Rainbow Six - Mira Mira on the wall

[garbage ellie]

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;51300628]I mean, IQ has been in since launch and she runs around in blue jeans and a hoodie. In fact, all the GSG9 operators are kinda casual.
Also, that is not what art style is.[/QUOTE]

yes, I got it wrong again :v:
and with gsg9, it's not out of the style because thats how they've sometimes operated in the past, since they carry a kit in their cars all the time.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/PdHhMbk.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/TjJHtHj.jpg[/t]
but the japanese look the polar opposite of anything I've seen with japanese special forces. not to mention their faces make them look under 18.

[DeafNoEyes]

Hopefully Echo will get the more covered version as a headgear, but not holding my breath. Companies adding new content and it completely ignoring the original art style usual kills the game for me.

[Ax3l]

Remember that it's also just the art, as well as being leaked. Valkyrie looked like garbage in the leaks as well, and now she's more acceptable. Perhaps it'll be the same for these dudes.

[sxbig]

Valk got leaked like 2-3 months ahead of her release though.

[Grim_2o0o]

and all Valk got was a face change right? It's not gonna change the fact that these guys came straight outta the airsoft match.

[Novangel]

Yeah the GSG9 operators are supposed to be sort of quick reactionary operators. The Japanese operators look really bad imo

[Grim_2o0o]

It's that special boy's birthday.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMvL8amZHpc[/media]

[sxbig]

[QUOTE=Grim2o0o;51300967]and all Valk got was a face change right? It's not gonna change the fact that these guys came straight outta the airsoft match.[/QUOTE]Different tat's I think. The ink is more worn out in the current version.

[Xue]

Didn't see anyone post this yet.

[video=youtube;dpHKPHxi-BY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpHKPHxi-BY[/video]

[ashxu]

Pretty stereotypical, they couldn't just do a highly urban japanese location?

[tuliq]

[QUOTE=ashxu;51301107]Pretty stereotypical, they couldn't just do a highly urban japanese location?[/QUOTE] Shibuya shootout would be cool, but hey skyscraper!

[Grim_2o0o]

Hey it's a modern skyscraper with some old fart feudal japan stuff on top.
Both modern and old in ONE NIFTY DLC.

[editline]3rd November 2016[/editline]

I mean it does remind me of the Raven Shield sneaky Japanese building part, but that looked more modern.

[Chill]

So, this is live

[URL]http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/updates/redcrow/index.aspx[/URL]

Except it's missing everything for me.

[editline]3rd November 2016[/editline]

Okay, more stuff happened.

[url]http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/news/detail.aspx?c=tcm:152-273411-16&ct=tcm:148-76770-32[/url]

[𝒸𝓇𝒶𝓈𝒽 ✔️]

[QUOTE=Lance99;51302369]
[url]http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/news/detail.aspx?c=tcm:152-273411-16&ct=tcm:148-76770-32[/url][/QUOTE]

"There is something we also want to address. We know that accurate hit registration is a priority in the community, and we want to assure you that it is a priority on the Dev team."
"Here is what we’re working on regarding fixes in these areas coming in Season 4."
"We will be introducing better ping reporting to help us understand what the variables are when a player experiences a frustrating moment. Regarding network and latency, we fixed an issue relating to network compression that was causing some inaccuracies in hit registration. This should help in certain situations. We also found and resolved a movement issue related to stances that would create a misalignment in the head placement when registering a hit. We are continuing to monitor and address hit registration very closely, and will be something we will never stop trying to improve."

yeah dont expect anything to actually change, just more pr talk to shut most up

[Chill]

Yeah, noticed it too, same goes for lighting - their community manager stated that they have fixed A NUMBER OF SPOTS ON THE MAPS. Not the code for lighting itself, but maps. Oh well.

Also, this new feature of caliber-based holes bothers me: now pistols will make the biggest holes, cause .44 > 9mm (pistols and smgs) > 7.62 (marksman rifles) > 5.56 (marksman rifles) > 5.45 (ak12) > 4.6 (mp7). It makes sense in theory, but there's no implementation of ballistics and the results might be weird. One thing is sure though, it will be buggy as fuck.

[sa2fan]

[QUOTE=Naught;51300781]yes, I got it wrong again :v:
and with gsg9, it's not out of the style because thats how they've sometimes operated in the past, since they carry a kit in their cars all the time.

but the japanese look the polar opposite of anything I've seen with japanese special forces. not to mention their faces make them look under 18.[/QUOTE]

After doing a bit of research, GSG-9 in this game looks more like SEK to me. I could be wrong though.

[Chill]

[QUOTE=sa2fan;51303092]After doing a bit of research, GSG-9 in this game looks more like SEK to me. I could be wrong though.[/QUOTE]

IIRC this is true, because SEK are the quick response police unit, so they might not have time to get changed into the tactical gear, while the GSG always goes in fully dressed.

[Strikerrr]

[QUOTE=Naught;51300781]yes, I got it wrong again :v:
and with gsg9, it's not out of the style because thats how they've sometimes operated in the past, since they carry a kit in their cars all the time.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/PdHhMbk.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/TjJHtHj.jpg[/t]
but the japanese look the polar opposite of anything I've seen with japanese special forces. not to mention their faces make them look under 18.[/QUOTE]

I think these are actually SEK, not GSG9. SEK are state police units who specialize in rapid armed response, which is why they sometimes show up in plain cloths with armor thrown over them. GSG9 is federal police and tend to deal with more complex situations that involve hostages. It's like comparing a local SWAT team in the US to the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team.

