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[QUOTE=Jarokwa;50150627]i have, and it looks pointless. but hey maybe i just dislike unneccesary change.[/QUOTE] 284 Hours on record. 1.7 Hours last 2 weeks. Yup that explains alot.....

They're giving skilltrees much needed diversity and removing shitty skills that were a waste of points no matter the situation. How is that pointless?

It's "pointless" and "unnecessary" because casual players will be too lazy to reformat their builds

[QUOTE=NaRyan;50151087]284 Hours on record. 1.7 Hours last 2 weeks. Yup that explains alot.....[/QUOTE] who the fuck cares about his playtime holy shit

It shows how little he's actually invested and why he doesn't know that these are good changes I'm sure that stance has nothing to do with having even less playtime [editline]17th April 2016[/editline] Noticing he never denied having less than 300 hours nor denied not liking the game

Man, VB, you're just a bundle of fun, aren't you? Does anyone remember the role/purpose of the embedded structures on the back deck of Big Oil Day 2? Some sort of security system, maybe?

[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50151282]It shows how little he's actually invested and why he doesn't know that these are good changes[/QUOTE] it also has nothing to do with his actual points or opinions its like saying someone cant have a good idea because they are 16 ideas are judged by their content and reasoning and not by the person saying it. if his opinion is really stupid then surely it would be easy to attack the argument itself instead of just yelling at the dude because he has 16 hours less than 300. like i have over 1000 hours what if i had said that what would you have said then if you couldnt resort to a fucking retarded snipe on how little of his life he wasted on a video game

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;50151530]it also has nothing to do with his actual points or opinions its like saying someone cant have a good idea because they are 16 ideas are judged by their content and reasoning and not by the person saying it. if his opinion is really stupid then surely it would be easy to attack the argument itself instead of just yelling at the dude because he has 16 hours less than 300. like i have over 1000 hours what if i had said that what would you have said then if you couldnt resort to a fucking retarded snipe on how little of his life he wasted on a video game[/QUOTE] Chill, dude. I think yeah, refuting soemone's actual points or opinions is what needs to be done but [QUOTE=Jarokwa;50150420]still feel like the new skill trees are completely unneeded and a waste of time[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Jarokwa;50150627]i have, and it looks pointless. but hey maybe i just dislike unneccesary change.[/QUOTE] are not real points or arguments. It's also not unfair to say that someone who's invested 1 hour into CS:GO deathmatch doesn't understand the deeper parts of the game. Likewise, it's not that awful to say someone who hasn't invested that much time into playing Payday 2 doesn't really understand the changes and how they're not "unnecessary". Like lol, I get you should refute the points, but saying someone's time invested into a game is completely irrelevant to their in-depth knowledge is just a lie. I'm not saying be elitist about their playtime, cause imo anything past 100 hours is already a lot, but it's not such an outrageous statement. It's also not anything like saying someone that's 16 can't have good ideas. That's a really awful comparison.

[video=youtube;WGtnKv5JwSI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtnKv5JwSI[/video]

I just dislike the whole "oh you haven't played much in the last two weeks your opinion is null and void" thing.

It's not past two weeks, its period all time [editline]17th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;50151530]it also has nothing to do with his actual points[/QUOTE] He doesn't even have any

[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50151801]It's not past two weeks, its period all time [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=NaRyan;50151087]284 Hours on record. [B]1.7 Hours last 2 weeks[/B]. Yup that explains alot.....[/QUOTE] Although at this point this has sort of gone to threadshitting points, so probably best to leave it I guess.

[QUOTE=Jetamo;50152019]quote[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=RookieXtz;50150466]bet you have [b]less than 300 hours[/b] and don't even enjoy the game[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=NaRyan;50151087][b]284 Hours on record[/b]. 1.7 Hours last 2 weeks. Yup that explains alot.....[/QUOTE] Like I said, they're talking about all time.

I like how chaotic of a co-op game payday 2 is compared to other games, it captures the sort of crime movie feel with all these gunshots going off in the distance, combined with hearing your teammates communicate to one another. and I can't forget the good soundtrack too. on another note: I really like the manic perk deck, it's perfect for my techforcer build.

When is the new tree going live?

