• D&D 5e: Nobody Talks about D&D
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My group has been trying to get together for almost a month now (we normally play once every week or occasionally two weeks). With all luck we will finally be able to play Saturday and I'll get the chance to play a new character (old one died with an <1% of failing the combination of rolls).
[QUOTE=Rats808;50074364]To be fair, from what I know, Geist [I]is[/I] basically the best anime. [sp]Jojo's Bizarre Adventures[/sp] :dog: [editline]5th April 2016[/editline] For those who aren't aware, in Geist you play someone who died, but right on the brink of death got an offer from a powerful ghost that's basically "keep living as the servant of your ghostly sugar-daddy who will ride around in your mind from now on, or die." They can do some pretty cool shit, and iirc a lot of it involves their Geist visibly separating from their body to do the things, a la a Stand. It's just that nobody heard of it because it was published right before White Wolf went under and the first book they put out was full of massive errors, which lead to a reprint shortly after release and nothing else being put out for it(Besides a couple of adventures).[/QUOTE] There's actually been one source book released beside the base rules called The Book of the Dead if I understand it correctly.
[QUOTE=kobalt;50073359]Was chatting with some of my friends on Discord about the fun I've had GMing tabletops. Long story short, I now have seven players lined up for a Pathfinder game. I've gotten in over my head, send help.[/QUOTE] This is why when people in the mumble go 'this game would be cool', our 2 gms go 'mhmm' and dismiss cause weve easily got 12 games on the backlog now
[QUOTE=Anderan;50078560]There's actually been one source book released beside the base rules called The Book of the Dead if I understand it correctly.[/QUOTE] Book of Spirits isn't a Geist book. It's a World of Darkness Blue Book, intended for use with every line. Geist literally only got a core book, nothing else that relates to its subject matter has any direct links to it. Personally, I'm hopeful they announce Geist 2e at GenCon this year. :dog:
[QUOTE=Rats808;50078884]Book of Spirits isn't a Geist book. It's a World of Darkness Blue Book, intended for use with every line. Geist literally only got a core book, nothing else that relates to its subject matter has any direct links to it. Personally, I'm hopeful they announce Geist 2e at GenCon this year. :dog:[/QUOTE] I guess I misunderstood, though the wiki says one of the chapters is dedicated to Geist with a new Key and Manifestation so that's something at least. More material would definitely be nice but I have no idea how popular Geist is compared to the other lines or how well it actually sells.
[QUOTE=Anderan;50079130]I guess I misunderstood, though the wiki says one of the chapters is dedicated to Geist with a new Key and Manifestation so that's something at least. More material would definitely be nice but I have no idea how popular Geist is compared to the other lines or how well it actually sells.[/QUOTE] The short version is that it's not. I think it's probably more popular than Mummy, maybe Beast too but that's hard to say considering it just came out. Those three are by far the least popular nWoD lines, though. (or Chronicles of Darkness, w/e)
Old world of darkness combat is so horrible. So horribly horrible but with just that 'this could be a really good system' behind it to make it worth using. Like yesterday two werewolves happened to rank up at the same time so their test was to hurt a bigger, way stronger werewolf in a 2v1 duel. Three rounds of combat between three characters. Half an hour, about 9 seconds in game time. Huge dice pools and success counting and then subtracting from the dodge and then calculating the damage+the Cary over and then rolling for soak and...
[QUOTE=The Jack;50080089]Old world of darkness combat is so horrible. So horribly horrible but with just that 'this could be a really good system' behind it to make it worth using. Like yesterday two werewolves happened to rank up at the same time so their test was to hurt a bigger, way stronger werewolf in a 2v1 duel. Three rounds of combat between three characters. Half an hour, about 9 seconds in game time. Huge dice pools and success counting and then subtracting from the dodge and then calculating the damage+the Cary over and then rolling for soak and...[/QUOTE] i don't think you've ever seen a huge dicepool do you even shadowrun Also, while oWoD's combat system is by no means great, I think calling it terrible is a pretty huge exaggeration.
[QUOTE=elowin;50080926]i don't think you've ever seen a huge dicepool do you even shadowrun Also, while oWoD's combat system is by no means great, I think calling it terrible is a pretty huge exaggeration.[/QUOTE] im gonna miss our street sam rollling 46 armor die
I am not Also, first session with the new half of the party. They fought a super-sized basilisk, and basically nobody did well on either side, up until the face got 7 successes to hit and blew it's head off with her Ares Predator
World of darkness though, guys. "You put the shotgun into his mouth and pull the trigger" -He soaks it.
