Fallout V23: "I got another thread that needs your help." - Games

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;49304250]I agree with this too, rule of cool. If you don't wish that NCR Rangers also used horses for scouting and mobility you are a loser. [/QUOTE] The rule of cool needs to fuck off for real.

[QUOTE=Sammyroc;49305199]No, dumb whacky shit is finding Indiana Jones' skeleton in a fridge in the Mojave Wasteland and looting his hat, this is supposed to be a genuinely touching quest where you rescue a fucking magic ghoul child from a fridge in which he should have died and shriveled into dust but did not because Beth retconned the shit out of ghouls' physiology[/QUOTE] Ghouls have been magic since the first game, what are you talking about [editline]13th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;49305221]The rule of cool needs to fuck off for real.[/QUOTE] Literally all of Fallout is based on rule of cool

Things can be cool and have logic to them. What I'm talking is cool for the sake of cool.

There is no logic behind pretty much any visual aspect of the T51 armor and it's still hailed as one of the best designs in the series because it's cool There is also no logic behind wearing a thick as fuck leather coat above full body armor and a full helmet in a scorching hot desert where you'd be very likely to die of a heat stroke, and people still love the NCR ranger armor because it's cool

So ghouls are still nonsensical and have never made any sense yet people are still anal about the nonexistent canon rules of what a ghoul can and can't do. Literally the only thing that's ever been consistent about ghouls is that rads don't hurt them anymore. Even the line between regular and feral ghoul has fluctuated since the first game (in which there was no difference, ghouls were ghouls and they were just crazy by default).

Bethesda is like the Zack Snyder of video game developers. Rule of cool over everything else.

[QUOTE=Agent 47;49305009]can we talk about how fucking stupid it was that a kid was stuck in a fridge for 200 years because i'm about to pop a testicle right now[/QUOTE] On God I looked that up, that's a piece of horrible writing there, they could have just had the kid get trapped in the fridge by accident for a few days, 200 fucking years and he's dead because ghouls still need food too plus ghoul children don't make sense at all

[QUOTE=Sableye;49305289]On God I looked that up, that's a piece of horrible writing there, they could have just had the kid get trapped in the fridge by accident for a few days, 200 fucking years and he's dead because ghouls still need food too plus ghoul children don't make sense at all[/QUOTE] No you see it's fine because it's cool.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49305257]There is no logic behind pretty much any visual aspect of the T51 armor and it's still hailed as one of the best designs in the series because it's cool There is also no logic behind wearing a thick as fuck leather coat above full body armor and a full helmet in a scorching hot desert where you'd be very likely to die of a heat stroke, and people still love the NCR ranger armor because it's cool[/QUOTE] Are you really playing this dumb game "haha leather armor in the desert so unrealistic! therefore it's totally cool if we add a quest to fly around throwing energy balls dragon ball Z style because fallout was never serious anyway - it's the [I]same thing[/I]!"

[QUOTE=Sableye;49305289]On God I looked that up, that's a piece of horrible writing there, they could have just had the kid get trapped in the fridge by accident for a few days, 200 fucking years and he's dead because ghouls still need food too plus ghoul children don't make sense at all[/QUOTE] Also don't ghouls still need to breath because they're just magic radiation people? That kid should have suffocated after being in a fridge for 200 years. Also why is the kid completely fine mentally after 200 years in a fridge? You've been locked in a dark fridge for 200 years, you're some radiated mutant now, you have no idea if your parents are alive [sp]even if they totally are[/sp] and yet you're completely fine as if you fell into the fridge for a few hours.

Ganerumo is Pete Hines in disguise. I'm calling it now

In a world where giant robots toss nukes like footballs and clunky robots shoot lasers at everything with 1930s music playing all the time, where people get high on brahmin shit, where iguanas have evolved into giant (partly sapient) death dealing monsters, and where you can eat two hundred years old steak and not die of food poisoning, people are bothered with a mutated child living in a fridge for two hundred years.

is there anything in the game that ganerumo won't defend "physics bugs are there because they represent the havoc of the wastes, it's really quite genius" [sp]also how do you pronounce your name, that's been bugging me[/sp]

how am i supposed to do benevolent leader it's confusing as hell

Called it

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49305328]In a world where giant robots toss nukes like footballs and clunky robots shoot lasers at everything with 1930s music playing all the time, where people get high on brahmin shit, where iguanas have evolved into giant (partly sapient) death dealing monsters, and where you can eat two hundred years old steak and not die of food poisoning, people are bothered with a mutated child living in a fridge for two hundred years.[/QUOTE] Most of those were introduced by Bethesda though.

Better idea, you see the fridge surrounded by radioactive barrels, its a right of initiation by the children of atom, if you break him out immediately you get a fine child not ghoulified, if you don't and you leave him there a week you come back and watch the children of atom release him and welcome him into atoms grace

oh wow now ganerumo is arguing ghouls should be magic im going with unidentifiedflyingtar i honestly think we've been talking to pete hines this whole time

[QUOTE]In a world where giant robots toss nukes like footballs[/QUOTE] introduced by bethesda [QUOTE]and clunky robots shoot lasers at everything[/QUOTE] that's not really that out of the ordinary for storytelling [QUOTE]with 1930s music playing all the time,[/QUOTE] there were two songs in fallout one and two, bethesda mostly did that. also is that really wacky at all? [QUOTE]where people get high on brahmin shit, [/QUOTE] people use jenkem in real life [QUOTE]where iguanas have evolved into giant (partly sapient) death dealing monsters[/QUOTE] true, though i don't know where you're getting sapient from unless you're thinking of xarn and the other very very extinct talking deathclaws [QUOTE] and where you can eat two hundred years old steak and not die of food poisoning,[/QUOTE] introduced by bethesda [QUOTE] people are bothered with a mutated child living in a fridge for two hundred years.[/QUOTE] it's dumb, sister [editline]the word poop makes me laugh ha ha[/editline] i always told myself i would never do a list post but here i am

Handcock is a magic genie confirmed.

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[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;49304977]It's actually strongly implied (if not directly stated) in FO3 that all existing humans who aren't descended from Vault Dwellers are actually mutated/significantly genetically changed in comparison to Pre-War humans to withstand the extreme conditions of the wasteland. It just so happens that mutated humans just don't have two heads or giant egg sacks or something, while the cows and flies and other things haven't managed to keep up any sustainable, non-mutated bloodlines.[/QUOTE] I have not touched fallout 3 since new vegas came out so my memory may be off base here, but if you do the Eden ending then the poisoned water is supposed to kill anyone who has mutated, and it can kill your character too, even though you are from a vault. Nevermind I forgot that [sp]you came from Rivet City in that game.[/sp] [QUOTE=Blu_ninja;49305418]that's because spoilers to a game that came out in 2007 [sp]both of your parents weren't from vaults[/sp][/QUOTE] Yeah I had forgotten about that, whoops.

[QUOTE=Glent;49305407]I have not touched fallout 3 since new vegas came out so my memory may be off base here, but if you do the Eden ending then the poisoned water is supposed to kill anyone who has mutated, and it can kill your character too, even though you are from a vault.[/QUOTE] that's because spoilers to a game that came out in 2007 [sp]both of your parents weren't from vaults[/sp]

Because you grew up in a vault the water still hurts you less than the average joe, considering you can drink it and still stand while everyone else will get thoroughly destroyed.

To be fair about the whole ghoul thing Dean Domino suggests that ghouls might not need to eat, and that's an obsidian thing. It still goes against the laws of physics, even those established in the fallout series, that someone could survive that long without [I]some[/I] form of nourishment unless ghouls suddenly go into some kind of weird radiation hibernation stasis that's never mentioned before or since.

[QUOTE=Ardosos;49305453]To be fair about the whole ghoul thing Dean Domino suggests that ghouls might not need to eat, and that's an obsidian thing. It still goes against the laws of physics, even those established in the fallout series, that someone could survive that long without [I]some[/I] form of nourishment unless ghouls suddenly go into some kind of weird radiation hibernation stasis that's never mentioned before or since.[/QUOTE] I don't think Dean Domino was particularly serious there Specially when several other ghouls do eat - one of them being very specific in how he managed to survive locked up in an area for a long time (Harland)

The problem with the Kid in the Fridge quest is the 200 years thing, but then, at first thought it could be fixed as a few hours instead of a few hundred years. But then you'd imagine he'd probably know about his parents. Could've been a neat quest where you go find clues about his parents, so then it makes sense he knows jack shit about them and has been in a fridge but not for such a long time that is absurdly unreasonable. Nothing in Fallout particularly breaks the laws of physics too hard as much as this motherfucker literally defying entropy. Also that motherfucker led a level 15 me to Quincy and fuck that.

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;49304142]I [I]hope[/I] Fallout 4 is the only Fallout game with a voiced protag. I wouldn't find it hard to go back at all. I REALLY want them to go back. I know they won't, because people like ~*~ cinematic dialogue ~*~ instead of well written dialogue but I'll still hope.[/QUOTE] I actually like the "cinematic dialogue" alot, but I think it gets rid of alot of potential, mainly for mods.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49305448]Because you grew up in a vault the water still hurts you less than the average joe, considering you can drink it and still stand while everyone else will get thoroughly destroyed.[/QUOTE] But your parents aren't from a vault, and they have undoubtedly been exposed to [I]some[/I] form of radiation here, and it's not like your genetic structure comes from anyone else.

[QUOTE=Saza;49305473]But your parents aren't from a vault, and they have undoubtedly been exposed to [I]some[/I] form of radiation here, and it's not like your genetic structure comes from anyone else.[/QUOTE] You've spent very little time outside so even though you're as mutated as the rest of the common folk in the wasteland your body hasn't soaked up any amount of radiation and living in the vault has kept it relatively "unstained" compared to other people. The water still hurts you so you're still a mutant, but you're not as mutated as most of the people out there. [editline]13th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;49305466]I actually like the "cinematic dialogue" alot, but I think it gets rid of alot of potential, mainly for mods.[/QUOTE] Mods up until this point have mostly had silent NPCs and such so it won't be that surprising to also have the player go silent in the same way. Very few mods actually have good voicing, and a bunch have either horrible voice acting or taped together voiceclips from the game.