Undertale megathread v5 - An award-winning RPG where nobody has to get SPOILERS. YES, that STILL inc - Games

[QUOTE=RetaDepa;50889410]Speak of the devil: [img]http://i.imgur.com/3Hr4Cmc.png[/IMG] I promise it's still being worked on. It's just a part time hobby for us.[/QUOTE] "Are you not entertained?!"

[QUOTE=RetaDepa;50889410] [img]http://i.imgur.com/3Hr4Cmc.png[/IMG] [/QUOTE] What r u? Casul? [sp]Well, Asgore IS a giant dad after all[/sp]

Nice work on this, I LIKE. Also, would it be possible to have an alt casual skin? I was thinking along the lines of a black shirt and khaki trousers, because of weird reasons. Oh, and here's a new DoctorTale. Almost at Hotland, just got to [URL="http://archiveofourown.org/works/6515734/chapters/17745625"]Reload and Return[/URL].

I made a little cover of the undertale main theme [video=youtube;oocWp_yZA18]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oocWp_yZA18&ab_channel=MatheusStratocaster[/video]

[QUOTE=lintz;50831506]please link me to the blog i want to bleach my eyes with only the finest of memes[/QUOTE] Its been 2 weeks, can someome post the link to the guys Tumblr?

It always bugged me, why did Sans warn about "blue stop signs" when stopping for blue attacks is Doggo's special attack, not Papyrus'. Was it a deliberate misdirection or did Sans not know what Papyrus' special attack is? Also [sp]if Flowey is a soulless creature with Determination by design, how can the flower possess Asriel's consciousness? As I understand, Asriel became a flower after his soul was absorbed by a flower as he died. So basically how can Asriel's consciousness exist in a soulless creature?[/sp]

[QUOTE=Ctrl;50913606]Its been 2 weeks, can someome post the link to the guys Tumblr?[/QUOTE] [URL="http://mspaintguyfromdoorchins.tumblr.com/"]Here it is[/URL]. You might find some weird shit though.

[QUOTE=Talishmar;50915358]It always bugged me, why did Sans warn about "blue stop signs" when stopping for blue attacks is Doggo's special attack, not Papyrus'. Was it a deliberate misdirection or did Sans not know what Papyrus' special attack is? Also [sp]if Flowey is a soulless creature with Determination by design, how can the flower possess Asriel's consciousness? As I understand, Asriel became a flower after his soul was absorbed by a flower as he died. So basically how can Asriel's consciousness exist in a soulless creature?[/sp][/QUOTE] Doggo's fight is more like a tutorial for how blue attacks work. Sans explains it, Doggo demonstrates it, Papyrus' fabled blue attack is literally just blue [i]everywhere[/i], so Sans' warning seems pretty appropriate (it also throws an unexpected surprise by making you blue; leave it to Sans to mess with your expectations.) [sp]His soul wasn't absorbed by the flower; Asriel's soul went missing or was destroyed. Flowey is Asriel's corpse dust that scattered on a flower given determination, and is therefore everything that made up Asriel except for the soul. It's not entirely certain what it means to not have a soul in Undertale though, but Flowey retains memories of being Asriel, so his identity and being must have remained within his dust somehow[/sp]

[QUOTE=Lunik;50915507][sp]His soul wasn't absorbed by the flower; Asriel's soul went missing or was destroyed. Flowey is Asriel's corpse dust that scattered on a flower given determination, and is therefore everything that made up Asriel except for the soul. It's not entirely certain what it means to not have a soul in Undertale though, but Flowey retains memories of being Asriel, so his identity and being must have remained within his dust somehow[/sp][/QUOTE] True. The way I see it, it's kind of like the plight of SOMA's protagonist, although [sp]the Simon we play after the brain scan (Simon-2) was created by feeding said brain scan into a robot brain merged with the corpse of a Pathos-II staff member thanks to structure gel, whereas Flowey ("Asriel-2") was originally just a flower that absorbed the dust of the original Asriel, containing all the memories and most of the tendencies of the original, coaxed to life by concentrated determination.[/sp]

After months playing this game only now I realized the similarities between this game and Alice in Wonderland. Hell, If you think about it Sans is literally the Cheshire Cat.