To be fair that is most game systems Such as, say, Shadowrun, where two sessions ago a player survived a .44 magnum execution to the skull (though bled out and burned edge shortly thereafter, so calling it tanking probably is being generous), or the eternal 'are HP actual HP or dodging debate' in PF/D&D I will agree however that White Wolf chugs paste when it comes to writing crunch, pretty much universally across all their games
[QUOTE=The Jack;50084182]World of darkness though, guys. "You put the shotgun into his mouth and pull the trigger" -He soaks it.[/QUOTE] With something like that, unless the armor is coming from magical shit like Vampire Resilience, it shouldn't apply. You're literally unloading buckshot INTO THEIR MOUTH. Unless you're Luke fuckin' Cage, you aren't just gonna soak that. [editline]6th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=SiberysTranq;50084249]To be fair that is most game systems Such as, say, Shadowrun, where two sessions ago a player survived a .44 magnum execution to the skull (though bled out and burned edge shortly thereafter, so calling it tanking probably is being generous), or the eternal 'are HP actual HP or dodging debate' in PF/D&D I will agree however that White Wolf chugs paste when it comes to writing crunch, pretty much universally across all their games[/QUOTE] Onyx Path has been doing better with the mechanics, I think. They're even giving each 2e book an index! :dogcited: [sp]Only with White Wolf-owned properties could one be so excited about an index.[/sp] Granted, Exalted 3e is still iffy in some spots, but it's still a direct upgrade to anything that was in 2e.
[QUOTE=SiberysTranq;50084249]To be fair that is most game systems Such as, say, Shadowrun, where two sessions ago a player survived a .44 magnum execution to the skull (though bled out and burned edge shortly thereafter, so calling it tanking probably is being generous), or the eternal 'are HP actual HP or dodging debate' in PF/D&D I will agree however that White Wolf chugs paste when it comes to writing crunch, pretty much universally across all their games[/QUOTE] Burning edge isn't soaking it, it's plot armour
Can someone explain how to play this game? Because in my country, we had no such game. And I'm dying to know how to play it. The tutorial in YTube is quite hard to understand for me. Thanks!
[QUOTE=raden92;50085391]Can someone explain how to play this game? Because in my country, we had no such game. And I'm dying to know how to play it. The tutorial in YTube is quite hard to understand for me. Thanks![/QUOTE] And which game would that be?
[QUOTE=raden92;50085391]Can someone explain how to play this game? Because in my country, we had no such game. And I'm dying to know how to play it. The tutorial in YTube is quite hard to understand for me. Thanks![/QUOTE] I'm assuming you're talking about D&D. I would start with 5th edition, for which the starter rules are available for free [url=http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/basicrules]here[/url]. If you want more, buy the starter set, and if you really want to get into it, buy the Player's Handbook, Monster Manual and Dungeon Master's Guide.
I'm pretty sure they have D&D in Poland
[QUOTE=Nerts;50085131]Burning edge isn't soaking it, it's plot armour[/QUOTE] Yes, but the important part here was that a Ruger Warhawk to the skull didn't instantly kill the squishiest member of the party, and if everyone else hadn't proceeded to die all it would take is a medkit and healing spell to walk it off
[QUOTE=Nerts;50085131]Burning edge isn't soaking it, it's plot armour[/QUOTE] the gunshot wasn't what killed him, it was the bleedout tho the edge was for 'managed to not bleed to death and got dumped into a landfill'
[QUOTE=The Jack;50084182]World of darkness though, guys. "You put the shotgun into his mouth and pull the trigger" -He soaks it.[/QUOTE] No human can do this, though? You can't soak lethal damage at all without armor or supernatural bullshit. And there's no armor in your throat. A normal human won't even get the opportunity to try to soak any of the damage from that.
