• The Binding of Isaac series. GOT A QUESTION? USE THE WIKI: http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.co
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[QUOTE=Fapplejack;49070922]Would people get offended if I just run-edit the NO! Trinket into all of my Issac, Maggie, Judas, Lost, and Lillith runs? I have been having games where I get to the depths before I get a treasure room item I can actually leave the room with.[/QUOTE] I think treasure rooms that contain spacebar items should either have a reroll machine or a second, passive item.
Proposed changes to ???: + Starts with The Poop and Petrified Poop + Red heart pickups become blue attack flies when collected + Devil deal items cost the same number of soul hearts as they would red ones + Innately higher chance to find soul hearts (roughly 15% better than other characters) - Starts with -1 luck - Still cannot ever have red hearts
[QUOTE=Everything;49071371]Proposed changes to ???: + Starts with The Poop and Petrified Poop + Red heart pickups become blue attack flies when collected + Devil deal items cost the same number of soul hearts as they would red ones + Innately higher chance to find soul hearts (roughly 15% better than other characters) - Starts with -1 luck - Still cannot ever have red hearts[/QUOTE] Now he's way too good. I dunno I think BB is fine as is. Unlike Vanilla Isaac in Rebirth and onward there are a ton more soul heart friendly items to make BB not bad. Not to mention Polaroid makes him amazing.
[QUOTE=Everything;49071371]Proposed changes to ???: + Starts with The Poop and Petrified Poop + Red heart pickups become blue attack flies when collected + Devil deal items cost the same number of soul hearts as they would red ones + Innately higher chance to find soul hearts (roughly 15% better than other characters) - Starts with -1 luck - Still cannot ever have red hearts[/QUOTE] that's just making him too easy, the whole point of ??? imo is to avoid getting hit at all costs. back in flash he was meant to be the hard mode character, but sitting on soul hearts only is too damn good, so he's one of the better characters he doesn't need any changes
[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;49071290]So, in your opinions, what is the best version of ???'s theme?[/QUOTE] even if ridiculon's tracks are great, you can't argue against danny motherfucking B
My reasoning in this is that while the lost is tense even with his recent buffs, BB is still an absolute slog to play. He's not even entertaining in a rage-fueled gaming sense, he's just tedious as all hell to use. At least give him something unique that's positive. Everyone else has something, like the lost starting with spectral. BB has nerfs and that's it.
this game is broken [url]http://i.imgur.com/RJ0wP6B.png[/url] I'm supposed to not get this in my item pool (this is on hard mode fyi)
[QUOTE=Ithon;49071529]this game is broken [url]http://i.imgur.com/RJ0wP6B.png[/url] I'm supposed to not get this in my item pool (this is on hard mode fyi)[/QUOTE] did you pick up chaos?
??? is the hard mode of the game, with Lost being the insane mode of the game. No character needs a buff or nerf, except maybe Lost to avoid plain unfun conditions like unavoidable super troll bombs and constant HP buffs.
[QUOTE=Everything;49071514]My reasoning in this is that while the lost is tense even with his recent buffs, BB is still an absolute slog to play. He's not even entertaining in a rage-fueled gaming sense, he's just tedious as all hell to use. At least give him something unique that's positive. Everyone else has something, like the lost starting with spectral. BB has nerfs and that's it.[/QUOTE] BB has Isaac's starting stats minus the health which is actually pretty nice. Obviously Isaac is better because the D6 is one of the best items in the game but it's not like his stats are trash or anything.
[QUOTE=Fapplejack;49071698]??? is the hard mode of the game, with Lost being the insane mode of the game. No character needs a buff or nerf, except maybe Lost to avoid plain unfun conditions like unavoidable super troll bombs and constant HP buffs.[/QUOTE] My point is that ??? isn't fun at all to play, from any perspective. He's the only character that starts with no boon whatsoever, and has one of the harshest nerfs. His dark room path feels like water torture. Even the Lost starts with some of the best things to have in any given run (spectral, flight, build re-roll, free devil deals), at least give ??? [I]something.[/I]
[QUOTE=postal;49071547]did you pick up chaos?[/QUOTE] basement 1..... I should had saved the seed, shit
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/zZeDq0K.jpg[/IMG] Well I'll be [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlAQ8fdqoFA"]hot damned[/URL]. Picked up the book of revelations on caves 2 and somehow still built meat boy. [editline]t[/editline] And then I lost the whole run in the dark room because I wound up getting double adversary > triple fallen > double carcass queen > double adversary. That was a really good ??? run too. Welp, time to restart for another hour until I get something decent, and then fail in the same place again as always.
Anyone got any Afterbirth Lost unlock seeds?
