Counter Strike: Global Offensive v7: Creeps from the weeb team represent - Games

[QUOTE=Mr Flexi;49286005]I'm sorry but I have to ask, have you [i]actually[/i] played CS:GO?[/QUOTE] I'm LE

[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49286007]I'm LE[/QUOTE] Stand the fuck back son. We got an LE over here.

[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49286007]I'm LE[/QUOTE] yet more proof new le is old gn

[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49286007]I'm LE[/QUOTE] Watch Thorin's video. He gives a thorough rebuttal and explanation.

[QUOTE=Ogris;49286012]Stand the fuck back son. We got an LE over here.[/QUOTE] the dude asked if I'd played, I answered

Entirely reaction time and pure aim is promoted by increasing inaccuracies of the two core weapon i suppose? Im not even talking about R8

[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49286040]the dude asked if I'd played, I answered[/QUOTE] The problem is you seem to lack a very basic understanding of the game and why the R8 revolver, in it's current state, is not acceptable. The gun is overtuned in every respect and was supposed to be EVEN MORE powerful. You want your "good OP"? Have a look at the tec 9 or current pistols, they're too strong for what they are but you can still somewhat play around them. You can't play around the "PRESS RMB TO SUMMON RNGESUS" gun. [editline]10th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=LaTrefle;49286043]Entirely reaction time and pure aim is promoted by increasing inaccuracies of the two core weapon i suppose? Im not even talking about R8[/QUOTE] Inaccuracy increase wasn't that huge, but it heavily penalizes people who had inaccurate sprays before. You really have to center your spray now to maximize chances of hitting. Is that a good or a bad thing? I think it's neither, but it's a completely unnecessary change.

[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49286040]the dude asked if I'd played, I answered[/QUOTE] next question: did you eat paint chips for breakfast this morning if yes: did you replace the milk with glue also saying "im le" to someone asking if you played the game like its meant to impress them is just lmao

ESEA says if changes don't happen or not sufficiently enough they will rollback on their servers. Thank you based ESEA.

[QUOTE=Aman;49286088]ESEA says if changes don't happen or not sufficiently enough they will rollback on their servers. Thank you based ESEA.[/QUOTE] rip esea ever being able to sponsor a major

[QUOTE=Chubbs;49286065] also saying "im le" to someone asking if you played the game like its meant to impress them is just lmao[/QUOTE] you're not going to hit LE as a new player was the point spout 'LE is the new GN' all you want, you still need SOME basic understanding of the game to reach LE

If this thread keeps bitching about r8 at this r8, we'll have csgo thread v8 before nerf on r8. Not much to do right now but w8, and hope it's not too l8.

[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49286101]you're not going to hit LE as a new player was the point spout 'LE is the new GN' all you want, you still need SOME basic understanding of the game to reach LE[/QUOTE] you could get le as a new player with raw aim if you played an fps at a [del]high[/del] vaugely decent level before understanding of the game isnt really required further than stopping before shooting the other person in the head [editline]10th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=rider695;49286110]If this thread keeps bitching about r8 at this r8, we'll have csgo thread v8 before nerf on r8. Not much to do right now but w8, and hope it's not too l8.[/QUOTE] im already preparing title puns m8 gonna need an r8 banner too

[QUOTE=rider695;49286110]If this thread keeps bitching about r8 at this r8, we'll have csgo thread v8 before nerf on r8. Not much to do right now but w8, and hope it's not too l8.[/QUOTE] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuPlAFB2SvE[/media] Time to retali8 m8

[QUOTE=booster;49281850]I wish you were right, but this revolver is pretty damn accurate. Where an AK need 1-5 shots to kill you, the Lolvolver only needs 1.[/QUOTE] Yes but it just takes such a long time to shoot, I mean, by the time you actually are able to shoot the person with the AK has landed 5 shots already.

[QUOTE=Flumbooze;49286174]Yes but it just takes such a long time to shoot, I mean, by the time you actually are able to shoot the person with the AK has landed 5 shots already.[/QUOTE] Yeah except you peak right as you cock at long A, and shoulder peak prefire the guy from long range for 88-96 in 1 with kevlar. No gun does that, no gun should do that. At least not a pistol that costs $850...

