League of Legends v35 - Gangplank appreciation thread - Games

first, don't build botrk on gnar. its awful. rush brutalizer or last whisper if you absolutely need damage. Otherwise, build sunfire and then tank items. second, gnar should counter garen in lane, you're ranged and have a reliable escape. Spend the entire lane harassing him with your boomerang and w procs and then kill him at 6. third, the real counter to garen is olaf. He has insane poke, wins every trade vs garen, his E ignores garen's w and his ult ignores his silence. as an aside, olaf also shits on darius and pretty much every other top laner with the exception of vladimir and nasus. vs Fiora is a skill matchup, but since you have no hard cc to proc her W stun, all you have to worry about is having your true damage E blocked by it. [editline]1st November 2015[/editline] seriously if you want to climb just pick a few champions for each role that you ENJOY PLAYING (not just because they're op..) and stick with them. I don't care if garen is open, pick what you'll find fun, not what lolcounter or reddit tells you to pick

Idk what to pick against Garen. I don't toplane in ranked. If I could choose I'd adc like I always do but they obviously didn't let me. I can't play against garen cause his Q closes the gap too much, I built the wrong thing in order to survive against him to begin with but it was impossible to keep a gap. And I'm comfortable with Gnar, just not against Garen with anything

[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49027363]vs Fiora is a skill matchup[/QUOTE] well every lane is a skill matchup even the hardest counter to a champ can still get shit on if the guy playing doesn't know what he's doing

Doesn't everyone rush black cleaver on gnar and go full tank from there?

[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;49027454]Doesn't everyone rush black cleaver on gnar and go full tank from there?[/QUOTE] you dont really need the movespeed on gnar, brutalizer lets you win pretty much every trade in lane

black cleaver is the best damage item on gnar other than hexdrinker -> maw

the movespeed is a godsend. it lets you kite even better than usual, makes for easier positioning (for your ult for example). the cooldown reduction is also great and TBC is the only item gnar can get that gives 20% of it. brutalizer doesn't give health either, and the only item it builds into is a fully offensive one which you're probably gonna have to delay if you don't get ahead. basically there's absolutely no reason to build brutalizer over TBC

I played Mundo against Garen, level 6 you get regen and Garen can't do shit about it, just spam Q at him, spam /laugh, and farm, then build tank.

[QUOTE=Confuzzed Otto;49027153]lolcounter is the biggest lie ive ever seen in my life gnar doesnt counter garen [img]http://i.imgur.com/UnK2pL9.png[/img] gnar doesnt counter garen at all[/QUOTE] Definately doesnt counter garen if you get merc boots and botrk my friend [editline]1st November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Grindigo;49027731]I played Mundo against Garen, level 6 you get regen and Garen can't do shit about it, just spam Q at him, spam /laugh, and farm, then build tank.[/QUOTE] one time i played leona against gp and won a few years ago I just build full damage and killed him I hope you guys liked my story

TBH I think the state of the game is one of the worst it's ever been in a long time. I feel like all of the newly released champs have bullshit written all over them. Almost every newly released champions have a random mix (Or all of them) of mobility, get out of jail free cards, ridiculous damage and they're just fucking stupid to itemize against. You got champions like Kindred that can dash on a 1-2 seconds cooldown while slowing you and a semi-get out of jail free card, Gnar who can jump all over the place and slow you infinitely and he's also got movement speed while just being an annoyance in general, Ekko practically has two dashes along with a get out of jail free ult, Tahm Kench has almost 2 hp bars you have to go through along with fucking bullshit CC, etc. I just feel like there's so much fucking shit in the game right now and it's totally cluttered. Instead of polishing what they already have they try to add more shit, try to go new direction with champions and making spells that would have been 5 minutes ult had they been released a year ago but instead they're simple abilities on a 5 seconds cooldown. I don't even know how to itemize against anyone at this point, everyone does mixed damage, build MR, everyone does physical, build armor, everyone does MR. Fight a gnar, he does 900 magic damage with his W alone, fight Tahm, he does like 20% of your health with his devour and then shits on you because all he has to do is build tank to do damage, fight Kindred, guy's jumping all over the fucking place and the second you get close to killing him he just jacks off all over your face with his ult, fight ekko and he's about to lose so he just sticks his dick in your mouth before ulting back. The game is so fucking anti-fun right now, nothing is fun about everyone being able to escape and never die and do tons of damage, I feel like I'm playing a twitch shooter right now, the first one to get hit just fucking dies.

the only champs i really hate nowadays are kindred, tahm kench, and darius

[QUOTE=Heigou;49028108]TBH I think the state of the game is one of the worst it's ever been in a long time. I feel like all of the newly released champs have bullshit written all over them. Almost every newly released champions have a random mix (Or all of them) of mobility, get out of jail free cards, ridiculous damage and they're just fucking stupid to itemize against. [/QUOTE] all those champions besides kindred need those out of jail free cards if they didn't have them they'd be decimated during endgame battles

[QUOTE=Bathtub;49027618]black cleaver is the best damage item on gnar other than hexdrinker -> maw[/QUOTE] you really want to be doing the damage early on in the lane, brutalizer does that much better than phage -> bc, it's too delayed and you need sunfire

Been playing lots of Kindred and TK lately and I have to say, 9 out of 10 times where I outplay my opponent it's because of them messing up, like severely underestimating TK's casting range/times or timing the end of kindred's ult wrong And half the time this is followed up by a "wow broken champ" too I know I'm always the one saying this but I don't mind it. I think it's a matter of fine tuning- like making Devour deal flat damage (maybe reduce the range), reducing Gnar's W damage, giving Darius some higher mana costs (and changing the passive back to magic damage)- not a massive problem with the state of the game.