ModernGSG9 tends to look more like this:
[t]http://www.special-ops.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/gsg-9-training.jpg[/t][t]http://www.welt.de/img/deutschland/crop109460615/3016939339-ci3x2l-w900/GSG-9-Jubilaeum-2-2-.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/odQC4HN.jpg[/t]

[sa2fan]

I wonder why they went with FBI Swat instead of HRT.

[𝒸𝓇𝒶𝓈𝒽 ✔️]

[QUOTE=Lance99;51302984]Yeah, noticed it too, same goes for lighting - their community manager stated that they have fixed A NUMBER OF SPOTS ON THE MAPS. Not the code for lighting itself, but maps. Oh well.

Also, this new feature of caliber-based holes bothers me: now pistols will make the biggest holes, cause .44 > 9mm (pistols and smgs) > 7.62 (marksman rifles) > 5.56 (marksman rifles) > 5.45 (ak12) > 4.6 (mp7). It makes sense in theory, but there's no implementation of ballistics and the results might be weird. One thing is sure though, it will be buggy as fuck.[/QUOTE]

might be based on bullet muzzle energy in ft lb

[editline]3rd November 2016[/editline]

technically glazs gun should make the bigger hole than bb's deag

[RockSushi]

Just lost a 3 (my team)v5 ranked in the very last round. If only those knobheads didn't just rushed in, we could've won lol.

[Chill]

[QUOTE=cr4sh!;51303308]might be based on bullet muzzle energy in ft lb

[editline]3rd November 2016[/editline]

technically glazs gun should make the bigger hole than bb's deag[/QUOTE]

This is true, but bullet holes IRL depend also on the bullet construction and the construction of the object hit, as well as the material it is made of. It's quite complicated and IMO the current system works fine, I'm not sold on the changes here.

[Viper123_SWE]

[QUOTE=StrykerE;51303148]I think these are actually SEK, not GSG9. SEK are state police units who specialize in rapid armed response, which is why they sometimes show up in plain cloths with armor thrown over them. GSG9 is federal police and tend to deal with more complex situations that involve hostages. It's like comparing a local SWAT team in the US to the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team.

ModernGSG9 tends to look more like this:
[t]http://www.special-ops.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/gsg-9-training.jpg[/t][t]http://www.welt.de/img/deutschland/crop109460615/3016939339-ci3x2l-w900/GSG-9-Jubilaeum-2-2-.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/odQC4HN.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]

GSG9 do both. Sometimes they're geared up to the max, sometimes not. The only thing which bothers me is that none of the GSG9 dudes have their iconic NVGs:
[t]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9pCbuS3mQl4/S786gtlBp2I/AAAAAAAAAW4/D6L13wGPioQ/s1600/gsg9GALERIA+TIRO.jpg[/t]

[editline]3rd November 2016[/editline]

[QUOTE=sa2fan;51303162]I wonder why they went with FBI Swat instead of HRT.[/QUOTE]

I wonder that too. Also why the ruskies are spetsnaz and not FSB.

[RockSushi]

I don't think there's a regular Joe that knows what FSB is.

[Strikerrr]

[QUOTE=sa2fan;51303162]I wonder why they went with FBI Swat instead of HRT.[/QUOTE]

Probably because the general audience is more familiar with SWAT than HRT. Same reason why there are SEALs instead of Delta Force.

It's a shame because Rainbow Six was originally inspired by the HRT

[lexus04]

[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;51303546]I don't think there's a regular Joe that knows what FSB is.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that's applicable, since names such as BOPE, SAT and JTF2 aren't exactly more commonly heard and yet are in the game

[RockSushi]

[QUOTE=lexus04;51303575]I don't think that's applicable, since names such as BOPE, SAT and JTF2 aren't exactly more commonly heard and yet are in the game[/QUOTE]

Then it must've been that the design team just didn't think of them.

Also speaking of BOPE, they are one of the most notorious special ops in the world and they are not that unheard of imo. Also if anyone who is reading this post has not seen Elite Squad, please fix that mistake and do it now.

[Chill]

[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;51303380]
I wonder that too. Also why the ruskies are spetsnaz and not FSB.[/QUOTE]

Again, not 100% sure on this, but Spetsnaz is a very wide term and some FSB forces can be called this, I don't remember who exactly, but some of the Russian operators have FSB written on their gear and somebody has in their bio that they belong to the Alpha Group and the Vympel Group.

[lexus04]

[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;51303592]Then it must've been that the design team just didn't think of them.

Also speaking of BOPE, they are one of the most notorious special ops in the world and they are not that unheard of imo. Also if anyone who is reading this post has not seen Elite Squad, please fix that mistake and do it now.[/QUOTE]

I never heard of BOPE before playing r6, same with SAT and JTF2.

[QUOTE=Lance99;51303639]Again, not 100% sure on this, but Spetsnaz is a very wide term and some FSB forces can be called this, I don't remember who exactly, but some of the Russian operators have FSB written on their gear and somebody has in their bio that they belong to the Alpha Group and the Vympel Group.[/QUOTE]

spetsnaz is just a portmanteau of "spetsialnoe" and "naznachenie" aka special purpose, any CTU could be called spetsnaz and it would be technically correct, and as you stated, the ops in the game belong to the Alpha spetsnaz unit of the FSB. Basically, you could say that SWAT is a spetsnaz unit of the FBI.

[Flamester]

They could be saving the other CTUs for year two maybe.