Dota 2 General Chat XXXII - 6.88 will make the ancient summon robot miners and TPs will be free

[TheAmazinRock]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50441798]lol no, across all brackets when he's picked, that team is 10% more likely to lose. Arc warden is objectively the single worst hero in the game. A while ago, bulldog randomed him and he spent the entire match bitching about how arc warden is the worst hero in the game and how he just doesn't do anything or fit any role.[/QUOTE]

I suppose he is a challenge to pick up and play properly. My friend built Lotus Orb, Glimmer Cape etc. and was able to use them multiple times throughout fights. He set up ganks and pick offs with Flux, since it's still an amazing skill for ganking with its insane range and duration (on a lone enemy), Spark Wraith acts as a good 50 second ward for chokepoints, Magnetic Field prevents pushing and also helps with pushing and his ultimate, Tempest Double just doubles all that utility.

He can't get much done alone and needs someone else to chip in for damage though, since outside of Flux he has no real direct damage unless he makes a Wraith Spark bomb somewhere and hopes the enemy walk into it. Also if an enemy is alone they can just TP away, so pairing him with Bloodcyka would be bad :v:

In all honesty though I'd take anything bulldog says with a pinch of salt... Since he can get pretty salty. He doesn't normally play support, does he? I'd like to see this video and watch him fail.

EDIT: oh yeah my friend built a Eul's Scepter to counter TPs

[aydin690]

Pretty much everybody plays him as a farming core. Necro 3, sheep, dagon 5, diffusal, manta, mjollnir, etc.

[fruityfruit]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50441870]Based on stats, objectively he's the worst hero in the game. Even in the 5k+ bracket but i guess those guys don't count because they need to 'git gud'.

I didn't mention sing sing either because a lot of you don't consider him to be a pro player anymore but he also randomed arc warden last week and he couldn't do shit with him either. I guess the opinion of pro (or ex-pro) players don't matter either.

What is your opinion based on then? Because however you slice it arc warden is a dumpster fire of a hero.[/QUOTE]

i'm trying to say u shouldn't eat up what every pro player says about a hero on stream and call it "based on stats"
i don't really play anymore but i watched a bunch of pro streams and they say stuff like that all the time because they're salty or just entertaining

[fog]

Support arc is okay

[TheAmazinRock]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50441902]Pretty much everybody plays him as a farming core. Necro 3, sheep, dagon 5, diffusal, manta, mjollnir, etc.[/QUOTE]

Of course. Bleh. Trust the Dota community to be greedy fucks in everything they play.
Arc Warden is a bad carry, but a good support depending on the enemy lineup.

Also what fruityfruit said: Don't eat up what pro players say. They're just players after all, and from what I understand a lot of them are also cunts who report someone on a whim ie: a single missed hook.

[fog]

I mean carry arc was super broken last patch but the hero was hit pretty hard

[TheAmazinRock]

Amazingly broken. I'm sure most of the dota community sighed with relief when he can no longer do his refreshed midas/BKB/Necronomicon/TP boots bullshit with a Divine Rapier.

[aydin690]

Well, the most common build is midas into dagon 5 eblade now.

[Eluveitie]

ey yo, if you aint got onto the ignoring your angry teammates, i suggest you do it, it genuinely makes all my games 10 times as relaxing.

[editline]2nd June 2016[/editline]

[QUOTE=TheAmazinRock;50441991]Amazingly broken. I'm sure most of the dota community sighed with relief when he can no longer do his refreshed midas/BKB/Necronomicon/TP boots bullshit with a Divine Rapier.[/QUOTE]

broken in the sense that if you didn't destroy his lane or have a counter, he was OP.

Similar to how slark is right now.

[ASIC]

[QUOTE=Yahnich;50438728]i lost to a jungle aa and i'll never live it down[/QUOTE]

I once lost to sidelane tinker.

Have you ever seen anyone do jungle tinker?

[editline]2nd June 2016[/editline]

Forgot to mention, I have 5 games of low priority again. :suicide:

[VulpesGrey]

[QUOTE=ASIC;50442375]I once lost to sidelane tinker.[/QUOTE]

This is actually legit though??

[Rarara]

I remember many years ago fighting a jungle Sniper, god bless his soul, he had twelve deaths at the 20 min mark I believe.

[Quq]

[QUOTE=ASIC;50442375]Have you ever seen anyone do jungle tinker?
[/QUOTE]

i did it once when someone stole mid from me. it wasn't good but we won

[arktomys]

[QUOTE=aydin690;50441798]Techies is objectively the single worst hero in the game..[/QUOTE]

fixed

[Quq]

[QUOTE=Arktomys;50443411]fixed[/QUOTE]

good

[Rarara]

[QUOTE=Arktomys;50443411]fixed[/QUOTE]

Arc Warden is definitely worse at this point.[QUOTE=devon_wargod;50444883]Here's some mathematics

A negative times a negative results in a positive. This was the justification behind Shadowblade and MoM on Sniper in yon old days, and it was found to be the only way to make Sniper good back in those days.

you get what I'm saying?[/QUOTE]

So you're saying... if I have Techies and Arc Warden on the same team I will win every game?

