Dota 2 General Chat XXXII - 6.88 will make the ancient summon robot miners and TPs will be free

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=Bordellimies;51132756]That could actually be remade into a proper spell, if you reduce the speed, DPS of the ability and make the units act/tagged similar to weaver swarmlings, so that enemy hero bots know to attack them instead of be scared.[/QUOTE]

It's actually fairly balanced. The bots died so quickly because yes, they don't know how to attack them, and the fact that it was max level casted. It's counterable with a pipe but bots don't get pipe.

[Bordey]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51133725]It's actually fairly balanced. The bots died so quickly because yes, they don't know how to attack them, and the fact that it was max level casted. It's counterable with a pipe but bots don't get pipe.[/QUOTE]

How hard is it to make fully custom abilities? I've always dreamed of making custom heroes, but the only way I know how to edit spells is to change certain values, not actually make new abilities.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=Bordellimies;51133785]How hard is it to make fully custom abilities? I've always dreamed of making custom heroes, but the only way I know how to edit spells is to change certain values, not actually make new abilities.[/QUOTE]

It's more tedious than it is difficult, but once you get the hang of it you could make anything you want as long as you have the right assets and the know-how. Like when I was first getting started I just couldn't stop bitching about how user unfriendly it was. The game really wants you to use the data-driven system alongside lua functions but I rather just code things in raw lua.

It's basically a system where if you solo work on your own custom gamemode, you're going to pull out all your hair because of how long it actually takes to code 4 simple abilities for a hero. Like I really want to make my own dota 2 imba clone, but I rather not do it on my own and I rather not be the leader of such a team.

[joshuadim]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51130301]Oh for those of you who care about custom games, I wouldn't recommend playing imba if you also care about morals. The creator of IMBA (firetoad) decided to go full retard and code in a ban that prevents people from playing if they're with a specific individual.

[url]https://github.com/fcalife/dota_imba/blob/4ca30b1ec994c6bb178c26671c972dbad80f7ce5/game/dota_addons/dota_imba/scripts/vscripts/internal/events.lua#L61[/url]

[url]https://github.com/fcalife/dota_imba/blob/4ca30b1ec994c6bb178c26671c972dbad80f7ce5/game/dota_addons/dota_imba/scripts/vscripts/imba.lua#L698[/url]

What the code does is forces the game to end, tells all players to disconnect, and shames the banned user with a message. Unless he gets a new steam account, he is unable to play that custom gamemode.

So who's Baumi? He's a critic. A harsh critic who speaks his mind.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgBoU9v0eeY[/media]

tl;dw The creator of Imba started a patreon to get paid for his work, Baumi pointed out that it's not worth paying for and the creator got offended. Later in a video, Baumi make a joke about how he's a lazy sellout, and he took offense to that. The creator then coded a ban and made a really fucked up post on reddit that got upvoted to hell because Baumi is an easy target.

The reason why this isn't picking up is because people are focusing on the fact that Baumi bitches too much, the dota 2 subreddit doesn't like drama, and that there are many many many incredibly loyal fanboys to imba. I think this will start to pick up once the gamemode gets banned from the Steam Workshop for violating the Steam Subscriber agreement. Hopefully there isn't going to be a witch hunt on Baumi.

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Like I could write a lot more on this but I don't know what parts people could or could not care about. Since the dota 2 reddit community is filled with what you would expect a dota 2 reddit community to be filled with, people are focusing on the wrong things and giving Firetoad a massive fucking egoboost, and it shows. Here's some interesting snippits that will give you a grasp on how fucked up this entire situation is.

[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/54mvuj/baumi_got_banned_from_playing_dota_imba/?sort=top[/url][/QUOTE]

What a petulant manchild this guy is [firetoad]

Taking a grudge to that level is so low

OVER A FUCKING DOTA 2 GAMEMODE

[Bordey]

I call this the "Trilogy Build"

[IMG]http://puu.sh/rtXuZ/a79502ccb4.jpg[/IMG]

[ghghop]

[QUOTE=Giggle;51133117]So brood mother?[/QUOTE]

She requires creeps or heroes to make a swarm. I'm talking a longer cooldown spell that makes disposable units that act like real bees, but deal large nuke damage.

It was a throwaway idea but honestly it's cool thinking about an ultimate that makes units that die once they make contact with the target and deal a small nuke.

[fog]

[QUOTE=Yahnich;51134673]it's not that tedious to code 4 simple abilities, you get the hang of it; i can make a simple ability in around 15min nowadays (for example replicating tree living armor with same as dota targeting etc) and harder ones where i have to make my own mechanics and particles take longer, usually an hour or so

i can replicate any of dota imba's skills in around 30min to an hour depending on how complex the ability was if that helps put it in perspective, you get pretty fast at it

edit: if anyone ever has any questions you can add me on steam or shoot me a pm i'll help however i can[/QUOTE]

can i make an ability that kills me instantly, both ingame and out

[slayer20]

[QUOTE=Bordellimies;51133785]How hard is it to make fully custom abilities? I've always dreamed of making custom heroes, but the only way I know how to edit spells is to change certain values, not actually make new abilities.[/QUOTE]

A full working ability is only as difficult as you want to make it.

I've been working on my custom hero [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=746565118]Hylonome[/url] for about a year and I've gone through tons of ability changes that have all been fully functional.

