Resident Evil Megathread: COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION! - Games

[QUOTE=Rusty100;51781316]how is that egotistical? she is your wife???[/QUOTE] ... You do have a point. I'm starting to see why I'm single

[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;51781280][Resident Evil 7: Biohazard] So, I can only assume I'm at the last level of the game, [sp]the ship where all this damned mess started[/sp] and that I'm an hour or so away from the ending. I'll be sure to finish it tomorrow. I had to look up on the web two plot-related issues that kept troubling me: 1) At first I assumed that [sp]the monstrous boss you fight[/sp] at the end of the Lucas' level was [sp]Lucas himself[/sp]. Apparently he's [sp]Jack Baker, while Lucas is implied to just flee the scene[/sp]. I don't know how I missed this, maybe it was [sp]THE SUDDEN APPARITION OF A FUCKING BIG ABOMINATION MAKING ME LOSE MY COOL[/sp] 2) The very choice that determines your final ending. [sp] So apparently if you act a bit egoistical and give the serum to Mia both her and Zoe, at the very least, don't die due to the events of the game. If you give it to Zoe, instead, they both die.[/sp] I can't really see where the writers wanted to go with this and, for the record, [sp]I gave it to Mia even if I wanted to give it to Zoe. BADLY.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]A scene at the end of the ship section silently implies Zoe died even if you cure Mia. For some unspoken reason she's doomed with the rest of her family no matter what.[/sp]

It blows my mind how quickly you can beat this game when you just blow past everything.

Yeah I'm really not sure why people even [sp]pick Zoe, like other than lead you to places this is the first time you see her and you are expected to trust her?[/sp] She could [sp]have been using you this entire time, I mean she was the most lucid out of all of them.[/sp]Or hell I'm not even sure why it's a [sp]choice in the first place, because it's not REALLY a choice, like the main characters wife, the person he's come here for, fought for, almost died for and you suddenly turn around and pick this random chick you barely know?[/sp] like what's even the point of it [sp]other than to fuck up your ending.[/sp] Like is it just me or is it a completely nonsensical[sp], completely fake choice that honestly feels rather tacked on when it didn't even need to be a thing, it doesn't add anything to the story, it just subtracts from it.[/sp]

[QUOTE=jonu67;51781414]Yeah I'm really not sure why people even [sp]pick Zoe, like other than lead you to places this is the first time you see her and you are expected to trust her?[/sp] She could [sp]have been using you this entire time, I mean she was the most lucid out of all of them.[/sp]Or hell I'm not even sure why it's a [sp]choice in the first place, because it's not REALLY a choice, like the main characters wife, the person he's come here for, fought for, almost died for and you suddenly turn around and pick this random chick you barely know?[/sp] like what's even the point of it [sp]other than to fuck up your ending.[/sp] Like is it just me or is it a completely nonsensical[sp], completely fake choice.[/sp][/QUOTE] Speedrunners choice?

[QUOTE=Exploders;51781424]Speedrunners choice?[/QUOTE] Perhaps, I mean, [sp]don't you have to fight Mia as a boss.[/sp] You don't really have to do that in the [sp]actual ending[/sp] I feel like the [sp]fakeout ending might take longer or something because of that.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Exploders;51781424]Speedrunners choice?[/QUOTE] [sp]Speedrunners choose Mia anyway.[/sp]

I just beat Margerite and boy was that nasty.

[QUOTE=Dr.C;51781699]I just beat Margerite and boy was that nasty.[/QUOTE] The sound effects alone.

I can max RE7 out in 4k on a gtx 1080 yeah? what's the best I can do

[QUOTE=Rusty100;51781316]how is that egotistical? she is your wife???[/QUOTE] [sp]She's a literal bioterrorist partly responsible for the events of the game. She was part of a package deal with Eveline.[/sp]

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51781905][sp]She's a literal bioterrorist partly responsible for the events of the game. She was part of a package deal with Eveline.[/sp][/QUOTE] I mean, she wasn't [sp]part of any package deal, she was just the delivery girl and the imprinting is a temporary thing to keep Eveline in line, I'm assuming Eveline would have been transferred over to someone else at some point and then sent out and utilized against (Insert enemy here) Either way, I don't think it really matters, she's still your wife and bioweapons are a business and a fact of life in the Resident Evil universe, she was just doing a simple delivery job[/sp] And [sp]picking Zoe makes no fucking sense, because at that point you wouldn't know anything about her job anyway and even if you knew, it's a complete stranger vs the characters wife, knowledge of her job or not, I really don't feel like he'd 180 and not save her after all he's been through.[/sp]

I wonder what Mia meant when [sp]she asked what Ethan was hiding during her boss fight? There's definitely something more to his character than we know. This is some Mr. and Mrs. Smith type shit. [/sp]