[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49028682]you really want to be doing the damage early on in the lane, brutalizer does that much better than phage -> bc, it's too delayed and you need sunfire[/QUOTE] sunfire is really good on gnar for the rage and stats but its not that bad if you delay it a little

[QUOTE=ashxu;49025299]havent played league since 2013 and i still sort of follow the game and read the big changes[/QUOTE] go back to SKULLGIRLS fam

okay wtf zilean afk for the first 15 minutes of the game he returns, and they're already knocking at our base ask for a surrender at 20 zilean refuses along with 1 other tell him why the fuck does he bother to come back and think he even stands a chance against a 200 farm yasuo "report nasus negative attitude" 7 am EUW is fucking the worst [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] this too: champion select everyone picked a champ looking good so far one guy left he asks "are you gonna support" to the only one who hasn't locked in 2 seconds left our guy has had his choice over janna with exhaust for the last 20 seconds guy fails to pick a champion back to queue (4 minutes wait) [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] sometimes this game just hates me

This looks like every game I play on a daily basis, plus I dodge every shitty game, imagine having your team leader ban 3 adcs for no reason then instalock Twitch, then second person instalocks Shaco.

Matchmaking in this game drives me insane, one game it's easy mode, next game it's suddenly super hard mode and I'm playing against some smurfs, it's also super antifun to play against super mobile champs and fed Yasuo players who split push all day long, and I main ADC. Everything in this game keeps me conflicted if I actually enjoy or hate it, the game itself is toxic, not even the players.

[QUOTE=Grindigo;49032782]Matchmaking in this game drives me insane, one game it's easy mode, next game it's suddenly super hard mode and I'm playing against some smurfs, it's also super antifun to play against super mobile champs and fed Yasuo players who split push all day long, and I main ADC. Everything in this game keeps me conflicted if I actually enjoy or hate it, the game itself is toxic, not even the players.[/QUOTE] The possibility of fed mobile champions going around is what makes me that much more interested in playing a champion with at least one CC ability that isn't a direct slow. You'd be surprised how easy it is to shut down a fed person when it comes to heavy team applied CC. Just, uh, don't get matched up against a fed Irelia.

[QUOTE=DJswitch;49033018]The possibility of fed mobile champions going around is what makes me that much more interested in playing a champion with at least one CC ability that isn't a direct slow. You'd be surprised how easy it is to shut down a fed person when it comes to heavy team applied CC. Just, uh, don't get matched up against a fed Irelia.[/QUOTE] I know it's possible, but in low elo, you can't even tell your team to do this or that, or if you say their item build is wrong they want to murder you. In fact it's hilarious how in Normals players often tend to be better than in Ranked.

[QUOTE=Grindigo;49033186]I know it's possible, but in low elo, you can't even tell your team to do this or that, or if you say their item build is wrong they want to murder you. In fact it's hilarious how in Normals players often tend to be better than in Ranked.[/QUOTE] This is why I like to play champions that can set kills up and spoon feed people more often than not. The support role is filled to the brim with champions that can make many things happen. Most top laners generally have their own form of set-up CC as well.

[QUOTE=DJswitch;49033292]This is why I like to play champions that can set kills up and spoon feed people more often than not. The support role is filled to the brim with champions that can make many things happen. Most top laners generally have their own form of set-up CC as well.[/QUOTE] I'm support main and adc, so yeah, but in ranked my games are pretty much 50/50, it's ridiculous, every time I get ahead of my loss ratio and get more wins, then there is a higher chance I'll be matched with worse players and that makes games super hard. I've pretty much played my last game as Zilean and supported Draven, I made him go 18/1/6 and I was 4/0/19, other team pretty much gave up.

So uh...CLG Wildturtle what the actual fuck [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3r5nxt/zikz_confirmed_that_wildturtle_in_clg_house_and/[/url]

[QUOTE=Grindigo;49033522]I'm support main and adc, so yeah, but in ranked my games are pretty much 50/50, it's ridiculous, every time I get ahead of my loss ratio and get more wins, then there is a higher chance I'll be matched with worse players and that makes games super hard. I've pretty much played my last game as Zilean and supported Draven, I made him go 18/1/6 and I was 4/0/19, other team pretty much gave up.[/QUOTE] In a perfect world, as long as you're getting matched with players of equal skill, your win rate will be 50%. If you're better and you carry extremely hard, your win rate tips over until the game matches you into a division you're best suited in.

Played last two ranked games as Zilean support, won both of them without dying, fed my ad's really hard. I really like how you can grant xp now, if someone dies you can help them back on their feet much easier, I think he's pretty dope, landing double clocks for a stun is also super satisfying.

[QUOTE=Grindigo;49032782]Matchmaking in this game drives me insane, one game it's easy mode, next game it's suddenly super hard mode and I'm playing against some smurfs, it's also super antifun to play against super mobile champs and fed Yasuo players who split push all day long, and I main ADC. Everything in this game keeps me conflicted if I actually enjoy or hate it, the game itself is toxic, not even the players.[/QUOTE] your problem is maining adc this season is (was, R.I.P) the era of top laners. I regularly dish out sometimes double the damage of our ADC, playing champs like gnar, olaf, fiora, while being way tankier. In any meta where the vast majority of champions deemed broken live in one lane, it's absolute heaven for those that actually main that role. People sometimes leave any of the juggernauts open, tricking people into instalocking them for the first time because they saw on someone's stream that they're broken, then the top lane main locks in a champion they are actually comfortable with and kicks the shit out of them. So, top lane is actually really easy. That, combined with the new items allowing top laners to both take and deal the most damage, makes it the most fun (the only fun) lane to play

Landed a 5 man Zilean stun, I've creamed myself when that happened, I also had some ap items and ap pen boots, so it really screwed them up and my team went in to clean up, ace'd them.

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Much better than season 4s.