[QUOTE=Tsanummy;49285667]What I'm trying to say is, maybe if you rush apps in inferno with the R8 agaisnt boosted globals you might succeed, but when you're peeking people that actually know how to move, aim and prefire, you're going to get destroyed because the Left click is too slow and the right one unreliable..[/QUOTE] That's exactly the kind of cons I've been saying with this gun. I still think it should be inaccurate while moving however making it useful as a long range weapon like an AWP.

[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49286101]you're not going to hit LE as a new player was the point spout 'LE is the new GN' all you want, you still need SOME basic understanding of the game to reach LE[/QUOTE] Since you seem to be very intent on proving a point you don't quite understand, allow me to elaborate. Let's look at the current pistols. They scale quadratically with price. The p250 isn't somewhat better than the p2k, it absolutely smashes it, similary the Tec/5-7 aren't a bit better than the P250, they're improvements across the board in ammo count, damage, accuracy, armor penetration etc. You have a specialty pistol in the deagle. More specifically, let's look at the almighty Juan. The Deagle was always "the" pistol in CS, the argument of legacy and history is irrelevant, but it helps put the pistol into context. It's a very different pistol from the others in that it does not promote a run and gun, but more of a rifle style of stand still and shoot, it's more similar to the scout than M4 even in some respects. It's supposed to incentivize standing still to shoot accurate bullets with high power, but penalize you if you move and is in general inaccurate while spraying and not a close quarters gun. In essence, it's a hand cannon and requires a very specific playstyle. Now in comes the R8 revolver. This pistol combines all the stopping power of the AWP (actually, it's glitched, it should be 1 shot to chest to kill, but they fucked up the penetrations values AYY LMAO) and the short range accuray of the deagle, for a higher price and a windup time on the one shot function. Seems reasonable, and it is, the problem isn't the concept itself, it's supposed to be a high risk high reward version of the deagle. Now here's the issue, it's no risk high reward. The stats, across the board are better than the deagle, let's compare. Damage? Higher on the R8. Recoil? R8 resets faster on recoil than deagle does, right click is roughly the same accuracy, except the R8 has no movement penalty on shooting and at short range the chances of you hitting the guy once/twice are much higher than the 3 shots required by the deagle. Accuracy? Almost accurate while moving and firing with LMB, inaccurate with RMB but the Tec-9 is inaccurate while run and gunning too hurrr durr not OP. Price? Deagle is 700, but you're not buying it on pistol round anyway, 2nd round it's a 150$ difference meaning you need 1,5k to buy. Unless you're emptying your bank account (aka buying nades), you'll have 100/150 left, meaning you can buy it second round. It's better in every respect Let's try comparing it to the Tec-9 instead. More damage, slower rate of fire BUT. And this is a massive BUT. Tec-9 kills to chest in 4/5 shots. The revolver is likely to hit that 2 shots out of 3 if your aim isn't shit, even with right click which is inaccurate short range. Long range it's more accurate. Again, the almighty Tec-9, a gun considered to be bordlerine if not OP for the price is in the shadow of the goddamn fucking revolver. Okay, so let's compare it to an AK FUCKING 47. More damage, more accuracy while tapping, you can't spray it but you don't need to spray a fucking ONE HIT KILL TO STOMACH WEAPON. Again, the right click function is far too accurate, oh, did I mention you can jumpshot people with the revolver? The main argument seems to stem from the "yeah but windup" argument. This also comes from complete lack of understanding of the game mechanics, you ever heard of shoulder peeking? Yeah, now imagine a gun that basically is a shoulderpeeking AWP, it's retarded. The windup time is irrelevant since, like grenades (you don't pull them out in the open - you shouldn't, people do it anyway) you cock it while behind a corner and peek out with a quarter of a second left to fire, aim towards opponent and rek his face. Did you miss? No worries, just hop back behind the corner and try again! Shoulder peeking has never been this effective since it removes the skill in requiring people to manipulate their speed to 70 units or below for accuracy. And yeah, it's far more accurate than a fucking m4a1-s, retarded. The gun promotes skill, but it does it the wrong way. Instead of giving good players more chance to outplay the enemy, it gives worse players less chance to do something. A 1v1 with a revolver is gonna end up in the better player smashing the worse player, with him having no way to do anything about it, you can spam it through smoke or flash better than an awp. Head armor+R8 is only 1850, it's a side arm in the literal sense of it's equal to your primary. ECO rounds at a pro level with this gun ended up far worse than the tec-9, I dread to see what Envy is gonna pull of with this thing. You can 30/40 bomb with this thing ALONE, that simply shouldn't happen, and I'm not talking about masters of the gun, I'm talking about regular, semi-decent global players. You can anchor down both short range and long range with it (example, cbble drop and Long B). The problem isn't that it's not counterable, but short range, you're risking an AK-47 for a 50/50 chance of not dying to a 850 fucking dollars gun. That is dumb as shit. Long range it's even worse since you're just gonna get shoulder picked and shot in the fuckin face. It also makes shotguns null and void. Scout is pretty weak as well compared to this. Realistically the gun should cost 1500$ or so, it's stronger than every SMG bar the P90 vs armor. It's OP for everyone, but that is NOT a good thing. It's OP to the level that it nullifies selection of weapon on 2nd round forcebuys. Again, it makes the Tec-9 look very balanced. Eco rounds are pretty much not there anymore since with the R8, it's a 60/40 round at best even without kevlar.