[QUOTE=jonu67;51781926]I mean, she wasn't [sp]part of any package deal, she was just the delivery girl and the imprinting is a temporary thing to keep Eveline in line, I'm assuming Eveline would have been transferred over to someone else at some point and then sent out and utilized against (Insert enemy here) Either way, I don't think it really matters, she's still your wife and bioweapons are a business and a fact of life in the Resident Evil universe, she was just doing a simple delivery job[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]No, she was part of a package deal. The "newspaper article" from the credits (which I believe is just ripped from documents) says that Eveline comes with handlers. Her and Alan were there to monitor Eveline and control her even when the clients have her. Their job is to terminate her after she's used. If Mia and Alan are soldiers on a battlefield, Eveline is their gun. And besides, who would you rather save? A literal terrorist whose job is to transport bio weapons, or an innocent woman whose family was needlessly sacrificed due to the actions of said terrorist?[/sp]

[Sp]She tried to kill him on several occassions, caused innocent people to die, and lied to him about her job and life. Zoe meanwhile was only ever nice and helpful to you throughout the game. Wife or not, Mia is kind of a bitch. I'll be fair and say that she was under Eveline's control when she tried to kill Ethan but that was still due to her own fault. I don't fault people for picking Zoe and I think it's a stupid cheap copout that she instantly dies anyways. Gameplay and storywise it's the shittier option which feels lazy to me.[/sp]

Just did a New game Madhouse run and got 2:01:43 with zero deaths. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7e5fTtBpsY[/media] Needless to say the whole game is spoiled if you watch.

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51782069]I wonder what Mia meant when [sp]she asked what Ethan was hiding during her boss fight? There's definitely something more to his character than we know. This is some Mr. and Mrs. Smith type shit. [/sp][/QUOTE] Well, at the end of the game [sp]Ethan says to "Redfield" "What the fuck took you guys so long?" On one hand, you could argue it was his sarcastic personality coming out (there were a few lines and quips throughout the game that make me think he has one). On the other hand, he could actually be an Umbrella agent and had called them in prior to the beginning of the game. It could explain why he had no reaction to the helicopters flying overhead or the radio conversation about Lucas, while he did have some reactions to other random things.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Mentlegen;51782198][Sp]She tried to kill him on several occassions, caused innocent people to die, and lied to him about her job and life. Zoe meanwhile was only ever nice and helpful to you throughout the game. Wife or not, Mia is kind of a bitch. I'll be fair and say that she was under Eveline's control when she tried to kill Ethan but that was still due to her own fault. I don't fault people for picking Zoe and I think it's a stupid cheap copout that she instantly dies anyways. Gameplay and storywise it's the shittier option which feels lazy to me.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]I don't get how she's a bitch or how Eveline getting out is her fault. All Mia ever does is try to protect Ethan by keeping him away from the horrible things happening. the only "bitchy" thing that either of the women do is when Zoe laughs at Ethan when he asks why she didn't tell him about her moms bugs.[/sp] [editline]5th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51782160][sp]No, she was part of a package deal. The "newspaper article" from the credits (which I believe is just ripped from documents) says that Eveline comes with handlers. Her and Alan were there to monitor Eveline and control her even when the clients have her. Their job is to terminate her after she's used. If Mia and Alan are soldiers on a battlefield, Eveline is their gun. And besides, who would you rather save? A literal terrorist whose job is to transport bio weapons, or an innocent woman whose family was needlessly sacrificed due to the actions of said terrorist?[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]They were transferring Eveline to a Central American branch. They weren't going to be permanent handlers. And I would rather save my wife. Making Ethan choose who to save based on knowing Mia is working for a bioterrorism organization is a moot point. Ethan never finds out about all that during the game. It makes zero sense to choose Zoe.[/sp]

Are you actually serious? [sp]She openly works for Tentsu, a company that would be openly declared biological terrorists in our world, and would be actively hunted down in theirs. Just five years earlier a related firm (through old Umbrella operatives, just like, oh, I don't know, H.C.F., the people who Tentsu worked with to create the E-Series) were directly responsible for nearly 5 million deaths over the span of like, a week. She's paid to be the complacent handler of one of the series most dangerous Bioweapons, one that without the right tools, could have easily led to the destabilization of entire continents. Mia is not innocent in any remote sense of the word. No one involved in what happens in RE7 behind the scenes is. There is absolutely 0 justification for what they're doing, and Mia is as much a part of it as anyone else. Sure it makes sense that Ethan cares, she's his wife, but in reality she was open to let Eveline be uses.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Zeos;51782432]Are you actually serious? [sp]She openly works for Tentsu, a company that would be openly declared biological terrorists in our world, and would be actively hunted down in theirs. Just five years earlier a related firm (through old Umbrella operatives, just like, oh, I don't know, H.C.F., the people who Tentsu worked with to create the E-Series) were directly responsible for nearly 5 million deaths over the span of like, a week. She's paid to be the complacent handler of one of the series most dangerous Bioweapons, one that without the right tools, could have easily led to the destabilization of entire continents. Mia is not innocent in any remote sense of the word. No one involved in what happens in RE7 behind the scenes is. There is absolutely 0 justification for what they're doing, and Mia is as much a part of it as anyone else. Sure it makes sense that Ethan cares, she's his wife, but in reality she was open to let Eveline be uses.[/sp][/QUOTE] From a character standpoint it makes sense. [sp] Ethan never saw any of the evidence that indicated Mia was part of this evil corporation. Mia is kind of shit sure, but Ethan doesn't know that. Not yet anyways. They'll probably have a long talk after the events of ending 1. [/sp]

