2017[/editline] essence reaver in general needs a buff like who needs it absolutely, sivir i guess??[/QUOTE] My AD Blitzcrank/Nautilus

I am genuinely happy about this [t]http://i.imgur.com/4yBu0q6.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Rudevinny;51788687]People have been playing Lucian and Miss Fortune with the lethality builds as well. To be honest if a champion's kit doesn't utilize critical hits in the same way as Ashe, Caitlyn, Gangplank, Jhin, Caitlyn etc. then lethality is usually my preferred option. The damage is a lot more consistent and synergizes a lot better with caster champions like Lucian and Varus. I dislike the crit build on Varus so much, your Q and E do less damage yet your W stacks still do as much as on the lethality build, so why bother? Maybe it's just me, though. I prefer poke champions and builds more than anything.[/QUOTE] Lucian still got shit on by the Fervor change. [QUOTE=Egevened;51788909]like infinity edge is a decent item on him i guess but fucking essence reaver is so dumb idk why people build it like if ur spamming your spells you are doing it wrongioli [editline]7th February 2017[/editline] essence reaver in general needs a buff like who needs it absolutely, sivir i guess??[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Rudevinny;51789155]If people just stopped being bonobos and wasting W on every minion wave they come across, they wouldn't need Essence Reaver.[/QUOTE] Wow you guys have absolutely no idea why Essence Reaver is built on Jhin or even Ashe apparently. Have you even looked at the item? The mana on crit thing is completely irrelevant. 30% CDR for going crit build is huge. The reason Ashe and Jhin were pick/ban before the Lethality changes made Varus broken was because of their utility - IE, their ability to get picks. Especially late game, 1 pick can mean the entire game. Jhin's ult and W, and Ashe's ult are both huge for that.

I miss lifesteal on Essence Reaver, it was LIT AF.

[QUOTE=Rudevinny;51790762]Oh right, forgot about the cooldown reduction on the item. Doesn't make it much more relevant to me, though, since I already reach around 30% CDR on my build at the same time someone with an Essence Reaver would.[/QUOTE] Sure now that lethality isn't hot garbage anymore. When it was shit the best build for Jhin was GB into crit build, though I always went straight into crit build with CDR boots.

Aw yeah went from Bronze 3 to Bronze 1. Moving up in the world.

[video=youtube;jJTufk627g8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJTufk627g8[/video] thanks riot

Sick summoner name on that Viktor

[QUOTE=KillRay;51793020]Sick summoner name on that Viktor[/QUOTE] KillRay

been tearing shit up with kogmaw. i havent gotten kda ratios this good since season 2. [editline]8th February 2017[/editline] been waiting to get top so i can try him up there. sounds like a horrible plan but as long as it isnt a gnar or fiora or something like that should be good.

[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;51791658][video=youtube;jJTufk627g8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJTufk627g8[/video] thanks riot[/QUOTE] Try pressing F next time

[QUOTE=Moofy;51794105]Try pressing F next time[/QUOTE] my plan was to flash over the wall but I didn't expect to get stuck on the wall

[QUOTE=Toothpick;51793350]KillRay[/QUOTE] I don't use this name anywhere but here for a reason (It's also a killroy reference)

silver 1, finally time to finally ascend from silver hell into gold hell

[QUOTE=Rudevinny;51793680]My build is the GB into crit build one. I could go for Edge of Night, but I wouldn't get the 40% CDR with it and I have enough lethality with Ghostblade and my rune setup anyway.[/QUOTE] You should be going GB, Edge of Night, IE+RFC with swifties or CDR boots and and a LW item as a standard build. Don't build ER. You don't need 40% CDR anymore because you can play for damage now. You aren't just an ult bot anymore. [editline]8th February 2017[/editline] 40% CDR for constant ults was for when lethality was garbage and ADCs were mainly useful for getting picks before 3-4 items. Now the lethality ones can do damage in 1-2 and still have pick utility you can build for damage.

For runes I'd say full lethality reds with AD quints, armor yellows because bot lane, then 6 scaling CDR blues and 3 scaling MR blues. That's the page Doublelift runs, it's a really good general page. Edge of Night should be bought earlier than 5th item. You should flat out just buy it 2nd item, I don't see a single Maw purchase on Jhin on Probuilds, but Edge of Night is bought second nearly every game. The extra lethality is great and better the earlier you get it, the AD on it is good, the out of combat MS is good, but more importantly the active is dumb. 10s uptime on a 30s C/D Banshee's Veil is just stupid good. You basically just activate it any time there might be a spell get near you and then keep it up on cooldown.

The cooldown is 30s with a duration of 10s, you can honestly just keep it going most of the time you're near where enemy champs might be. You should also just work on active usage, for me personally playing Tiamat users really helped me. Using it off the back end of an auto to get extra damage, played a lot of Trundle and ran a really greedy build. Wukong back then also ran it, and after Titanic came out I started building that on pre-rework Shen.

I build Jhin pretty greedy, and call me crazy but I don't build GB early or at all some games. For armor pen I usually just get LW item, usually DR but sometimes MR is better for champs like vlad/voli etc. Part of it might be the extra greedy choice of running some Crit dmg runes. It makes for a so-so early game, but I've played him so much I can hang just fine usually, and late game the extra ~36% crit dmg really, really adds up. Granted, I'm silver 3 so I'm nothing special. It's definitely super greedy and I really have to be on my game with movement/kiting to not get deleted, but generally the 100% crit and ridiculous speed from them late game let's me stay out of danger and cause some serious hurt.

The problem with going full greed crit build on Jhin is you basically don't have an early game for shit. The point of the lethality build is to be effective at 1-2 items, which crit build ADCs can't do. Ashe and Jhin are only marginally better off because of their unique crit synergies. Running crit damage, presumably in reds, kills your damage in laning. In silver 3 nobody knows anything about laning, but as you get higher you'll start meeting laners that can and will harass you properly and all-in when they have the advantage and will back off to make you use 4th shot on minions.

Agreed, the early game definitely takes a hit, but at this level it's crazy rare to actually be punished for it. You're right of course, as I get higher this will undoubtedly quit working. The smarter build would be AD/lethality reds, and for items...GB and Edge of night first and not getting ER or PD, right?