Battlefield Franchise Megathread V1 - 'Hardline is still DLC' Edition - Games

So I decided to play again and.... Zavod is the hardest map to learn. There is so many little covers that is hard to keep track on.

When i snipe people i don't even then know where they will land/hit. When using 44. magnum or Mare's leg. I also have this problem when i sure am 95% that i gave a guy a headshot, but is still running. bit frustrating is you ask me.

[QUOTE=coverop;48817072]So I decided to play again and.... Zavod is the hardest map to learn. There is so many little covers that is hard to keep track on.[/QUOTE] Mortar helps you find them. The snipers like to hide there. Just wait for the triangles that don't move and *boom*, there's a hiding spot.

[QUOTE=snijboer;48819524]when i sure am 95% that i gave a guy a headshot, but is still running. bit frustrating is you ask me.[/QUOTE] Why I use the network overlay

Well I mean don't forget that only sniper rifles give 1-hit headshots (except shotguns but those ignore headshot multiplier). So it's definitely possible to headshot someone and have them running around.

[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;48820768]Well I mean don't forget that only sniper rifles give 1-hit headshots (except shotguns but those ignore headshot multiplier). So it's definitely possible to headshot someone and have them running around.[/QUOTE] LSAT needed ~3 shots to the head last I had an opportunity to actually count them. (Could technically be 2.4 or some shit like that).

[QUOTE=Daemon White;48820775]LSAT needed ~3 shots to the head last I had an opportunity to actually count them. (Could technically be 2.4 or some shit like that).[/QUOTE] The LMG? Yeah, at close range you need 2 headshots and 3 at long range.

Ugh I understand though that nothing is more frustrating than seeing that headshot land and you get killed. Btw if you guys didn't know, you can change the colors of your hit marker by hits, headshots, and kills.

[QUOTE=Cold Blood;48824438]Btw if you guys didn't know, you can change the colors of your hit marker by hits, headshots, and kills.[/QUOTE] Yeah, been that way for a couple of months now. Since the spring patch if I recall correctly.

[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;48820768]Well I mean don't forget that only sniper rifles give 1-hit headshots (except shotguns but those ignore headshot multiplier). So it's definitely possible to headshot someone and have them running around.[/QUOTE] Only sniper rifles? I thought shotgun slugs rounds too. I use slugs as my main weapon in the whole game. They do headshot, but not always. Sometimes i use the scopes reticle for aiming at a far distance. But i mostly do it as i feel. But it is difficult though.

[QUOTE=snijboer;48824831]Only sniper rifles? I thought shotgun slugs rounds too. I use slugs as my main weapon in the whole game. They do headshot, but not always. Sometimes i use the scopes reticle for aiming at a far distance. But i mostly do it as i feel. But it is difficult though.[/QUOTE] I forgot about slugs, they do 1-hit headshot but I don't use them because they're really shit.

Slugs can be fixed by removing defensive perk altogether. Fuck that perk for invalidating an entire ammunition type along with fucking over certain weapons by doubling their BTK.

BTK? And yeah, if I had one thing I'd remove from the game it would be the defense perk.

Bullets to kill :v:

[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;48825129]I forgot about slugs, they do 1-hit headshot but I don't use them because they're really shit.[/QUOTE] Mind want to tell why it is shit? I am curious. [QUOTE=Derp123213;48825134]Slugs can be fixed by removing defensive perk altogether. Fuck that perk for invalidating an entire ammunition type along with fucking over certain weapons by doubling their BTK.[/QUOTE] Well, yeah the defensive perk should be vanished. It does ruin the whole shotgun slug rounds. If only you could make headshots with it....otherwise, no.

[QUOTE=snijboer;48825652]Mind want to tell why it is shit? I am curious.[/QUOTE] Pretty finicky aim-down-sight accuracy, relatively slow travel speed, high projectile drop, difficult to follow-up shots at longer range, defensive perk negates OHK on chest shot a close range. Basically tries to turn the weapon it a medium-range gun and completely fails at it because it's bad at ALL ranges now instead of melting face with flechette or buckshot at short range and being able to kill at medium range through consistent attrition.

[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;48825694]Pretty finicky aim-down-sight accuracy, relatively slow travel speed, high projectile drop, difficult to follow-up shots at longer range, defensive perk negates OHK on chest shot a close range. Basically tries to turn the weapon it a medium-range gun and completely fails at it because it's bad at ALL ranges now instead of melting face with flechette or buckshot at short range and being able to kill at medium range through consistent attrition.[/QUOTE] I agree with you, there are problems with these slugs rounds, i remember an image that shows off what the problem was with slugs in BF4. Found it! [img]http://i.imgur.com/1Y1wXHs.jpg[/img] Slug rounds are actually the purpose for shooting players down at far range? isn't it? I remember back in Bad company 2 they were hilariously strong since there was no bullet drop. Anyway, yeah they should tweak the bulletdrop and travel speed of the slug round. hm, did you also tried the QBS-09? One of best shotgun for using slug rounds in my opinion. I avoid pump-action shotguns since they have no grips to attach on, and their scope swaying is way more than when i use the potato grip attachment for the QBS-09. I say, try that out and see if that makes it a bit better on aiming, pump-actions also have this terrible drawback and that makes it really hard for a follow up shot. Oh and, what shotgun do you use for slugs?

