Dota 2 General Chat XXXII - 6.88 will make the ancient summon robot miners and TPs will be free
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[QUOTE=Yahnich;51144663]honestly i fucking loathe imba, it's imba but actually imbalanced and just no fun at all and i was thinking of essentially making a new moba in dota, now that would be some meta shit so if i ever have spare time to work on that i'll hit you up[/QUOTE]
I share the same thought. I could write an essay on why IMBA is garbage. It being garbage (as well as drama) is kinda why I just want to help make another gamemode. I'm delusional in a sense where I genuinely believe I could make a better gamemode than IMBA.
IMBA is a guilty pleasure in a sense where 75% of the time you're going to get a shit game because the game itself isn't balanced really well. The creators do not consider other heros, and sometimes they don't even consider the potential of hero itself. You can tell that the game is balanced around 2k mmr because they keep giving broken heros (who are relatively hard to play) like invoker or leshrac a stupid amount of buffs.
The fanbase is pretty awful too and defends the balance of the game rabidly. They use the defense of "Oh you're not allowed to complain about the gamemode because <REASON!>"
Replace <REASON!> with one of the many things on this list:
1. It's a custom game!
2. Um, it's called IMBA you retard, it's supposed to be IMBALANCED!
3. There's only 2 people working on it!
4. Just pick <insert hero here> if you see a <insert hero here> picked! Play him every game if you have to!
5. Just pick the hero before anyone else picks the hero!
A weaker early game. Simple.
You guys should improve your dotos.
someone should make a Jojo custom game in Dota, would be far better than Naruto vs One Piece or some stupid shit like that :v:
every patch the community loses one base int
Why do people complain about IMBA so much? It's a gimmick mode. Yes, it's a retarded clusterfuck every single game. That's the whole point. What else did you expect?
[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;51145635]Why do people complain about IMBA so much? It's a gimmick mode. Yes, it's a retarded clusterfuck every single game. That's the whole point. What else did you expect?[/QUOTE]
There's fun broken, then there's why even play broken. The latter isn't fun.
[editline]3rd October 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Yahnich;51145725]its an unfun clusterfuck overall, i like several concepts and stuff but overall some shit is so broken its just not fun to play against
like imaging 20% of the hero pool is techies when techies was strong[/QUOTE]
A few of the concepts might actually work in the real game too. For example, Sniper's shrapnel is global and any enemy in it can be assassinated. I think that'd be fine in the real game, there's already a million ways to dodge assassinate, there'd be some skill involved, snipers a dead hero and it'd give shrapnel some use.
Then there are Troll and Void who have no cap on attack speed, so you can literally just stack moonshards and permabash anyone who comes near you
[QUOTE=Clovis;51145091]i wouldnt know bro im not 5k[/QUOTE]
Still hung up on that? It was four weeks ago.
That's fast enough still, in one IMBA Dota game where the gold and exp were boosted for a faster game, I played Troll and was able to solo the entire enemy team because I just had too fucking much attack speed and lifesteal.
[QUOTE=Clovis;51144295]thats a very good start
[editline]3rd October 2016[/editline]
I dunno i feel like while his ult is good as a standalone spell and i think it should be kept in a way that rewards his farm (meaning that the bot mjollnir builds should still be a thing) i dont like the lack of penalization for using it early when your first two spells are so strong so early
a lot can be done to optimize the hero so i'm not gonna dictate what it should be, but i think that if theyre gonna put a bounty on the clone they should have the cooldown and duration be longer, that way the uptime is the same but the hero cant just be dispensed into nothing after getting a kill or disappear after pushing a lane up. Thats just kinda lame imo. If you had someone doing that with a lone druid bear, they could use their spells to kill the bear to claim its bounty, but the arc warden clone just expires too quickly for there to even be a point to the bounty IMO[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think as it is right now the risk/reward with his double is too small on the risk side. If you time it correctly youll never lose it.
I honestly think (despite loving the hero) that his double needs to do slightly less damage than the main one as well. He can siege better than a Drow if he has any farm.
[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;51145635]Why do people complain about IMBA so much? It's a gimmick mode. Yes, it's a retarded clusterfuck every single game. That's the whole point. What else did you expect?[/QUOTE]
I think everyone's fine with a clusterfuck, that's why people play it, but IMBA is unstable clusterfuck.