Half the fun of creating a custom hero is just coding random abilities to see what feels cool and what doesn't. If you have any questions feel free to ask me as well.

[Bordey]

Well my designs tend to be on the more complex side, so I doubt I could write up the abilities for them.

[slayer20]

[QUOTE=Bordellimies;51138565]Well my designs tend to be on the more complex side, so I doubt I could write up the abilities for them.[/QUOTE]

Would you care to share one of your complex abilities?

[ROFLBURGER]

Anything is possible tbh.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFLPExnSi74[/media]

[sp]AOE doom that silences, disarms, mutes, and damages targets whilst giving the attacker bonus attack speed, strength, and move speed OSFrog[/sp]

[SgtWoodsy]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51139885][sp]AOE doom that silences, disarms, mutes, and damages targets whilst giving the attacker bonus attack speed, strength, and move speed OSFrog[/sp][/QUOTE]The most important part is that it plays E1M1 as well.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=Clovis;51139910]i die inside every time i see a video with some obnoxious announcer pack[/QUOTE]

i have it enabled to remind me daily of the mess that was fallout 4

[Davoc]

default announcer and lina are the only good ones

[fog]

I used bastion since it came out but I've recently switched to Deus Ex

Jensen is just snarky enough to be enjoyable and not annoying

[editline]2nd October 2016[/editline]

He also reminds me to spam my taunt button since it makes me invulnerable

[arktomys]

so when is techies going to be buffed

[Davoc]

next patch definitely monday, or sometime next week

[arktomys]

[QUOTE=Clovis;51140581]i honestly wouldnt hold my breath for techies buffs[/QUOTE]

:(

[Hey I'm Grump!]

[quote][B]6.88e:[/B]
Dragon Lance strength reduced from 14 to 13
Infused Raindrop cooldown increased from 4 to 6
Illusions attack damage reduction against buildings increased from 25% to 30%
Diffusal Blade cooldown increased from 2 to 4
Outworld Devourer base armor reduced by 1.5
Shadow Poison initial damage reduced from 50 to 26/34/42/50
Flamebreak cooldown increased from 14 to 17
Drow base damage reduced by 4
Torrent damage reduced from 120/180/240/300 to 75/150/225/300
Echo Stomp channel time increased from 1.2 to 1.3
Oracle base damage reduced by 6
Morphling intelligence gain reduced from 1.5 to 1.1
Starstorm Scepter cooldown increased from 8 to 9
Time Dilation now only freezes abilities that are on cooldown, rather than also affecting abilities cast afterwards
Time Dilation slow per frozen ability increased from 8% to 10%
Tempest Double gold and XP bounty increased from 140 to 160
Juggernaut base damage reduced by 2
Counter Helix damage reduced from 90/120/150/180 to 75/110/145/180
Repel cast point improved from 0.5 to 0.35
Repel duration reduced from 6/8/10/12 to 4/6/8/10
Relocate delay increased from 2.5/2.25/2 to 2.7/2.35/2
Inner Vitality bonus regeneration threshhold reduced from 40% to 35%
Stifling Dagger cast range reduced from 1200 to 825/950/1075/1200
Smokescreen slow reduced from 25% to 19/21/23/25%
Track manacost increased from 50 to 65
Mana Leak manacost increased from 75 to 150
Illuminate radius increased from 350 to 375
Blinding Light knockback distance increased from 400 to 525
Sand King movement speed reduced by 5
Timbersaw base strength reduced by 1
[/quote]

[Davoc]

Okay so that rules out the big patch. What the hell

I hope that means battle pass next week.

[fog]

llusions attack damage reduction against buildings increased from 25% to 30%

reee

[editline]2nd October 2016[/editline]

The time dilation change is good though

[Bordey]

Literally all changes except for Illuminate and Blinding Light were nerfs, what the hell :v:

[ghghop]

[QUOTE=Clovis;51141119]yea i have no idea why theyre improving shadow demon Q siege abuse when its already strong enough[/QUOTE]

They're not though, the illusions do 5%less damage

[zipziggy]

someone else mentioned it but 6.87e came 2 weeks before 6.88 so im still holding hope

[The Wroth]

Thank fuck for those nerfs, watching MDL for the last few days was boring as hell with all of the same picks every game. November seems like a good target for the 6.88 update, anything before that will be even better.

[ghghop]

They keep trying to nerf Arc Warden but they don't know how. They need to make the slow from the double not stack directly and then he should be fine

[WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW]

[QUOTE]Timbersaw base strength reduced by 1[/QUOTE]
How much does this affect Timbersaw?

[WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW]

[QUOTE=Clovis;51144494]20 hp

so like a third of a good level 1 right click cause he has 0 armor

lol

[editline]3rd October 2016[/editline]

if its really going to matter just buy a branch if you have a slot available you can use it for ur abilities duh[/QUOTE]

What's the point of such an insignificant nerf?

[ROFLBURGER]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/A4kbmbi.png[/img]

When you make a devour ability and you forgot to filter Roshan.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=Yahnich;51144572]are u working on dota imba doom or smth[/QUOTE]

Original plan was to submit my work to the dota 2 imba community but that dumb drama thing happened. It risks getting removed from the workshop so I'm not sharing any of my ideas with the imba reddit community until the creator matures and removes the coded ban.

As of now, I'm just working on a portfolio of heroes to make so I could go on reddit and ask if there are any imba-like game modes that need an extra hand.