The Half-Life 1 Alpha leak - Games

[QUOTE=uaredead2020;39186084]I've seen some of them decompiled.[/QUOTE] where?!?!

[QUOTE=Jaws45;39186117]where?!?![/QUOTE] He wishes to stay private and anonymous [T]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/596992393075634254/49B4FE37CF8F7555E4AF3055945E920B711AE6AB/[/T]

[QUOTE=uaredead2020;39186128]He wishes to stay private and anonymous[/QUOTE] are they available, if so, where?

[QUOTE=Jaws45;39186135]are they available, if so, where?[/QUOTE] they are not released

[QUOTE=uaredead2020;39186144]they are not released[/QUOTE] dangit, it would've been awesome if they were

It's some sort of old MDL format, just like HL2 leak one, it requires a specific studiomdl decompiler and HLMV, I also don't know where to start, but, like BSPs, MDLs have versions, retail MDLs should not be so different than alpha's MDLs, I think, if someone who got the old HL SDK, could check the studiomdl's source code (if we have it) and change the version which can be decompiled, I'll try that when I get home.

[QUOTE=uaredead2020;39186128]He wishes to stay private and anonymous [T]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/596992393075634254/49B4FE37CF8F7555E4AF3055945E920B711AE6AB/[/T][/QUOTE] What on earth happened to the textures?

[QUOTE=hogsy;39186334]What on earth happened to the textures?[/QUOTE] I think you mean the smoothing groups [editline]s[/editline] how is this a zing i was just correcting him

Why stay annonymous instead of helping, I don't understand that kind of behavior, release the models at least.

[QUOTE=95Navigator;39186393]Why stay annonymous instead of helping, I don't understand that kind of behavior, release the models at least.[/QUOTE] i have to agree, why stay anonymous?

[QUOTE=uaredead2020;39186128]He wishes to stay private and anonymous [T]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/596992393075634254/49B4FE37CF8F7555E4AF3055945E920B711AE6AB/[/T][/QUOTE] That model is from those fake terrible alpha packs off of ModDB isn't it?

[QUOTE=Thecoolgman2;39186666]That model is from those fake terrible alpha packs off of ModDB isn't it?[/QUOTE] uh, no. thats the actual one

What another reasons a person would have to not release these models instead of being fake?, I think we have a troll here...

[QUOTE=95Navigator;39186891]What another reasons a person would have to not release these models instead of being fake?, I think we have a troll here...[/QUOTE] It's Theuaredead, he's sorta infamous for doing this type of activity.

[QUOTE=Thecoolgman2;39186896]It's Theuaredead, he's sorta infamous for doing this type of activity.[/QUOTE] Just because I have a bad past doesn't mean I continue to do such things. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Alt of permabanned user" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=uaredead2020;39186128]He wishes to stay private and anonymous [T]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/596992393075634254/49B4FE37CF8F7555E4AF3055945E920B711AE6AB/[/T][/QUOTE] I just realised but... Clearly converting the model works [I]so [/I]well that you're able to lose both the smoothing groups and animations in the process because you can clearly see it's been rigged here to use the retail Barney's animations as in the alpha Barney is incapable of aiming up and down, and on top of that there's no attachment added for the muzzle-flash in the alpha. As another friend stated to me I believe he most likely just ripped these models using one of the many tools that are avaliable out there which allow you to rip meshes from a 3D scene and then he just rerigged them to use the retail animations. "Converted" my ass.

[QUOTE=hogsy;39187069]I just realised but... Clearly converting the model works [I]so [/I]well that you're able to lose both the smoothing groups and animations in the process because you can clearly see it's been rigged here to use the retail Barney's animations as in the alpha Barney is incapable of aiming up and down, and on top of that there's no attachment added for the muzzle-flash in the alpha. As another friend stated to me I believe he most likely just ripped these models using one of the many tools that are avaliable out there which allow you to rip meshes from a 3D scene and then he just rerigged them to use the retail animations. "Converted" my ass.[/QUOTE] oh, i didnt know.