We expect a 32 player Deathmatch game with explosives only, on a medium-small map. It's a clusterfuck but it's controllable. What we get is a 64 player deathmatch game with random loadout with random hp on a random map, that only randomizes when you spawn for the first time. 90% of the time you get a shit game, but when you hit that 10% it feels nice so that's why people play it.
[URL="http://blog.dota2.com/2016/10/the-boston-major/"]Boston major Dec 7-10 boys. [/URL]
sydney major please
would it be a breach of fair use if I released a mod/gamemode that replaced sniper's sound with the mw2 intervention sounds and hitmarkers
So I served some grueling LP games because of some abandons due to personal issues irl, but with no more reports or abandons or anything after getting my 2 victories, I randomly get another 3 games and I don't understand.
[QUOTE=Clovis;51148861]why would i argue a point to you when you've demonstrated to me you are possibly just going to berate it with some poor reasoning[/QUOTE]
I was asking how significant a change was in the most recent patch. There was no arguing.
They're doing it at the Wang Center? I hope they're all prepared for Boston's roads.
[QUOTE=CunningHam;51148911]I really hesitate to call any hero OP this patch[/QUOTE]
LEGIT pic of outside icefrog's house
[t]https://a.pomf.cat/assxte.jpg[/t]
whys he live in a corrugated warehouse
maybe that is a home in brazil
[QUOTE=Anonymuzz;51149435]whys he live in a corrugated warehouse[/QUOTE]
he has to go incognito so people don't recognize him
[editline]4th October 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=KillRay;51149455]maybe that is a home in brazil[/QUOTE]
i'm not from rio aka "favela and niggers kkkkkk"
i live in glorious south brazil that's filled with germanic people
[QUOTE=aydin690;51148574][URL="http://blog.dota2.com/2016/10/the-boston-major/"]Boston major Dec 7-10 boys. [/URL][/QUOTE]
[quote]Sixteen teams will battle through a [b]single-elimination[/b] playoff bracket in best-of-three matches, with a best-of-five Grand Finals to determine the winner of the $3,000,000 prize pool.[/quote]
Not looking good for EG.
[QUOTE=Quq;51148653]sydney major please[/QUOTE]
With our shitty uploads it'll never happen unless it was being streamed direct from Sydney Universities' network.
[QUOTE=Arktomys;51149491]he has to go incognito so people don't recognize him
[editline]4th October 2016[/editline]
i'm not from rio aka "favela and niggers kkkkkk"
i live in glorious south brazil that's filled with germanic people[/QUOTE]
Argentina is white!!
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;51149659]Argentina is white!![/QUOTE]
ironically enough south brazil has a higher white percentage than america
20% higher
but nope, we're all monkey haha lol
[QUOTE=Arktomys;51149910]ironically enough south brazil has a higher white percentage than america
20% higher
but nope, we're all monkey haha lol[/QUOTE]
Rio if Clinton Wins.
[QUOTE=Clovis;51148861]
[editline]3rd October 2016[/editline]
the only difference this change makes is its less "OP" when trying to get kills in lane with a support. after early laning theres obviously no difference, it just prevents her from being able to dagger opponents you attempt to kill in lane while standing safely away from the creepwave like some PA's are literally forced to do[/QUOTE]
From what I heard, this was more so in response to an off-meta PA roaming build that was actually possessive of some merit recently, rather than trying to nerf PA's safelane farming.
When you're 2k mmr and you think you can make a balanced sniper.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/XsqqDvg.png[/t]
Fun fact: 8000 units is the distance between top lane and bottom lane. I thought it was more than that so I went 27 0 0 in an unfair bought match.
I also forgot how much damage sniper does late game so a 250 damage per second shrapnel that follows targets is pretty [del]broken[/del] balanced..
When I made my "unfair" sniper while editing values, I changed his BAT from 1.7 to 4.0, base attack damage gained like a 100% boost, made his attack range 1200 and abilities were:
Shrapnel: Global cast range
Take Aim: +200/400/600/800 attack range
Headshot: 100% proc chance, damage from 15/40/65/90 to 40/65/90/115
Assassinate: Global range, damage upped to 400/600/800, cooldown to 60/50/40
And I mean that was already enough to make the hero fucking immensely strong in bot games, can't imagine how fucking bonkers those changes are
[editline]5th October 2016[/editline]
Oh and my favorite was changing Lion's ultimate to dealing 1234567890 pure damage, but be on a 6/5/4 minute cooldown (5/4/3 min cooldown with aghs, also 100 AoE with aghs) so Lion bot would just walk up to people and finger them to death in an instant
Refresher orb
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