[QUOTE=ZnT00;39188060]Anybody know the music from the trailer?[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_k-9wztWc0[/media]
the tech noir feel reminds me a bit of this game's artstyle:
[img]http://chaosoverlords.pbworks.com/f/1251620694/chaos_overlords.jpg[/img]
though, the mix of science fiction and humour in this old game is so far very unique.
[QUOTE=BlackRainbow;39188152]Do we know what perspective the game will be played in yet?
"action-RPG" is rather vague.[/QUOTE]
Most likely third person
Well at the very least, I hope it's a PC centric game. Would be a huge shame if it was designed for consoles in mind and then ported to the PC.
[QUOTE=ashxu;39192626]Well at the very least, I hope it's a PC centric game. Would be a huge shame if it was designed for consoles in mind and then ported to the PC.[/QUOTE]
you do know this is CD Projekt Red we're talking about right
PLEASE don't let this get bogged down in uber-grimdark wankery.
[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;39192823]PLEASE don't let this get bogged down in uber-grimdark wankery.[/QUOTE]
Witcher wasn't grimdark at all, it was just very dark.
Grimdark is when it's so overly dark it becomes funny.
[QUOTE=elowin;39192867]Witcher wasn't grimdark at all, it was just very dark.
Grimdark is when it's so overly dark it becomes funny.[/QUOTE]
Never really played any in the Witcher series, the combination of the "I fucked this hot chick" cards and the lack of customisable protagonist turned me off.
[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;39192888]Never really played any in the Witcher series, the combination of the "I fucked this hot chick" cards and the lack of customisable protagonist turned me off.[/QUOTE]
I generally prefer games where I can customize the protagonist as well, but Gerard makes up for it by actually being a really good character unlike nearly every other protagonist in every other RPG ever.
The main turn off to me is the gameplay being incredibly clunky in almost every possible way, atleast in the original, as far as I know they improved that a lot in the sequel but I haven't played that yet.
girl in trailer is hot, I'll give them that (and my money)
[QUOTE=elowin;39192926]I generally prefer games where I can customize the protagonist as well, but Gerard makes up for it by actually being a really good character unlike nearly every other protagonist in every other RPG ever.
The main turn off to me is the gameplay being incredibly clunky in almost every possible way, atleast in the original, as far as I know they improved that a lot in the sequel but I haven't played that yet.[/QUOTE]
The combat and gameplay in Witcher 2 is great once you get used to it.
If this is just close to being as good as Deus Ex I will throw my money at them like there's no tomorrow.
Thoughts on this?
[url]http://www.digitallydownloaded.net/2013/01/cd-projekt-red-trailer-yet-another.html[/url]
[quote]Last year a Hitman game was released with a trailer that was widely derided for a poor (read: offensive) portrayal of the women's role in the games industry.
It was a fair call, too. The games industry is now the most important entertainment industry on the planet, and with that comes a responsibility to be part of the global culture. It's no longer good enough to make games for male pubescents. Just as the film industry has learned that exploitation and sexploitation is generally a bad thing, we all hoped that that Hitman trailer would kick start a maturing of the games industry.
And then CD Projekt Red went and released this trailer for its upcoming game.
Notice the half-naked women positioned in a submissive position as a gang of masculine-looking figures unload a hailstorm of bullets on her? It's hard to miss, that's the entire trailer. No context (other than a token 'this is cyberpunk and she's a robot, so this is totally OK, boys' in the accompanying press release), no characterisation. Nothing more than graituitous slow-motion grindhouse-style sexualised violence.
I can't say I'm surprised with this trailer. CD Projekt Red proved with The Witcher games that it makes some incredible games, with a very juvenile understanding of sex. Women are invariably prizes or vampire-style enemies that are to be as feared as desired in they typical CD Projekt Red game, and this new game seems to be following that tradition in style.
It's a pity, because CD Projekt Red games are incredible. The Witcher 2 is my favourite western-style RPG since the original Baldur's Gate, as cringeworthy as its portrayal of women is. I have no doubt whatsoever that this game will also be incredible.
So why the heck do they feel like they need to prove the critics of the games industry right? At a time when people are looking for excuses to dismiss the games industry as a legitimate art form, why release a trailer that proves to them that this is still a boy's industry tailored for people lacking social skills?[/quote]
Everything that has a woman in a trailer for a video game these days will be criticized for sexism. Just ignore and move on imo.
[QUOTE=Dr Bob;39181413]2015?!
Sheesh.
Hopefully that will mean a super-polished game.[/QUOTE]
This post made me chuckle since devs are Polish :v:
uuuh, submissive position? All I got from the trailer was that she's nutjob cyborg who just killed 10 people with her giant scyth-arms
that's like, the opposite of sex appeal
[QUOTE=Schmaaa;39194416]uuuh, submissive position? All I got from the trailer was that she's nutjob cyborg who just killed 10 people with her giant scyth-arms
that's like, the opposite of sex appeal[/QUOTE]
some people like that
mmm yeah baby, cut me up good
Well, Witcher 2 has a lot of whores in it that you can pay to have sex with. But when it comes to the real female characters they are portrayed pretty well. Triss is in love with Geralt but otherwise she's pretty independent (she does get captured but not many can stand against Letho). Ves, Síle and Philippa are all strong women, too.