[QUOTE=Aman;49286189]Yeah except you peak right as you cock at long A, and shoulder peak prefire the guy from long range for 88-96 in 1 with kevlar. No gun does that, no gun should do that. At least not a pistol that costs $850...[/QUOTE] the awp does that

You arent meant to use the revolver like a normal gun. You're meant to "fire" just long enough before you peek to give you enough time to aim at whoever you are peeking before it fires. If you do it right you aren't gonna lose short of getting prefired really really hard.

Sometimes I wonder if people often forget that Grenades exists. I guess I was right all along.

[QUOTE=Ogris;49286204]Since you seem to be very intent on proving a point you don't quite understand, allow me to elaborate. Let's look at the current pistols. They scale quadratically with price. The p250 isn't somewhat better than the p2k, it absolutely smashes it, similary the Tec/5-7 aren't a bit better than the P250, they're improvements across the board in ammo count, damage, accuracy, armor penetration etc. You have a specialty pistol in the deagle. More specifically, let's look at the almighty Juan. The Deagle was always "the" pistol in CS, the argument of legacy and history is irrelevant, but it helps put the pistol into context. It's a very different pistol from the others in that it does not promote a run and gun, but more of a rifle style of stand still and shoot, it's more similar to the scout than M4 even in some respects. It's supposed to incentivize standing still to shoot accurate bullets with high power, but penalize you if you move and is in general inaccurate while spraying and not a close quarters gun. In essence, it's a hand cannon and requires a very specific playstyle. Now in comes the R8 revolver. This pistol combines all the stopping power of the AWP (actually, it's glitched, it should be 1 shot to chest to kill, but they fucked up the penetrations values AYY LMAO) and the short range accuray of the deagle, for a higher price and a windup time on the one shot function. Seems reasonable, and it is, the problem isn't the concept itself, it's supposed to be a high risk high reward version of the deagle. Now here's the issue, it's no risk high reward. The stats, across the board are better than the deagle, let's compare. Damage? Higher on the R8. Recoil? R8 resets faster on recoil than deagle does, right click is roughly the same accuracy, except the R8 has no movement penalty on shooting and at short range the chances of you hitting the guy once/twice are much higher than the 3 shots required by the deagle. Accuracy? Almost accurate while moving and firing with LMB, inaccurate with RMB but the Tec-9 is inaccurate while run and gunning too hurrr durr not OP. Price? Deagle is 700, but you're not buying it on pistol round anyway, 2nd round it's a 150$ difference meaning you need 1,5k to buy. Unless you're emptying your bank account (aka buying nades), you'll have 100/150 left, meaning you can buy it second round. It's better in every respect Let's try comparing it to the Tec-9 instead. More damage, slower rate of fire BUT. And this is a massive BUT. Tec-9 kills to chest in 4/5 shots. The revolver is likely to hit that 2 shots out of 3 if your aim isn't shit, even with right click which is inaccurate short range. Long range it's more accurate. Again, the almighty Tec-9, a gun considered to be bordlerine if not OP for the price is in the shadow of the goddamn fucking revolver. Okay, so let's compare it to an AK FUCKING 47. More damage, more accuracy while tapping, you can't spray it but you don't need to spray a fucking ONE HIT KILL TO STOMACH WEAPON. Again, the right click function is far too accurate, oh, did I mention you can jumpshot people with the revolver? The main argument seems to stem from the "yeah but windup" argument. This also comes from complete lack of understanding of the game mechanics, you ever heard of shoulder peeking? Yeah, now imagine a gun that basically is a shoulderpeeking AWP, it's retarded. The windup time is irrelevant since, like grenades (you don't pull them out in the open - you shouldn't, people do it anyway) you cock it while behind a corner and peek out with a quarter of a second left to fire, aim towards opponent and rek his face. Did you miss? No worries, just hop back behind the corner and try again! Shoulder peeking has never been this effective since it removes the skill in requiring people to manipulate their speed to 70 units or below for accuracy. And yeah, it's far more accurate than a fucking m4a1-s, retarded. The gun promotes skill, but it does it the wrong way. Instead of giving good players more chance to outplay the enemy, it gives worse players less chance to do something. A 1v1 with a revolver is gonna end up in the better player smashing the worse player, with him having no way to do anything about it, you can spam it through smoke or flash better than an awp. Head armor+R8 is only 1850, it's a side arm in the literal sense of it's equal to your primary. ECO rounds at a pro level with this gun ended up far worse than the tec-9, I dread to see what Envy is gonna pull of with this thing. You can 30/40 bomb with this thing ALONE, that simply shouldn't happen, and I'm not talking about masters of the gun, I'm talking about regular, semi-decent global players. You can anchor down both short range and long range with it (example, cbble drop and Long B). The problem isn't that it's not counterable, but short range, you're risking an AK-47 for a 50/50 chance of not dying to a 850 fucking dollars gun. That is dumb as shit. Long range it's even worse since you're just gonna get shoulder picked and shot in the fuckin face. It also makes shotguns null and void. Scout is pretty weak as well compared to this. Realistically the gun should cost 1500$ or so, it's stronger than every SMG bar the P90 vs armor. It's OP for everyone, but that is NOT a good thing. It's OP to the level that it nullifies selection of weapon on 2nd round forcebuys. Again, it makes the Tec-9 look very balanced. Eco rounds are pretty much not there anymore since with the R8, it's a 60/40 round at best even without kevlar.[/QUOTE] yeah but its fun I feel like you missed MY point- yes, obviously the r8 is way broken, but its fun because it changes the way the game plays drastically, and this brief crazy period where nobodys quite used to the new state of the game yet is fun. Go with the flow rather than whining because of COURSE itd going to be nerfed eventually