[arktomys]

[QUOTE=Rarara;50443547]Arc Warden is definitely worse at this point.[/QUOTE]

no he's not

you can still do some plays as ark warden

techies is just plain useless, he provides virtually nothing to the team now

[VulpesGrey]

Here's some mathematics

A negative times a negative results in a positive. This was the justification behind Shadowblade and MoM on Sniper in yon old days, and it was found to be the only way to make Sniper good back in those days.

you get what I'm saying?

[ferrous]

Shout out to the PA that didn't get a BKB in a 50 min game against Brewmaster, missing 75% of her attacks in every fight.

[url]http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2408292050[/url]

[Velly]

For those thinking about creating new effigies but did not had enough motivation -

[b]The return of custom effigies[/b]

[IMG]http://new.tinygrab.com/4e62f66da7c73371bf99f982be3cdabf4451878a92.png[/IMG]

Basically a few weeks ago i found out that dota2 will read animation_statues.txt script in workshop tools mode, and will create effigy using unlisted animations with no problem.

So the complete method to add unlisted animations:
1.Download Workshop tools dlc from steam
2.Get vpk extractor (GCFscape)
3.Via workshop tools, create custom addon, then locate it's folder in "dota 2 beta\game\dota_addons" and create/locate [b]scripts[/b] folder in it
4.Locate "pak01_dir.vpk" in "dota 2 beta\game\dota" and extract from it "scripts/[b]animation_statues.txt[/b]" in your recently created addon folder

To add unlisted animations, open animation_statues.txt in your addon, then launch dota 2 tools, and in Asset browser find and load your specific hero model:

[t]http://new.tinygrab.com/4e62f66da7d1109ae7aefe8973e6bb6fec9e52b89d.png[/t]

In preview window you can browse all aviable [b]Sequences[/b] aka animations of hero's model.
Now in animation_statues.txt script, scroll down to your specific hero

[QUOTE=] "models/heroes/wraith_king/wraith_king.vmdl"
{
"teleport" "1"
"idle_alt" "1"
"loadout" "1"
"loadout_salvaged" "salvaged_sword"
"cast1_hellfire_blast" "1"
"attack_crit" "1"
"attack_crit_alt" "1"
"attack_crit_wraith_spin" "wraith_spin"
"attack" "1"
"attack2" "1"
"attack3" "1"
"idle" "1"
"idle_alt" "1"
"idle_injured" "1"
"flail" "1"
"stun" "1"
"teleport_end" "1"
"defeat" "1"
"victory" "1"
"forcestaff" "1"
"death_reincarnation" "1"
}[/quote]

You'll see these sequens referenced, and in order to add unlisted one, simply copypaste lane then change sequence's name to the one youre interested in
[quote] "cast_frostivus" "1"[/quote]

Some of these sequences will not be visible in effigy creation tool unless you have centrain item/kinetic gem equiped, and in order to fix it...
[quote] "loadout_salvaged" "salvaged_sword"[/quote]
Simply change following text after sequence name to "1".
[quote] "loadout_salvaged" "1"[/quote]

Save your script, then relaunch dota2 client [b]with tools[/b], launch your custom addon with Asset browser running on background, and switch to ingame client window, then use your effigy to see if there are any changes

[t]http://new.tinygrab.com/4e62f66da77b97a2f29fe4aed0d632634c6a9056bc.png[/t]

If yes - then congratulations, if not - then i am an idiot but at least its working for me so gotta rewrite this or something...

[b]Notable animations[/b]: axe's spins, lycan wisp cosplaying, terrorblade deaths, unusued non-arcana floating cm, bara's unused immortal charge animation, AM's sonic cosplay, bunch of unused tide, furion and juggernaut taunts, alternative invoker spawning animation, arcana techies camtaunts and more...

[t]http://new.tinygrab.com/4e62f66da7d0e763cff4fc81bd411a3c4d6bc1ddeb.png[/t] [t]http://new.tinygrab.com/4e62f66da772ecba0300dc9bce29cccb49343acee6.png[/t] [t]http://new.tinygrab.com/4e62f66da7b847725a96f591870d9c764e39af7ba8.png[/t]

Have fun

[fog]

are these only locally visable

[ferrous]

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be visible for others.

[FlashMarsh]

So... how do I actually play support? I just don't get it, I feel at the mercy of my team when I play support. And it just feels so boring, and I don't know why. I almost want to fall asleep.

[VulpesGrey]

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50446093]So... how do I actually play support? I just don't get it, I feel at the mercy of my team when I play support. And it just feels so boring, and I don't know why. I almost want to fall asleep.[/QUOTE]

Play a roamer or someone with strong early burst and just go around smacking bitches up

[FlashMarsh]

And what do you do if you start losing?

[tninbu]

Report everyone, then disconnect

[jp_rsardeto]

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50446163]And what do you do if you start losing?[/QUOTE]

feed couriers xd

[unlimi_Ted]

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50446163]And what do you do if you start losing?[/QUOTE]

ask yourself why you're not playing Lion

[Skunky]

[QUOTE=VeLlix;50445446]For those thinking about creating new effigies but did not had enough motivation -

[B]helpful stuff goes here[/B]
[/QUOTE]

Hey cool, I've been trying to figure out a way to get that shit to work. Still have the Invoker workshop animation and Techies' death animation effigies from before they removed -override_vpk.

[zipziggy]

holo crap malina major has picture in picture that can show 2 diffrent parts of the match at once

courier cams

stack cams

lane cams

rune cams

soo much production value :v: