PAYDAY 2 V9 - 900% More Chromatic Aberration and Lens dirt Edition - Games

Is the skill that doubles a pistol's RoF broken? Doesn't seem like it's working.

[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;50239097]Is the skill that doubles a pistol's RoF broken? Doesn't seem like it's working.[/QUOTE] atm it's either broken and not working or pistols have their RoF capped for whatever reason. I've noticed most of them don't seem to go above 361 fire rate, with a few getting slightly higher.

[QUOTE=Nickolas;50238581]I think some of you people just worry too much about stats Every gun is fine Vanilla as long as you know how to use them the best[/QUOTE] Balance was broken pre-crimefest. Guns that were better in every way than others ? Plentiful. In balance post-crimefest, every single weapon can be used pretty effectively and there are nearly none that are 100% better than others. The way it is right now is more than fine.

[QUOTE=SC;50238450]Not everyone agrees with Overkill's horrendous idea of what's "fun" or "balanced", and modders have proven time and time again that they can actually do a better job than Overkill at times. Seriously I can't play vanilla Payday 2 because it genuinely isn't fun, their idea of balancing overpowered weapons/skills is just to make everything overpowered.[/QUOTE] So, what exactly does this have to do with online play compatibility?

[QUOTE=SC;50232715]It's because Overkill decided it'd be a great idea to give every [B]single enemy[/B] the "easy" domination preset. Which means exactly what it means, they'll surrender if you even LOOK in their general direction. [/QUOTE] I honestly like the sound of this. The ability to dominate cops was in dire need of a buff. I always take the mastermind as one half of my skill tree and ive found dominating/converting cops is borderline useless (any skills related to maintaing control of a cop for any length of time are even more laughably useless) when playing with pubs . Every game I would spend the entire assault wave shouting [b] ARMS OUTSTRETCHED[/B] at cops, finally get a dude on my side, and then have every moron in the game walk over and shoot the cop with the pretty blue line around him. Yeah that stat boost while I have a converted enemy is really paying for itself. Even worse is when you get some idiot who goes around executing all the cuffed cops, Gets in custody ,and then closes the lobby when you don't have anyone to trade for them. They either need to keep it like this where you can sneeze at cops and have them join you, or just make them completely immune to friendly fire. Because otherwise it just feels like wasted skill points.

[QUOTE=SC;50238450] Not everyone agrees with Overkill's horrendous idea of what's "fun" or "balanced", and modders have proven time and time again that they can actually do a better job than Overkill at times. Seriously I can't play vanilla Payday 2 because it genuinely isn't fun, their idea of balancing overpowered weapons/skills is just to make everything overpowered.[/QUOTE] No one is stopping you from playing a different game.

[QUOTE=HappyHead;50239673]No one is stopping you from playing a different game.[/QUOTE] and no one is stopping him from modding his game; what's your point exactly?

[QUOTE=Gunzers6;50239206]atm it's either broken and not working or pistols have their RoF capped for whatever reason. I've noticed most of them don't seem to go above 361 fire rate, with a few getting slightly higher.[/QUOTE] It's because the effect is additive which results in the skill effect barely making a difference, especially now that they've lowered pistol RoFs. [QUOTE=Guiboune;50239485]Balance was broken pre-crimefest. Guns that were better in every way than others ? Plentiful. In balance post-crimefest, every single weapon can be used pretty effectively and there are nearly none that are 100% better than others. The way it is right now is more than fine.[/QUOTE] The problem now is that you can just turn DW into a complete cakewalk with the new "balance". Passive Regen, knocking over Bulldozers, further nerfing enemy shields by letting us knock them over with bullets, high damage, 6 buffed sentries, high base stat weapons and a whole lot of other shitter bait.

[QUOTE=Jarokwa;50239697]god damnit I want the cool version of Jimmy's mask why is there still no proper way of obtaining the mask you want besides being lucky with sidejobs/farming gagecoins[/QUOTE] I just wished his duct tape mask looked like the one in the trailer. It had a very unique style and shape to it [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82063674/jimmy.jpg[/t] Instead it just looks like any other ordinary mask, smoothed down and boring. [t]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SbtlFXMFvw4/maxresdefault.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=SlickBlade;50240042]I just wished his duct tape mask looked like the one in the trailer. It had a very unique style and shape to it [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82063674/jimmy.jpg[/t] Instead it just looks like any other ordinary mask, smoothed down and boring. [t]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SbtlFXMFvw4/maxresdefault.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] If we could still see the eyes and the nose I think it'd look nicer.

A dev responded to my report of the pistol fire rate not increasing, so that should be fixed soon enough

[QUOTE=SlickBlade;50240042]I just wished his duct tape mask looked like the one in the trailer. It had a very unique style and shape to it [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82063674/jimmy.jpg[/t] Instead it just looks like any other ordinary mask, smoothed down and boring. [t]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SbtlFXMFvw4/maxresdefault.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] The best bit is that the black parts on the nose and mouth are just dark bits of the texture. If you customize is they become a darker shade of whatever the material is.

Just opted into the beta, hoo boy the Domination, Joker and Knockdown shenanigans are really something else.

Having the ability to have 6 sentries (buffed ones at that) is also incredibly cheesy.

[QUOTE=DeadMansChest;50242828]Having the ability to have 6 sentries (buffed ones at that) is also incredibly cheesy.[/QUOTE] Set them all to Slowfire AP mode... turn your volume down.

[QUOTE=t h e;50239838]and no one is stopping him from modding his game; what's your point exactly?[/QUOTE] Probably just that if the game really is as flawed as he's making out, maybe it's not worth playing? Mods are mods but if you really consider the current state of the weapon balance 'intrinsically unfun' I doubt any number of rebalance mods are going to fix the game for you.

[video=youtube;J2Qd7F2sAfo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Qd7F2sAfo[/video] who needs guns when you have AP turrets? (AP bullets not included, shield penetration not guaranteed) How is this armor piercing if it ain't piercing?

Or better yet use iron man and just knock them with your bullet

[QUOTE=HappyHead;50244602]Or better yet use iron man and just knock them with your bullet[/QUOTE] It's bulletproof aced now, and knocking them around doesn't remove the captain with his buff

I once managed to seperate Winters from his squad and he wouldn't reassemble [t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/500274055417127643/1D7678E2F0CFE71D97D24D244CA466BFCFD63A0D/[/t] According to my friend he didn't see it happen on his end

I managed to keep winters stun locked with a shotgun for several minutes trying to push him into the underground area in HM. Ultimately I failed.

I both hate and love the new skills FAKs + swan songs make me the god of akimbo

Swan Song together with those anti-down FAK's are the most cheap thing I've seen it used not long back, and man could he live forever [url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-bYcYu2zg5Fa_sT9QO2De2Mdoj63Pee_kts0uuRVLGw/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#]Friendly reminder to check the spreadsheet for issues that they are aware off/have fixed[/url] [editline]3rd May 2016[/editline] [quote] Use deployed First Aid Kits before swansong activates[/quote] Speaking of the devil [editline]3rd May 2016[/editline] It seems they update the spreadsheet before shipping the update But why is Gun Nut aced only 50%? It says 100% increase

[QUOTE=Nickolas;50245869]Swan Song together with those anti-down FAK's are the most cheap thing I've seen it used not long back, and man could he live forever [url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-bYcYu2zg5Fa_sT9QO2De2Mdoj63Pee_kts0uuRVLGw/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#]Friendly reminder to check the spreadsheet for issues that they are aware off/have fixed[/url] [editline]3rd May 2016[/editline] Speaking of the devil [editline]3rd May 2016[/editline] It seems they update the spreadsheet before shipping the update But why is Gun Nut aced only 50%? It says 100% increase[/QUOTE] Hmm, the Repeater 1874 not working with Aggressive Reload isn't on there. Am I the only one with that issue? Or do other people have that same problem? I'm hoping it's not a mod, because I don't know what it could be, since I don't have any mods that alter weapons.

[QUOTE=Nickolas;50245869] [url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-bYcYu2zg5Fa_sT9QO2De2Mdoj63Pee_kts0uuRVLGw/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#]Friendly reminder to check the spreadsheet for issues that they are aware off/have fixed[/url] [/QUOTE] Is this spreadsheet something internal to OVK, or is it from some other source? [url=http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197962880118/posthistory/]Seven from the steam forums[/url] is a good source of additional things that are wrong with the beta atm; It's a bit stalkery, but I like reading his forum post history to find out new things going on in the game's files.

[QUOTE=RookieXtz;50244558][video=youtube;J2Qd7F2sAfo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Qd7F2sAfo[/video] who needs guns when you have AP turrets? (AP bullets not included, shield penetration not guaranteed) How is this armor piercing if it ain't piercing?[/QUOTE] Maybe it pierce the armor and nothing else.

Another update for the beta just went out: [quote]Evasion aced fall damage reduction effect now works without investing in any skills Reduced Heavy Impact Basic chance to activate from 20% to 5% Reduced Heavy Impact Ace chance to activate from 60% to 20% The ability to reload while running has been added to the Evation Ace skill The Gun Nut skill will now correctly incease the rate of fire for pistols by 50% Removed total ammo penalty from shotgun ammo type 000 Buckshot. Ammo pick up is no longer limited for shotgun ammo types.[/quote]

Most of those were listed on the spreadsheet So that confirms it as valid source of info

[QUOTE=Gunzers6;50249555]Another update for the beta just went out:[/QUOTE] Heavy Impact got nerfed, bummer, but it needed it. 20% is still pretty high for automatic weapons. What do you guys think of Body Expertise? What I really freaking hope they do is make Aced Fully Loaded stack with Walk-In Closet. Can anyone explain me what the harm would be?

[QUOTE=Gunzers6;50249555]Another update for the beta just went out:[/QUOTE] I hope some other stuff got adjusted but was simply unlisted.