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At least Zagara went completely unfucked.

[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;47113199]WHAT DID YOU DO TO CHEN BLIZZARD? HE DIDN'T DESERVE THIS. Also I'm not surprised to see Anub'Arak nerfs. As much fun as he is to play, I almost never lose games when I play as him. The web spin buff is nice though, I'm actually going to start picking that up every so often. And no Abathur buffs except for one. Yep I guess that 10k gold is going to the vikings. And what the hell happened with Sonya? Was she buffed? Nerfed? I don't even know. Edit: Holy shit Diabro's Shadow Charge was fixed. Miracles do happen.[/QUOTE]I feel like they just made Chen worthless in one fell swoop. He was only able to be good through the combination of the three abilities that they moved to level 16, now that he can only take one of them I think he's gonna crash hard.

Well. I'm glad I play pretty much nothing but Anub'arak and ETC. Rewind back on Anub is hilarious, and I can deal with the small nerfs to Anub.

[QUOTE=Banned?;47113762] Sonya got [I]nerfed??? WHY[/I] would you increase the Fury costs like that? You more than double the cost of Seismic Slam and give a whole 10% damage increase. Thanks, I'm fucking grateful. Tychus also got ruined with that ultimate change. No more second lives.[/QUOTE] Was Sonya actually nerfed? They upped her fury generation in pretty much every possible way. Has anyone actually done the math and figured out if the increased generation makes up for the increased costs? Also the Odin was never about having a second life. You're not supposed to go, "Oh shit I'm out of position and dying, better pop my ult to stay alive for a few more seconds." It's meant to be used in relative safety, you use it to do a fuck load of damage. They gave it more range, attack speed, ability damage, and fuck even a dash to keep you safe while you pump out damage in it. I rather like the direction they took with it.

Lost Vikings remind me a bit of Meepo. They even have an innate lower respawn time. Don't like what they did to Tychus, the second layer of health for the Odin was honestly not a big deal imo. Wish they would've done something to Thrall. I still hate playing up against him.

[QUOTE=Sparrowsluck;47113918]Was Sonya actually nerfed? They upped her fury generation in pretty much every possible way. Has anyone actually done the math and figured out if the increased generation makes up for the increased costs? Also the Odin was never about having a second life. You're not supposed to go, "Oh shit I'm out of position and dying, better pop my ult to stay alive for a few more seconds." It's meant to be used in relative safety, you use it to do a fuck load of damage. They gave it more range, attack speed, ability damage, and fuck even a dash to keep you safe while you pump out damage in it. I rather like the direction they took with it.[/QUOTE] Fury generation was never the issue. With everything costing more Fury, it's less damage to be pumped out from a full Fury bar than before. And I know that wasn't the point of it, just funny to see people use it as an "oh shit" button and it get wrecked before it even properly deploys. I also missed that they gave it a dash. I prob read it too fast because I don't own or play Tychus.

[QUOTE=Exooodus;47113933] Wish they would've done something to Thrall. I still hate playing up against him.[/QUOTE] They removed battle momentum though. That [B]SEVERELY [/B]reduces the effectiveness of windfury builds.

Also, they ruined Grunty Murky. He looks fucking sickly now. [t]http://i.imgur.com/AUKH7LF.png[/t] Literally worst patch.

[QUOTE=Banned?;47113969]Also, they ruined Grunty Murky. He looks fucking sickly now. [t]http://i.imgur.com/AUKH7LF.png[/t] Literally worst patch.[/QUOTE] He's supposed to be Grunty [img]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/2/20/Grunty_facing.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090513181246[/img] Also they got rid of the stupid fish and gave him something appropriate for the skin

[QUOTE=Skyward;47113963]They removed battle momentum though. That [B]SEVERELY [/B]reduces the effectiveness of windfury builds.[/QUOTE] Which is pretty much his only build.

[QUOTE=Jzzb;47113977]He's supposed to be Grunty [img]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/2/20/Grunty_facing.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090513181246[/img] Also they got rid of the stupid fish and gave him something appropriate for the skin[/QUOTE] I know, but Grunty is pink-ish, Murky is this sickly looking grey. I'm being sarcastic too. I think it's ugly but whatever.

[QUOTE=Sparrowsluck;47113996]Which is pretty much his only build.[/QUOTE]Well, more like it was so OP it was the only build worth using. Nobody has tried other builds.

First game vs vikings and they fed us uncontrollably. I don't think the guy took any of the skills except the viking boat.

Jaina is insanely squishy, holy shit.

[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;47114089]First game vs vikings and they fed us uncontrollably. I don't think the guy took any of the skills except the viking boat.[/QUOTE]Talent-gated Vikings must be a nightmare Why don't they fucking get rid of talent-gating already, all it does is lead to 4 unenjoyable games until you unlock the good talents

[QUOTE=Banned?;47114106]Jaina is insanely squishy, holy shit.[/QUOTE] But those nukes are mad. I think she's a lot of fun, might buy her when I can.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLUKSUNLENI[/media] do the lost vikings count as a blizzard deep cut

Holy shit Anub'arak got even better. Him having access to both Blood for Blood and Rewind at the same time, combined with an 8 second lockdown with his cocoon means that teamfights are a fucking joke for him.

[QUOTE=Banned?;47113969]Also, they ruined Grunty Murky. He looks fucking sickly now. [t]http://i.imgur.com/AUKH7LF.png[/t] Literally worst patch.[/QUOTE] His skin color looks weird, but the rest of it looks MUCH better. Before he used to be a clipping mess. Not that it matters because they nerfed Murky into even further obscurity v:v:v

Why would they change Raynor like that? I thought he was pretty balanced as he was.

[QUOTE=ryfry99;47114957]Why would they change Raynor like that? I thought he was pretty balanced as he was.[/QUOTE] He was ok with one spec that was auto attacking, apart from that he was bland and outdated as shit.

I like Raynor's changes. The cosmetic ones too, his attacks sound and look cooler.

So is it fair to say an auto-attack build for Valla is Just Better? I'm not entirely sure what she can do with a skill build.

[QUOTE=SgtWoodsy;47118965]So is it fair to say an auto-attack build for Valla is Just Better? I'm not entirely sure what she can do with a skill build.[/QUOTE] Auto-attack build is better for 1v1s, this game is about team fights. Her multishot build is the best way to pump out a load of damage. [url]http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/15-valla#KEDEMFmBvIpBVKPAA[/url]

Could I still go for the right click build for Raynor (Seasoned Marksmen, Giant Killer, etc) or is he just pretty much not worth playing now since the patch?

Seasoned Marksmen wasn't worth it anyway.

I didn't think so. In a game where fighting constantly seems to be key, the farming aspect of SM seemed a bit too contrasting (especially with how slowly it builds up), but with how heavily they nerfed his attack damage, I wasn't too sure if maybe it was worth it now to try to mitigate that some.

Wow... Worst nerf of the patch? Tychus lost his cigar.

Got around to checking those statistic sites. What's a decent MMR to have on gg and logs? If it's like DoTA then I'm a shitter :v: