Dota 2 General Chat XXXII - 6.88 will make the ancient summon robot miners and TPs will be free

[dannyketch]

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;50308053]I'm pretty sure Shivas also has extremely strong stats and an extremely strong active (especially combined with items like blink and spells like Icarus Dive or Illusory Orb etc.)[/QUOTE]

I never thought about Illusionary Orb AND Shiva's.....That's really a cool thought. I wonder if it would work on Pudge, he gets stats, he get's the passive and then he hooks you into him and does the active..

[VulpesGrey]

Shivas on Storm is also all-around fantastic for similar reasons, too

[Enternode]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50307887]How do you have 1200 hours in dota 2 and not know shiva's has a passive? Like how's that even possible? It's mainly picked up for the passive.[/QUOTE]

Because I don't see nor buy a Shiva's

I think there is only four games of all the games I have played that I have seen one, and I have never bought it myself from what I can remember. Thus, I only came to notice the really fucking obvious circle that spawns when it's used.

I haven't gone through every single item and ability and read every little thing about them; I would have no use to do so.

There's no need to be a prick...

[VulpesGrey]

Disabling a bunch of blinks with the Shivas into (insert instant mobility here) combo is so satisfying especially when you can see the obvious panic they have

[dannyketch]

New build for CM - Arcane Boots into Guardian Greaves, Wind Lace (sell later) for Blink Dagger, Euls, Shiva's and Skadi.

Literally the "Let it Go" build.

[Enternode]

[QUOTE=dannyketch;50308103]New build for CM - Arcane Boots into Guardian Greaves, Wind Lace (sell later) for Blink Dagger, Euls, Shiva's and Skadi.

Literally the "Let it Go" build.[/QUOTE]

Wind Lace builds into Euls now

[dannyketch]

[QUOTE=TeamEnternode;50308106]Wind Lace builds into Euls now[/QUOTE]

All the more reason.

[Enternode]

[QUOTE=dannyketch;50308109]All the more reason.[/QUOTE]

To sell it?

[editline]12th May 2016[/editline]

[QUOTE=dannyketch;50308103]Wind Lace (sell later) for Blink Dagger[/quote]

[Dzonintz]

CM is really not a hero you're supposed to go arcanes/greaves since she has natural mana regen (you go for urn if you need heals plus you'll get mana regen with it anyway, and as bonus you should have charges on the thing too since CM is an offensive support), you will also literally never complete that Skadi and it will be useless anyway for obvious reasons. For Shiva's money you're better off getting BKB.

[dannyketch]

[QUOTE=TeamEnternode;50308111]To sell it?

[editline]12th May 2016[/editline][/QUOTE]

No I mean to get it in the first place. From what you're telling me, I was right about getting it, I just didn't know it built into Euls. Selling it came from a place of misinformation and un-education about the item.

In the refined build, Get Wind Lace, Don't sell it, build it into Euls.

[Enternode]

[QUOTE=Dzonintz;50308139]CM is really not a hero you're supposed to go arcanes/greaves since she has natural mana regen (you go for urn if you need heals plus you'll get mana regen with it anyway, and as bonus you should have charges on the thing too since CM is an offensive support), you will also literally never complete that Skadi and it will be useless anyway for obvious reasons. For Shiva's money you're better off getting BKB.[/QUOTE]

wooooooooooow

way to shoot down the joke build

noone else would eveeeer have seen those flaws

[dannyketch]

[QUOTE=Dzonintz;50308139] you will also literally never complete that Skadi and it will be useless anyway for obvious reasons [/QUOTE]

Someone doesn't believe in Disney magic.

I will try this build and post results.