They aren't criticizing the game though, just complaining about positive changes being made from years of criticism buildup.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;50152128]I always check into the thread every few weeks to see if ovk are ever going to do anything interesting, fun, free, or a combination of 2 of those But its incidents like this that make me remember why I quit, this is like the worst game community aside from some parts of some mobas, like holy hell guys get some perspective and realize how on the spectrum you sound. 280 hours isnt enough to criticize a game? Give me a break.[/QUOTE]Its funny how less than 24 hours ago someone specifically pointed to the Payday 2 community as a counter to the statement that PvE inherently makes communities nicer.

[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50152146]They aren't criticizing the game though, just complaining about positive changes being made from years of criticism buildup.[/QUOTE] Do want to make it clear I wasn't defending him, I just think the reason of "you've barely played this game lol" is not a valid counterpoint. As far as the game goes Richy, they recently added those two Hardcore Henry heists and character pack for free, and the new skill tree beta should be coming out at the end of this month IIRC.

[QUOTE=Jetamo;50152155]Do want to make it clear I wasn't defending him, I just think the reason of "you've barely played this game lol" is not a valid counterpoint.[/QUOTE] I know, I wasn't defending the 300 hours issue, just explaining why it came up. It's not completely unreasonable to say that someone who doesn't get into it would rather keep garbage they are used to playing on off with than have to relearn things next time they play because the feedback is being used. It's a bias that's been seen before in other games that have had large re-balances, and even in some cases small buffs/nerfs. [editline]17th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=RichyZ;50152160]I know, I've been following it fairly closely for a couple of months since it seems like theres enough free stuff to warrant a reinstall[/QUOTE] I reinstalled recently because I heard that people on Steam were bitching about free guns that are remodels of DLC weapons and thought that them doing that is showing a little effort to alleviate pay2win

[QUOTE=Finale;50151424]Does anyone remember the role/purpose of the embedded structures on the back deck of Big Oil Day 2? Some sort of security system, maybe?[/QUOTE] You mean these? [t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/504776474585343544/1CF91AB64C83B325C68C4CA7BB8E09139177AD87/[/t] OVK cut these giant shutters after a while since they had trouble splitting the AI mesh properly and then making it act nicely when it was up/down. I tried to split it properly myself, and I could see how many problems they were having.

[QUOTE=PaperMartin;50149574][media]https://twitter.com/EricEtebari/status/720726920686477312[/media][/QUOTE] Obviously the hidden meth lab in the room next door.

[QUOTE=Dougley;50152961]You mean these? [t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/504776474585343544/1CF91AB64C83B325C68C4CA7BB8E09139177AD87/[/t] OVK cut these giant shutters after a while since they had trouble splitting the AI mesh properly and then making it act nicely when it was up/down. I tried to split it properly myself, and I could see how many problems they were having.[/QUOTE] I see- awesome, thanks!

Wait so like Is there no more skills to reload smgs or Assault Rifles faster besides shock and awe ace?

[QUOTE=Nickolas;50153916]Wait so like Is there no more skills to reload smgs or Assault Rifles faster besides shock and awe ace?[/QUOTE] Running from death basic and Aggressive reload, but that's it I think

[QUOTE=DS_;50153942]Running from death basic and Aggressive reload, but that's it I think[/QUOTE] That's rather dumb They always felt painfully slow without skills, and now there don't exist any Is there run while reloading at least

I'm fine with slower reloads, it adds a slower pace to the game.

[QUOTE=TechnoSandwic;50154033]I'm fine with slower reloads, it adds a slower pace to the game.[/QUOTE] :what:

[QUOTE=TechnoSandwic;50154033]I'm fine with slower reloads, it adds a slower pace to the game.[/QUOTE] I can understand having slower reloads for high capacity weapons like LMGs but for my AR that has a .30-caliber clip with the ability to fire 30 bullets within half a second? ????

[QUOTE=Zadrave;50154068]:what:[/QUOTE] Slow reloads are the new 30fps lock; it's more cinematic!

[QUOTE=Zadrave;50154068]:what:[/QUOTE] They even mo-cap reload animations at 210fps, so you can see the high details and fluid movements in slow-mo! Wait no I got the wrong game.