[QUOTE=ashxu;39178701]This is gonna be interesting but there aren't very many good cyberpunk games. The only big one I can think of is Deus Ex. Syndicate was terrible.
[editline]11th January 2013[/editline]
E.Y.E Divine Cybermancy was pretty good too but it was low budget and while half the game was amazing, the other half was awful.
Neotokyo had potential but it was let down by lack of support.[/QUOTE]
Correction: Syndicate's campaign was terrible. The co-op was awesome.
[QUOTE=Schmaaa;39194416]uuuh, submissive position? All I got from the trailer was that she's nutjob cyborg who just killed 10 people with her giant scyth-arms[/QUOTE]sexism is in the eye of the beholder
[QUOTE=postmanX3;39194495]Correction: Syndicate's campaign was terrible. The co-op was awesome.[/QUOTE]The mechanics of it was also pretty fucking awesome.
Ironically, the music video of the song used in the trailer and the trailer itself have some things in common.
[video=youtube;V6nbFZtxAL4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6nbFZtxAL4[/video]
Violence and suggestive themes (except that the gender roles are switched)
[QUOTE=Swiket;39194347]Thoughts on this?
[url]http://www.digitallydownloaded.net/2013/01/cd-projekt-red-trailer-yet-another.html[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Notice the half-naked women positioned in a submissive position as a gang of [B]masculine-looking[/B] figures unload a hailstorm of bullets on her?[/QUOTE]
They don't look particularly masculine, they just look like heavy-armoured cops. They could all be women for all we know. It's funny that the writer criticises sexism and yet makes assumptions based on gender stereotypes.
Imo the character is a pretty woman just to contrast with her robot-blade-things and the bloodbath she just caused.
Also for each game that badly portrays women you can find twenty that don't.
[QUOTE=Cucumber in the comments of that one article]Thank you CD Projekt for existing and thank you Eastern Europe for existing. You are the last bastions of a close to "civilized" world where people aren't oversensitive sissies and easily offended.
Please keep making games as you wish without bowing down to these oversensitive spoiled "pseudo politically correct" children that are trying to politicize a medium of entertainment that should NEVER EVER be politicized. Football has been ruined by politics enough, the movie industry has contrary to the words of this article, not bowed down to the control freak traits of radical feminism, the third wave of feminism, control freak nazism.
You may be a poor world Eastern Europe, but that is what makes you mentally sane, it makes you hardened.
Yes, there is sexism that matters in this world, it finds itself in the midst of the Middle East and Africa and India for example. The places where feminism is needed. Sexism in form of women having no opportunities and females being physically harassed.
And then there is "sexism" in the 1st world. I like to call it a part of "1st world problems" because only in the midst of the spoiled, spoon fed and easy going "1st world" can you find individuals who live such a good life that the vastness of their "problems" are reduced to crying about irrelevant, pointless and weak details like this one here, "sexism" in an imaginary world. Or "mommy didn't buy me an iPhone for Christmas, i hate her".
Even the definition of "sexism", as people throw that word so eagerly at every possible whim, is now scrambled and reduced to a buzzword.
Yes, this is the level of silliness of people who label a naked woman in a video game "sexist" and seek sexist interpretations in games.
I bet the women with actual problems in the problematic areas of the world are laughing at this bunch of people crying about supposed "sexism" in imaginary entertainment,
laughing at how insignificant and weak this is. I bet they don't even consider anything like this as "sexist" because of how insignificant it is.
Devs, you have no obligation towards these people or the writer of this article. You have no obligation to pander towards a "wider audience". No.
You should make games the way you love to make them, make the characters and stories the way you love and imagine, this is the definition of entertainment. So it is said and so it should be.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Marden;39194479]Well, Witcher 2 has a lot of whores in it that you can pay to have sex with. But when it comes to the real female characters they are portrayed pretty well. Triss is in love with Geralt but otherwise she's pretty independent (she does get captured but not many can stand against Letho). Ves, Síle and Philippa are all strong women, too.[/QUOTE]
Geralt's banged almost as many girls in two titles than james bond in a series. (Though it's mostly optional)
sexist? dunno. slav macho? probably
edit: also rofl i bet that cucumber dude is one of those men's rights weirdos
this sexism stuff is pretty silly and all that but that Cucumber guy sounds like a men's rights activist
[QUOTE=postmanX3;39194495]Correction: Syndicate's campaign was terrible. The co-op was awesome.[/QUOTE]
yeah, syndicate has some of the best co-op i've ever played (those stunstick guys oh my god)
[QUOTE=Falchion;39195595]Geralt's banged almost as many girls in two titles than james bond in a series. (Though it's mostly optional)[/QUOTE]
Not sure about W1 but in W2 all the sex is optional. But why the hell not. :)
no one says shit like that when there are half-naked men with swords coming out of their arms.
[QUOTE=Schmaaa;39196036]no one says shit like that when there are half-naked men with swords coming out of their arms.[/QUOTE]
Less of a bad history when it comes to Female Gaze.
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