[QUOTE=Talishmar;50915358]It always bugged me, why did Sans warn about "blue stop signs" when stopping for blue attacks is Doggo's special attack, not Papyrus'. Was it a deliberate misdirection or did Sans not know what Papyrus' special attack is? Also [sp]if Flowey is a soulless creature with Determination by design, how can the flower possess Asriel's consciousness? As I understand, Asriel became a flower after his soul was absorbed by a flower as he died. So basically how can Asriel's consciousness exist in a soulless creature?[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp] In undertale soul and consciousness are not the same thing when a monster dies their soul shatters and is lost only human souls can exist outside a living body because of determination. Flowey is incapable of feeling ANY emotion without a soul its likely he was able to "fake" emotions for awhile possibly centuries using his memories of being alive which is why he at first tries to help people before becoming bored modern flowey. It is also likely the closest thing to emotion he can actually feel is self gratification hence the kill or be killed mentality. [/sp]

[QUOTE=Talishmar;50915358]It always bugged me, why did Sans warn about "blue stop signs" when stopping for blue attacks is Doggo's special attack, not Papyrus'. Was it a deliberate misdirection or did Sans not know what Papyrus' special attack is? Also [sp]if Flowey is a soulless creature with Determination by design, how can the flower possess Asriel's consciousness? As I understand, Asriel became a flower after his soul was absorbed by a flower as he died. So basically how can Asriel's consciousness exist in a soulless creature?[/sp][/QUOTE] A book in the libarby goes into this. [sp] When a monster dies, their ashes are spread upon their favorite thing, it is said to imbue their essence into it after death. Essentially, Asriel brought seeds of golden flowers that stuck to him after running from the human village, when he died those seeds directly mixed with his ashes and then rested in the then barren garden, causing a rapid growth of golden flowers. Alphys then injected determination into not any flower, but the FIRST flower, the very same one.[/sp] [sp]This is actually an amazing reveal but I never see people talking about it, every single golden flower you see in the game is essentially a memorial to Asriel, as he brought the first one to the underground in his death, and all the others sprung from those first seeds. Its especially tragic to see Asgore practically filling his life with the flowers that sprung from the death of his children.[/sp]

[QUOTE=ILLUMM;50915390][URL="http://mspaintguyfromdoorchins.tumblr.com/"]Here it is[/URL]. You might find some weird shit though.[/QUOTE] Seems like he did the HD remake long ago, since I've scrolling down for an hor and cant find it. Does anyone have a link to an imgur gallery with all parts compiled, like the original?

All right, so... I've just recently beaten this game for the first time, then got the true pacifist ending. What should I do next? I'm curious about doing a no mercy/genocide run but I thought I remembered hearing that once you do this, your save file gets permanently changed by it. Like you can never complete another true pacifist run or something. How true is that? And if it's not true, what exactly ARE those permanent changes after the genocide run?

It's not true that you can't ever complete a true pacifist run again, but the ending to it will be (extremely slightly) different after doing genocide

I guess while I'm at it, what's the extent to which different endings will influence your future runs? I managed to stay remarkably spoiler-free while playing through the game, so I just remember hearing a lot of vague hype about how the game will remember SO MUCH of what you do. Is it basically just different dialogue at various times, or can one playthrough substantially impact the gameplay of future playthroughs?

If you restart after a pacifist\genocide it will be like the first time you have played the game. Only neutral endings will change a few lines. E.g. if you end the game with undyne befriended in a neutral route she'll mention something about being mind controlled by you because she feels like being friends before.

So it just boils down to dialogue changes, basically? Nothing terribly game-changing?

[QUOTE=Loofiloo;50922673]So it just boils down to dialogue changes, basically? Nothing terribly game-changing?[/QUOTE] No, resets are resets, the game will remember what you do but won't change itself because of it. It'll just politely let you know.

[QUOTE=Loofiloo;50922673]So it just boils down to dialogue changes, basically? Nothing terribly game-changing?[/QUOTE] It's nearly identical but because of one small detail it changes the meaning of the ending completely.