[QUOTE=SiberysTranq;50085967]Yes, but the important part here was that a Ruger Warhawk to the skull didn't instantly kill the squishiest member of the party, and if everyone else hadn't proceeded to die all it would take is a medkit and healing spell to walk it off[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=No Party Hats;50085969]the gunshot wasn't what killed him, it was the bleedout tho the edge was for 'managed to not bleed to death and got dumped into a landfill'[/QUOTE] Really? A warhawk does 9P AP-2, if we call getting shot in the head a vitals called shot that's 11P plus successes on the attack and I'd assume he couldn't dodge from the sound of that
[QUOTE=Nerts;50085941]I'm pretty sure they have D&D in Poland[/QUOTE] Except his flag is Indonesia, not Poland.
[QUOTE=Anderan;50086396]Except his flag is Indonesia, not Poland.[/QUOTE] Nah Caister's Indonesian, that guy's polish
[QUOTE=Nerts;50086391]Really? A warhawk does 9P AP-2, if we call getting shot in the head a vitals called shot that's 11P plus successes on the attack and I'd assume he couldn't dodge from the sound of that[/QUOTE] it's also a point blank execution. you really oughtn't need to roll for that
[QUOTE=elowin;50086229]No human can do this, though? You can't soak lethal damage at all without armor or supernatural bullshit. And there's no armor in your throat. A normal human won't even get the opportunity to try to soak any of the damage from that.[/QUOTE] Say it's a ghoul, the lowest level of supernatural persons. They can soak lethal. He could survive. Or alternatively, your damage roll was really, really, really shit, which happens. Silver weapons have let me down more than my character's 18 children she's birthed in her 5 years of life.
[QUOTE=Nerts;50086391]Really? A warhawk does 9P AP-2, if we call getting shot in the head a vitals called shot that's 11P plus successes on the attack and I'd assume he couldn't dodge from the sound of that[/QUOTE] It was 15 damage since the guard doing it bought successes with his shooting dice (because the target was tied up and immobile) They literally aced their body roll (no armor), and only ended up taking 11, which put her in overflow but not dead, incredibly. And then fight broke out because the rest of the party (also tied up), tried to fight back, and proceeded to actually manage to kill a few guards before two of them were unceremoniously killed and the other two also ate bullets and burned edge Ultimately, the result was basically the same, because the party was dumb and put themselves in two TPK situations then didn't take the way out that was offered to them, ended up all burning edge or dead, which is incidentally why all my plots are in shambles because we replaced 3/5 party members but the relevance to the topic was that a relatively unaugmented human managed to not instantly die to an execution because I tend to go RaW as much as I can, which is pretty common across RPG's (In fact, I'm pretty sure half the joke behind Pheonix Command was that it was made precisely so that sort of thing DOESN'T happen)
[QUOTE=The Jack;50086733]Say it's a ghoul, the lowest level of supernatural persons. They can soak lethal. He could survive.[/QUOTE] If it's supernatural it's fine. They're sort of supposed to be really durable, y'know? It's a setting thing, not a system thing. [QUOTE=The Jack;50086733]Or alternatively, your damage roll was really, really, really shit, which happens. [/QUOTE] If your damage roll is supremely shit, you probably fucked up somehow. Maybe you just blasted out one of their cheeks instead. [QUOTE=The Jack;50086733]Silver weapons have let me down more than my character's 18 children she's birthed in her 5 years of life.[/QUOTE] what the fuck
[QUOTE=The Jack;50086733]Silver weapons have let me down more than my character's 18 children she's birthed in her 5 years of life.[/QUOTE] So... I'm guessing there is a story behind this.
[QUOTE=SiberysTranq;50086770]It was 15 damage since the guard doing it bought successes with his shooting dice (because the target was tied up and immobile) They literally aced their body roll (no armor), and only ended up taking 11, which put her in overflow but not dead, incredibly. And then fight broke out because the rest of the party (also tied up), tried to fight back, and proceeded to actually manage to kill a few guards before two of them were unceremoniously killed and the other two also ate bullets and burned edge Ultimately, the result was basically the same, because the party was dumb and put themselves in two TPK situations then didn't take the way out that was offered to them, ended up all burning edge or dead, which is incidentally why all my plots are in shambles because we replaced 3/5 party members but the relevance to the topic was that a relatively unaugmented human managed to not instantly die to an execution because I tend to go RaW as much as I can, which is pretty common across RPG's (In fact, I'm pretty sure half the joke behind Pheonix Command was that it was made precisely so that sort of thing DOESN'T happen)[/QUOTE] This is why when you kill someone, you should shoot them again, just to be sure.
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