[QUOTE=Everything;49071779]My point is that ??? isn't fun at all to play, from any perspective. He's the only character that starts with no boon whatsoever, and has one of the harshest nerfs. His dark room path feels like water torture. Even the Lost starts with some of the best things to have in any given run (spectral, flight, build re-roll, free devil deals), at least give ??? [I]something.[/I][/QUOTE] Old ??? used to actually have nothing going in favor of him. Then Halloween added Whore of Babylon which is always useful for him, then people discovered that you could abuse i-frames to steal devil deal items in Flash. Then Wrath of the Lamb added a plethora of items that synergize with his unique health status. Rebirth comes along and adds even more of these things, then guarantees that the Polaroid is provided so he effectively always has 5 seconds of i-frames from then onward. He's not exactly hard anymore. He hasn't even been changed since Flash Isaac, instead he just has more things to interact with that take advantage of that special health status. The excessive reliance on special drops could be better. While blue fly drops would help his damage, it'd hurt in the long run to be incapable of [i]using[/i] those red hearts as D20 fuel or food for Dark Bum. Lil Larva would work well with The Poop, as it'd allow ??? to generate helpers without it interfering with health drops. Your suggestion to drop deal costs down is overkill, soul hearts are more plentiful than heart containers are, that's why they cost more.
Any statement in favor of the polaroid working well with him is effectively null when you remember there is a path where you are not allowed to pick it up, and it's the most difficult one in vanilla rebirth. Also I don't see why attack flies from heart pickups would hurt him if he has something that uses heart pickups. Just don't pick them up. You're significantly more likely to wind up with a floor of drops you can't use than you are to have either dark bum or the D20 (or the daemon's tail) to make any use of them anyway. [editline]t[/editline] He needs at least one unique benefit IMO, to offset his crippling nerf. Other characters can very easily get the boon of always-on babylon and polaroid, those aren't exclusive to him.
playing afterbirth is like playing this game right from the very beggining I have no idea what the fuck anything means anymore and I had platinum god
[QUOTE=CompanionMube;49071511]even if ridiculon's tracks are great, you can't argue against danny motherfucking B[/QUOTE] I still think Ed's insane for ditching Danny.
That blue baby bomber challenge is nice. If you get judas shadow and then come back, pick up magic mushroom and a bloodbag. Easy win. Along with a ball of bandages. accidently did satan but I was unkillable with 6 red heart containers.
There's something wrong if I can't beat Ultra Greed with Abaddon + Sacred Heart or Ipecac + Mom's Knife. This scaled health thing needs to be toned down. I'd be better off going full on tank like it was Vanilla Isaac or scumming the game with Gnawed Leaf and Daddy Long Legs.
God damn I hate The Haunt so much when he's the first boss. Fucking little ghosts are so god damn fast.
oh my god... get far into greed mode with the lost with epic fetus, go to progress to the next floor and the trapdoor room is filled with tiny spiders and I die i'm never going to beat this shit
[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;49071290]So, in your opinions, what is the best version of ???'s theme? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RMnjL6X2gg[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT3sXT9x9CU[/media][/QUOTE] Both are amazing pieces. Ascension isn't as "epic" as My Innermost Apocalypse (which sadly it's a track that is abused for comparing to Rebirth's tracks) because ??? isn't considered the truest final boss in Rebirth.
[QUOTE=Mr. N;49072293]I still think Ed's insane for ditching Danny.[/QUOTE] It's the other way around. He doesn't want to take part in Ed's work anymore.
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;49072853]It's the other way around. Danny ditched Edmund.[/QUOTE] He's a freelance music composer. He can't "ditch" anyone. Besides Edmund said that he decided not to use Danny's music in Rebirth a few months before release. It was Edmund choice, not Danny's.
just found out the hard way that curse of the maze can port you into the curse room in greed mode as the lost
[QUOTE=TectoImprov;49072876]He's a freelance music composer. He can't "ditch" anyone. Besides Edmund said that he decided not to use Danny's music in Rebirth a few months before release. It was Edmund choice, not Danny's.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://dannybstyle.blogspot.ch/2015/10/regarding-my-super-meat-boy-soundtrack.html"] No, you're factually wrong.[/URL]
as if the scaling wasn't lame enough, why did they feel the need to make greed more aggressive
Today's daily run gives a chance to skip past the tropyhy thanks to a bedroom on depths 2 having a hole in it to womb. What happens if you skip the trophy? If you beat the entire game do you still get to submit your score or is it forfeit?
beat the guardian challenge with 1 and a half soul hearts left, and when it lives exploded, the ring of tears hit the punching bag, leaving me with half a heart they really need to improve the AI on that thing
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