[Enternode]

Ofc I queue for a game and Phoenix gets banned

[Dzonintz]

[QUOTE=TeamEnternode;50308151]wooooooooooow

way to shoot down the joke build

noone else would eveeeer have seen those flaws[/QUOTE]

Yeah well judging by the people's posts here I can't really tell if you're serious or not most of the time

[Skunky]

[QUOTE=TeamEnternode;50308095][B]Because I don't see nor buy a Shiva's[/B]

I think there is only four games of all the games I have played that I have seen one, and I have never bought it myself from what I can remember. Thus, I only came to notice the really fucking obvious circle that spawns when it's used.

I haven't gone through every single item and ability and read every little thing about them; I would have no use to do so.

There's no need to be a prick...[/QUOTE]

Literally no excuses on that. It's even in the item's description.

[Enternode]

[QUOTE=Skunky;50308717]Literally no excuses on that. It's even in the item's description.[/QUOTE]

...That I never really had a reason to read

Again, I didn't know. Fucking stop judging me over it.

[dannyketch]

[QUOTE=Skunky;50308717]Literally no excuses on that. It's even in the item's description.[/QUOTE]

There's no excuse for your gay panda avatar either but I still have the misfortune of looking at it....so here we are.

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[Gormaoife]

[QUOTE=dannyketch;50308797]There's no excuse for your gay panda avatar either but I still have the misfortune of looking at it....so here we are.[/QUOTE]

CRAWLING IN MY SKIN ....

THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAAAAAAAAALLLLLL

Nothing is wrong about his avatar.

[Skunky]

[QUOTE=dannyketch;50308797]There's no excuse for your gay panda avatar either but I still have the misfortune of looking at it....so here we are.[/QUOTE]

That's very mature of you. :v:

[dannyketch]

[QUOTE=Gorm;50308867]CRAWLING IN MY SKIN ....

THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAAAAAAAAALLLLLL[/QUOTE]

I am the embodiment of pure Edge.

[editline]12th May 2016[/editline]

On a serious note,

Dota 2 is going downhill fast. I understand there has to be subtle changes, I don't mind if they accidentally buff someone too much or nerf someone too hard and they fix it. Sure, changes in move speed. Sure, night vision. Sure, add new items....

but in order to keep things fresh they keep changing things that make the game what it is and what it was.

Why did we lose Backtrack? Why did we give Meepo a 20% increased spawn retimer just to take it away? Why did we change the recipes? (not talking new items into new things either). Why are we constantly changing the price (both up AND down) on observer wards?!!?

Don't get me started on Techies!

Maybe the problem isn't with some guy with 1200 hours or 1 million hours being a dumb-ass and not reading or knowing, maybe it's that even the biggest Dota pro's can't fucking keep up!

Baumi did a video recently about 6.87 or something and he didn't understand half of the changes or the reasoning behind them.

[editline]12th May 2016[/editline]

[QUOTE=Gorm;50308867]

Nothing is wrong about his avatar.[/QUOTE]

Well, I respectfully disagree with you sir.

Now if you'll excuse me I have real women to look at, I'll be back after I go to the store and get a jar of vaseline and a dvd copy of The Iron Giant.

[aydin690]

[QUOTE=TeamEnternode;50308095]Because I don't see nor buy a Shiva's

I think there is only four games of all the games I have played that I have seen one, and I have never bought it myself from what I can remember. Thus, I only came to notice the really fucking obvious circle that spawns when it's used.

I haven't gone through every single item and ability and read every little thing about them; I would have no use to do so.

There's no need to be a prick...[/QUOTE]

It's not about being a prick. At the very least you should read the description of every single item and ability and now what they do. Same with patch logs, you must read every single line. It's a good idea to play every single hero at least once too.

[Nightfury Treann]

[QUOTE=dannyketch;50308797]There's no excuse for your gay panda avatar either but I still have the misfortune of looking at it....so here we are.[/QUOTE]

When you bring someone else's avatar out of nowhere in your discussion, don't expect people to take you serious then.

[Enternode]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50309119]It's not about being a prick. At the very least you should read the description of every single item and ability and now what they do. Same with patch logs, you must read every single line. It's a good idea to play every single hero at least once too.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't aware that Dota was a fucking Nazi camp

Do you have to play nothing but bots until you reach 2,000 MMR, or watch at least 50 hours of pro games in order to play ranked?

