Battlefield Franchise Megathread V1 - 'Hardline is still DLC' Edition - Games

You can get the phantom bow on the new map super easily :dance:

[QUOTE=Squarebob;48996199]You can get the phantom bow on the new map super easily :dance:[/QUOTE] What do you mean? The community map? Please elaborate

Nobody is going to like every change a patch brings. Overall, I think the changes are good or should at least mix things up a bit.

[QUOTE=Anglor;48996519]What do you mean? The community map? Please elaborate[/QUOTE] there's one crate in the map which you can knife which contains the phantom bow that can be unlocked permanently.

On the NWG server, there's one guy that becomes virtually invincible once he gets in a vehicle. Tank, chopper, whatever. Can't touch him (With exceptions / rare occasions). Imagine his power now.

[QUOTE=QuickShot;48996664]there's one crate in the map which you can knife which contains the phantom bow that can be unlocked permanently.[/QUOTE] Aww shit Can I be lazy and ask for a origin link to the map's FreeLC

Odd, Steam and Origin Store both went down at the same time. Just me? [edit] Ignore origin, just had to go off and online again.

[QUOTE=QuickShot;48996664]there's one crate in the map which you can knife which contains the phantom bow that can be unlocked permanently.[/QUOTE] Whoa shit, I thought I'd never get that bow, thanks

Weekly maintenance for steam every Tuesday around this time. [editline]28th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Anglor;48997014]Whoa shit, I thought I'd never get that bow, thanks[/QUOTE] YES! I love it when someone in my squad starts using the bow, then i equip it and we go on silent rampages.

Guess what's on sale again [t]http://sharex.moe/i/2015/10/15-10-28_14-08-21.jpg[/t] extras [url]http://sharex.moe/i/2015/10/15-10-28_14-09-06.jpg[/url] [editline]28th October 2015[/editline] ayy [t]http://sharex.moe/i/2015/10/15-10-28_14-25-43.jpg[/t]

Thanks scratch. Will try to find it.

I tend to use tanks most so I want to put in some input [quote]Main Battle Tanks Primary: AP Shell The default shell. Good at killing infantry and vehicles. Reduced impulse to give helicopters a better chance of recovering after a hit. [/quote] [quote]Reduced impulse to give helicopters a better chance of recovering after a hit.[/quote] this I don't think was necessary since it's not exactly easy to hit helicopters unless the pilot fucking sucks anus I like the change to HE, mainly the blast radius damage shit The changes to tank ATGMs are nice, in particular the reload time Ray length is the lock on range I'm assuming? Because range from 300m to 550m is a great change [editline]28th October 2015[/editline] [quote]Conquest Flag capture score increased to 400 from 150[/quote] god damn

Takes 25 seconds to get back your C4. Sorry DICE, as a C4 artist, I think I will give up after 1002 hours of BF4. It's been fun.

[QUOTE=JJ4prez;48998391]Thanks scratch. Will try to find it.[/QUOTE] always in the same location

It took more than two C4 to blow up a tank today, what have you done to me DICE

[QUOTE=McTbone;48998766]It took more than two C4 to blow up a tank today, what have you done to me DICE[/QUOTE] Welp, I guess it's time to go back playing Shotgunner Engineer. Playing Shottie Support was fun. [editline]28th October 2015[/editline] Atleast the Bow is now unlockable for all, prem or non-prem(?) Always wanted to git gud with it, any of you got tips other than pistol cheesing if the asshole has Defensive on?

fucking hell Dice, might as well remove C4 altogether.

It's useless now. Imho, even though it was pretty powerful, it was nicely balanced before the patch. If C4 spam was an issue, moderators / server admins could change their rules so c4 use was forbidden

If they wanna reduce the spam, then they should've just increase resupply times along with reduce throw distance by a bit or maybe even specifically reduce it's damage vs infantry only. 3 C4 charges to kill one careless tank is way too fucking much and not worth the risk of exposing your sorry ass to lay down that C4 in the first place.

Meh. I see that shotguns have been massively nerfed, flechette and buckshot having their effective range cut by like 20 meters. ( This almost halves their effective range! ) Might be more balanced but the shotguns now become very gamey shortrange weapons instead of the more realistic shotguns BF4 had. Also smoke now blocks infrared sights. It was a lot of fun to pump a room full of smoke and then move in with an infrared-sighted weapon. It's a shame because I don't think it was too overpowered and it rewarded using tactical gameplay instead of going in guns blazing. In general I think the update might've made the game more competitive and fit for esports, but cut away a lot of the fun tactics ( C4 has also been nerfed, you can't use lock-on launchers from vehicles anymore etc. etc. ) in favour of more focus on balanced but bland gunplay.

Shotguns were sometimes fishy. I could spam an M1014 at what, 40 meters and get a kill.

Shotguns are still wonky. I use primarily a UTS15 now (870 being my main for many years now) and I couldn't kill a guy that was 10 feet away with 3 shots. Then the next death I spawned and shot a guy at full health over 50m away with 1 shot. As I said and many people here agreed, C4 is dead now. Useless. Edit: Also, don't forget to go into your battlelog browser and set your server tickrate to 60+. You can now filter and see tickrate in server description before joining.

I think DICE's point is that C4 the way its be being used isn't the way they intended, it being a sneaky way to take out a tank that doesn't know you're there instead of running headlong at a tank, trying to dodge it's fire and planting C4 on it, especially since this in a lot of cases was more effective than using rockets. Front Line Anti-Armour is the Engi's role.

No, I don't agree with that. The ONE fix they should of done was make sure that active protection could shield you from C4 damage. That would of pleased the elite tank drivers, and made people like me not angry. Now they completely nerfed C4 and made tanks a whole lot stronger versus infantry on tight quarters while trying to capture/defend flags. Edit: And if front line AA work is engineer based, then the engineers should have C4, not support.

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. They want rockets to be the primary way to destroy vehicles while c4 is for destroying buildings and stationary assets.

I honestly think the way to balance C4 versus Tanks is to make it so C4 disables Tanks instead of destroying them or damaging them heavily.

[QUOTE=cheezey;48999922]Meh. I see that shotguns have been massively nerfed, flechette and buckshot having their effective range cut by like 20 meters. ( This almost halves their effective range! ) Might be more balanced but the shotguns now become very gamey shortrange weapons instead of the more realistic shotguns BF4 had. Also smoke now blocks infrared sights. It was a lot of fun to pump a room full of smoke and then move in with an infrared-sighted weapon. It's a shame because I don't think it was too overpowered and it rewarded using tactical gameplay instead of going in guns blazing. In general I think the update might've made the game more competitive and fit for esports, but cut away a lot of the fun tactics ( C4 has also been nerfed, you can't use lock-on launchers from vehicles anymore etc. etc. ) in favour of more focus on balanced but bland gunplay.[/QUOTE] think these two changes were already in place for Hardline. The maps are smaller so I guess it's okay but Shotguns still feel weak and are rarely used, can't imagine how pointless they are in big, wide-open BF4 maps

fucking hell HE ammunition for tanks are ridiculously good now. I'm going 60-2 on zavod with it

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Didn't see the change to the HE shell coming. Interesting.