Neostead slug sniping in BC2 was meta

Is it me or has the buckshot been buffed or something in BF4? Noticed I've been dying quite a lot to shotguns at much longer ranges now. Some are kind of rediculous like from across rooftops 50-100 metres away. Not sure if it's the range or overall damage but sometimes I'm being one shotted from extreme shotgun ranges or 2 hits

Never played BF4, is it worth "upgrading" to BF4 premium from 3 or is not really that different? Perhaps when there's a future sale?

[QUOTE=Kilgore 2nd;48825952]Is it me or has the buckshot been buffed or something in BF4? Noticed I've been dying quite a lot to shotguns at much longer ranges now. Some are kind of rediculous like from across rooftops 50-100 metres away. Not sure if it's the range or overall damage but sometimes I'm being one shotted from extreme shotgun ranges or 2 hits[/QUOTE] Overall damage buff. Pellets do a bit less damage but there's MUCH more of them now, almost double for most shotguns. Pair it with the full choke and it's indeed not much of a stretch to kill people at 30-40 meters if you ADS.

[QUOTE=wootmonster;48826008]Never played BF4, is it worth "upgrading" to BF4 premium from 3 or is not really that different? Perhaps when there's a future sale?[/QUOTE] I'd say definitely pick it up on a sale.

[QUOTE=snijboer;48825843]Oh and, what shotgun do you use for slugs?[/QUOTE] SPAS-12. Never again. As for Semis, I'd rather do partial damage on a near-miss and kill the guy in a few hits than to rely on hitting them a 100% time with slugs. [editline]4th October 2015[/editline] In unrelated news, here's a funny clip I took the other day: [video=youtube;vljNA8TZv88]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vljNA8TZv88[/video]

Angry that no one wants to pay for 60hz servers, there's like 2 total for BF4 conquest. Both are 32 man slots. In other news, got to 10,000 C4 kills. [url]http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/JJ4prez/stats/363611148/pc/[/url]

Just what i thought, The QBS-09 shotgun has the most less drawback when firing. You might be interested in this, strawberry. [url]http://symthic.com/bf4-shotgun-stats?p=stats[/url] All the stats and everything of the rounds in bf4.

Finally got to try Zavod Night Shift :excited: It was fun as heck moving slower than usual as it's harder to keep track of stuff in the darkness. Surprisingly enough, people rarely spot each other, so 3D spotting didn't do much to fuck up the atmosphere.

First game on, get called: A Fag, Asshole Macro abuser G18 sprayer AEK e z mode player Assault whore Hacker Nigger And the 1 guy who said all this raged on me and left the server. I joined in late and did this: [URL]http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/650944924521799808/393161890/[/URL]

Yeah, it's usually only one guy or two doing the shittalking. [editline]5th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=snijboer;48832034]Just what i thought, The QBS-09 shotgun has the most less drawback when firing. You might be interested in this, strawberry. [URL]http://symthic.com/bf4-shotgun-stats?p=stats[/URL] All the stats and everything of the rounds in bf4.[/QUOTE] The QBS-09 was actually the semi I used the most before the buff. Now I'd rather use a shotgun with bigger ammo capacity. [editline]5th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=JJ4prez;48830642]Angry that no one wants to pay for 60hz servers, there's like 2 total for BF4 conquest. Both are 32 man slots.[/QUOTE] I've pretty much given hope of seeing a 120 or 144hz server at a decent ping. I'm not even asking for 64 slots, I play conquest small all the time.

You won't be seeing 120-144hz, too expensive for a game like BF4. You will likely see pro leagues with 10 player slots do that. I am just asking for all of the popular US conquest servers to go 60hz, it's a huge difference than 30hz. Right now, a lot of them are going 40hz, which is barely a change.

[QUOTE=LoNer1;48832080]First game on, get called: A Fag, Asshole Macro abuser G18 sprayer AEK e z mode player Assault whore Hacker Nigger And the 1 guy who said all this raged on me and left the server. I joined in late and did this: [URL]http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/650944924521799808/393161890/[/URL][/QUOTE] What sever is this on to get away with this kind of language? I shit you not I've been kicked for saying 'christ' and also another server i was kicked from for saying the word 'computer'. Every place I seem to find has the wierdest fucking word filters.