No.

All of this "you have to ____" bullshit is missing the point. Dota isn't just about neonazi competitive gameplay. It's also welcome to casual or semi-serious players who aren't interested in doing a bunch of fucking horseshit just to play a game they like.

[dannyketch]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50309119]It's not about being a prick. At the very least you should read the description of every single item and ability and now what they do. Same with patch logs, you must read every single line. It's a good idea to play every single hero at least once too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50309119]It's not about being a prick. At the very least you should read the description of every single item and ability and now what they do. Same with patch logs, you must read every single line. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50309119]Same with patch logs, you must read every single line. It's a good idea to play every single hero at least once too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50309119] Same with patch logs, you must read every single line.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50309119]you must read every single line. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50309119] you must[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50309119]every single line.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50309119]single line.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50309119][b]YOU MUST[/b][/QUOTE]

Oh okay, I thought this was a game. My mistake.

[editline]12th May 2016[/editline]

[QUOTE=Nightfury;50309135]When you bring someone else's avatar out of nowhere in your discussion, don't expect people to take you serious then.[/QUOTE]

.........Don't even get me started.

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[Gormaoife]

[QUOTE=dannyketch;50309170]Oh okay, I thought this was a game. My mistake.

[editline]12th May 2016[/editline]

.........Don't even get me started.[/QUOTE]

Probably want to take a minute and stop posting angsty shit because it is making you look like someone of lower intelligence.

Or just extremely edgy.

Or both.

[2pac2furious]

[QUOTE=Gorm;50309193]Probably want to take a minute and stop posting angsty shit because [B]it is making you look like someone of lower intelligence[/B].

Or just extremely edgy.

Or both.[/QUOTE]

now you're the edgy one

[Enternode]

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;50309286]Why are people starting to build BF on PA again?

Do people just like having no impact for a huge chunk of the game while the enemy team builds MKBs while PAs crits are only putting small dents in supports?[/QUOTE]

People never stopped (at least at my level)

It's an excellent farming item, especially on PA

Oh and dagger

[dannyketch]

The only PA build is Treads > BF > HOTD (into Satanic) > BKB > Butterfly > Abyssal

Alternatively, build six butterflies, proceed to pretend it is The Matrix.

[VulpesGrey]

Obviously you have no literal obligation to learn the intricacies of this game and read patch notes carefully, but by not doing so you're essentially doing your team a disservice in the long run.

Like, for real. If you play casually and for fun and all, where is the fun in losing because you have no clue what something does or what to do about it because you didn't care enough to learn? More importantly, if your lack of studying DOES ruin a game, do you seriously expect the rest of the team to just accept the fact that you're "playing for fun" when it cost them at least half an hour of their time?

[editline]12th May 2016[/editline]

When I play pubs, I'm playing for fun and to do goofy builds and such. Except I actually have fun because I'm not getting curbstomped from lack of game knowledge.

[dannyketch]

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;50309354]More importantly, if your lack of studying DOES ruin a game, do you seriously expect the rest of the team to just accept the fact that you're "playing for fun" when it cost them at least half an hour of their time?
.[/QUOTE]

I spent alot of time with this thinking and spent a VERY long time on minute details and basic and advanced mechanics, I finally learned after over 1200 hours and only having 733 MMR that I was wasting my time. I wasn't going to understand this game, I wasn't going to be the next Purge like I wanted and I was never going to be Pro.

But lets face it...

A. The only person I have never had a bad time playing is not one of but actually the best support player I've ever met but when I do bad, he laughs like crazy and I laugh at his failures. If we're 99-11 in 20 minutes, It's not a waste of time cause we enjoyed our company.

B. Playing this game as anything other than game is fucking stupid. Miracle (the highest mmr in game) more than likely has no education or back up plan when Dota 3 comes out.