[QUOTE=Thecoolgman2;39186896]It's Theuaredead, he's sorta infamous for doing this type of activity.[/QUOTE] Some weird cry for attention, isn't it?

how could one even rip it though, id like to know so i could try (im aware it wouldnt be converting, but id like to have some models until someone actually converts them)

[QUOTE=Jaws45;39187214]how could one even rip it though, id like to know so i could try (im aware it wouldnt be converting, but id like to have some models until someone actually converts them)[/QUOTE] For ripping stuff from GL games I always used an OpenGL to DirectX wrapper and launched the game with the ripping tool 3DRipperDX. I didn't test it with Half-Life 0.52 (GL) yet, but it works fine on most Quake based engines I wouldn't really recommend this, though. It can get really dirty at times Edit: I'm sure there are couple more OpenGL ripping programs out there nowadays, so don't rely on the whole wrapping thing

Hacking up the HLMV source code until there's results and sharing the code differences publicly would be a good start, instead of "i did it and you cant have it"

Can't reach my spare parts. It's ut to you guys to carry the torch on this one. :(

Started working on something to view the models myself. Will keep you guys updated on progress if I actually make any...

having alot of trouble finding the right program to get the models like the opengl wrapper or whatever , im not very good at this stuff, is anyone here good at it?

There is no "right program" because one doesn't exist yet.

[QUOTE=leilei;39187505]There is no "right program" because one doesn't exist yet.[/QUOTE] k

The model header looks to be the [url=https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/MDL]same[/url] probably just some minor difference. I'll look into it in the morning when I'm not so drunk, also assuming it's little endian (correct me if I'm wrong). id: IDST id hex: 49 44 53 54 version: 6 version hex: 06 00 00 00 name: valve/models/agrunt.mdl name hex: 76 61 6C 76 65 2F 6D 6F 64 65 6C 73 2F 61 67 72 75 6E 74 2E 6D 64 6C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 dataLength: 467928 (bytes) dataLength Hex: D8 23 07 00 eyeposition: (78,188,0) eyeposition Hex: 4E 00 00 00 | BC 00 00 00 | 00 00 00 00 illumposition: (4868, 15, 4868) illumposition Hex: 04 13 00 00 | 0F 00 00 00 | 04 13 00 00 hull_min: (31, 338616, 341160) hull_min Hex: 1F 00 00 00 | B8 2A 05 00 | A8 34 05 00 hull_max: (31, 1, 341096) hull_max Hex: 1F 00 00 00 | 01 00 00 00 | 68 34 05 00 view_bbmin: (1, 307280, 0) view_bbmin Hex: 01 00 00 00 | 50 B0 04 00 | 00 00 00 00 view_bbmax: (0,0,0) view_bbmax Hex: 00 00 00 00 | 00 00 00 00 | 00 00 00 00

Yup most of the differences are fairly minor, though there seems to be one or two even older models in there that are version 4. Probably not going to deal with those until I have the version 6 models loading... [B]Edit:[/B] Here's a list of a few of the version 4 models... olive.mdl scienceeat.mdl reddoc.mdl player.mdl panthereat.mdl I'm under the assumption that the alpha is unable to open these models. It's also worth mentioning that it doesn't use player.mdl for the player model. [B]Edit:[/B] My bad for adding player.mdl to that list, turns out I had replaced it with one of the version 4 models.

[b]Version 6 Models[/b] agrunt.mdl barney.mdl boid.mdl bullchik.mdl ceilinggibs.mdl cindergibs.mdl cine3-barney.mdl cine3-scientist.mdl cine-barney.mdl cine-panther.mdl cine-scientist.mdl debris.mdl desert.mdl doctor.mdl GIB_B_Bone.mdl GIB_B_Gib.mdl GIB_Legbone.mdl GIB_Lung.mdl GIB_Skull.mdl grenade.mdl hassault.mdl headcrab.mdl hgrunt.mdl hornet.mdl houndeye.mdl islave.mdl m44.mdl panther.mdl PLAYER.MDL polyrobo.mdl prdroid.mdl scientist.mdl shell.mdl shrapnel.mdl spit.mdl tentacle.mdl turret.mdl v_crowbar.mdl v_glock.mdl v_mp5.mdl woodgibs.mdl [b]Version 4 Models[/b] bluedoc.mdl greendoc.mdl hsarge.mdl olive.mdl panthereat.mdl reddoc.mdl scienceeat.mdl Episode 2 is using Version 44 models [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/funny2.png[/img]

[QUOTE=hogsy;39187798]Yup most of the differences are fairly minor, though there seems to be one or two even older models in there that are version 4. Probably not going to deal with those until I have the version 6 models loading... [B]Edit:[/B] Here's a list of a few of the version 4 models... olive.mdl scienceeat.mdl reddoc.mdl player.mdl panthereat.mdl I'm under the assumption that the alpha is unable to open these models. It's also worth mentioning that it doesn't use player.mdl for the player model.[/QUOTE] Anyone but me think its possible the Olive.mdl could be the female scientist? I don't think they'd do an olive anyway.