This also means it is MUCH faster than an awp when peeking someone. The awp has the choice of either peeking really really slowly (scoped) and dying to the rifle holding the corner before it even sees them, or quickscoping, which is slow as well because you have to actually wait for like ~0.2s for your aim to be good enough to constistently hit things. [editline]10th December 2015[/editline] my merge

[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49286227]yeah but its fun[/QUOTE] It's fun, so is 5 man rushing down banana with a negev, fun isn't the problem here, nor does it have any correlation with balance.

[QUOTE=Chubbs;49286231]This also means it is MUCH faster than an awp when peeking someone. The awp has the choice of either peeking really really slowly (scoped) and dying to the rifle holding the corner before it even sees them, or quickscoping, which is slow as well because you have to actually wait for like ~0.2s for your aim to be good enough to constistently hit things. [editline]10th December 2015[/editline] my merge[/QUOTE] They should make it that, when you cock the gun your movement speed is as slow as playing scoped with an awp.

[QUOTE=Flumbooze;49286251]They should make it that, when you cock the gun your movement speed is as slow as playing scoped with an awp.[/QUOTE] Or just make it inaccurate while you're moving.

[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49286207]the awp does that[/QUOTE] And how much does the awp cost and what pros and cons come with it? Derp

[QUOTE=Flumbooze;49286251]They should make it that, when you cock the gun your movement speed is as slow as playing scoped with an awp.[/QUOTE] Jump peek then. Crouch when you land ofc. Added bonus of slightly breaking your hitboxes for added no counterplay(tm)

[QUOTE=Rob3k;49286258]Or just make it inaccurate while you're moving.[/QUOTE] That would work too, that you have to stand still in order for the shot to be precise. Either of these options is fine for me (though the revolver hasn't been bothering me that much, I'm still faster with the awp).

[QUOTE=Aman;49286260]And how much does the awp cost and what pros and cons come with it? Derp[/QUOTE] Just use nades man you can really mess up an R8 user if you use them.