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51782455]From a character standpoint it makes sense. [sp] Ethan never saw any of the evidence that indicated Mia was part of this evil corporation. Mia is kind of shit sure, but Ethan doesn't know that. Not yet anyways. They'll probably have a long talk after the events of ending 1. [/sp][/QUOTE] Except he does? There's files all over the fucking place that he can find that talk about these things.

[sp]Nobody is really arguing that she's innocent. I'm arguing that choosing Zoe is a silly choice that makes no sense. I would argue that she isn't evil even though the people signing her paychecks are evil. Just in the same way that Ada isn't evil and she has done much worse shit than Mia.[/sp] [editline]5th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;51782506]Except he does? There's files all over the fucking place that he can find that talk about these things.[/QUOTE] [sp]Not 'til after the choice.[/sp]

[QUOTE=PotatoArmada;51782514][sp]Nobody is really arguing that she's innocent. I'm arguing that choosing Zoe is a silly choice that makes no sense. I would argue that she isn't evil even though the people signing her paychecks are evil. Just in the same way that Ada isn't evil and she has done much worse shit than Mia.[/sp] [editline]5th February 2017[/editline] [sp]Not 'til after the choice.[/sp][/QUOTE] Ada gets a free pass because she's hot.

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51782529]Ada gets a free pass because she's hot.[/QUOTE] [sp]If Mia wore a chinese dress, everyone would have chosen her.[/sp] :v:

[QUOTE=PotatoArmada;51782514][sp]Nobody is really arguing that she's innocent. I'm arguing that choosing Zoe is a silly choice that makes no sense.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Zoe is a neutral party that knows how to make an antidote for Eveline's "virus". Ethan even says that as he rides the boat away from the dock. Picking her makes more sense than Mia. Even if she wasn't a bioterrorist, she would just be a normal person who wouldn't be able to help in the event of a major outbreak. Zoe at least had knowledge of how Eveline's "gift" worked.[/sp]

[QUOTE=PotatoArmada;51782530][sp]If Mia wore a chinese dress, everyone would have chosen her.[/sp] :v:[/QUOTE] [sp]What if ZOE wore a Chinese Dress tho? Now this would be a real conundrum of a choice.[/sp] [sp]I don't think having the opportunity to make a decision to pick Mia or Zoe is a bad design choice, on some Let's Plays you could see players had slight hints of doubt picking Mia despite it is kinda obvious it is the supposed choice. Hell, even Ethan tried to justify picking Zoe. It is the immediate event after the pick phase that's shitty because it's not even a story branch. Remember, you don't really know who Mia is at that point other than she's your wife.[/sp]

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51782672][sp]Zoe is a neutral party that knows how to make an antidote for Eveline's "virus". Ethan even says that as he rides the boat away from the dock. Picking her makes more sense than Mia. Even if she wasn't a bioterrorist, she would just be a normal person who wouldn't be able to help in the event of a major outbreak. Zoe at least had knowledge of how Eveline's "gift" worked.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Mia knows how to make the cure too. Zoe finds out how because the crashed ship had all the materials. Materials that Mia and Alan brought with them.[/sp]

Not even sure why [sp] theres even a discussion over who you "should" have chosen, it's such a silly non-choice that impacts nothing but fucking with your ending. I chose Zoe because she's a qt and the game made shit all attempts to build a meaningful bond to Mia. Arguing over who Ethan should/would've chosen is pointless. [/sp]

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51781905][sp]She's a literal bioterrorist partly responsible for the events of the game. She was part of a package deal with Eveline.[/sp][/QUOTE] i realise that but she was also ethans wife ofc hes gonna choose her over a random woman hes never met with unknown motives??

[SP] The option that makes [I]in universe[/I] sense is Mia, Zoe phones you up a couple of times and hardly divuldges any usefull information to you and is pretty cryptic about what she does tell you, in fact i'll openly say it. I did not trust Zoe, but I did trust non Eveline mode Mia who you could get back through the cure. So far as you are aware, you've gone to find your wife so that is what the goal is. Now the revelations that come about after the ship section did make me question Mia's 'innocence', but it also made me question Ethan too laregly because his face is deliberately obscured but also because Eveline straight up says to Mia that Ethan does not love her, then throw in the ending and how Ethan acts for just a normal guy, it leads me into thinking he is an agent for someone else, likely umberella, and Mia is a job not a real partner, in which case Ethan would still pick Mia because she's his mission [/SP]