[QUOTE=Fapplejack;50922813]It's nearly identical but because of one small detail it changes the meaning of the ending completely.[/QUOTE] And by change the meaning, we mean [sp]stomp on the effort you put into getting a Pacifist ending. Like all those people you helped set free? Fuck you they're all dead now. You are NOT above consequences.[/sp]

[QUOTE=ironman17;50923502]And by change the meaning, we mean [sp]stomp on the effort you put into getting a Pacifist ending. Like all those people you helped set free? Fuck you they're all dead now. You are NOT above consequences.[/sp][/QUOTE] Why is everyone here so comfortable for ruining this surprise for new players? The things that genocide does is part of undertale. Freaking out and screaming "wait dont do it you'll do a bad forever and this is EXACTLY what will happen" is a pretty huge spoiler. Let people figure it out for themselves.

Relax, it's spoiler-tagged. If they click it, it's on them.

I never realized the thread for Undertale was still active Which is very fortunate, because I picked up the game two days ago and basically dedicated large chunks of my week end to it While I don't think it's the "ultimate game" or the "best game ever", this shit was brilliantly written and exceptionally clever at times I also surprised myself by finishing it because I'm totally [I]not[/I] experienced with bullet hell games, but I managed nevertheless I got, I suppose, the neutral ending (if Sans is to be believed, it's the one where [sp]Toriel becomes queen after I destroy Photoshop Flowey and allows humans to come to the Underworld as friends and the monsters accept it [/sp]), because I didn't kill anyone but didn't befriend the scientist (something, I'm told, it's possible starting from your second run) I totally missed some extra treasures and very few NPCs, I know it, but it was my first run and all I'll see to replay the game and achieve the True Pacifist ending or something before the new Deus Ex game comes out I'd also like to experience the infamous Genocide run but honestly, after all I've seen about it, I might not have the guts to do it, even by sheer curiosity

[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;50925580]I never realized the thread for Undertale was still active Which is very fortunate, because I picked up the game two days ago and basically dedicated large chunks of my week end to it While I don't think it's the "ultimate game" or the "best game ever", this shit was brilliantly written and exceptionally clever at times I also surprised myself by finishing it because I'm totally [I]not[/I] experienced with bullet hell games, but I managed nevertheless I got, I suppose, the neutral ending (if Sans is to be believed, it's the one where [sp]Toriel becomes queen after I destroy Photoshop Flowey and allows humans to come to the Underworld as friends and the monsters accept it [/sp]), because I didn't kill anyone but didn't befriend the scientist (something, I'm told, it's possible starting from your second run) I totally missed some extra treasures and very few NPCs, I know it, but it was my first run and all I'll see to replay the game and achieve the True Pacifist ending or something before the new Deus Ex game comes out I'd also like to experience the infamous Genocide run but honestly, after all I've seen about it, I might not have the guts to do it, even by sheer curiosity[/QUOTE] You don't have to restart the game to do true pacifist, you just have to load your game and start there.

[QUOTE=Whatsinaname;50925849]You don't have to restart the game to do true pacifist, you just have to load your game and start there.[/QUOTE] That sounds like some good time saving Thank you

This is a thing. [t]http://66.media.tumblr.com/dba185fe9222ea5f6867fa49aaef22e4/tumblr_obuz08JNDC1ribfeco1_1280.png[/t] :v:

No it aint.

[QUOTE=ntzu;50921229][sp]This is actually an amazing reveal but I never see people talking about it, every single golden flower you see in the game is essentially a memorial to Asriel, as he brought the first one to the underground in his death, and all the others sprung from those first seeds. Its especially tragic to see Asgore practically filling his life with the flowers that sprung from the death of his children.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]It also hints at where the first human got buried too, since asriel dropped them on the bed of golden flowers before picking them back up and leaving. Though I've always wondered why there's another small patch of them halfway through waterfall.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Cliff2;50928737][sp]Though I've always wondered why there's another small patch of them halfway through waterfall.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Alphys was experimenting with the seeds, and they got stuck on her a lot. In addition, after the amalgamate crisis, she started hanging out in the garbage dump.[/sp] Put two and two together, and there's your answer.