Paradox Interactive Thread: V3 'Check out my sick Germany blob'
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[QUOTE=Irockz;48332695]Why would it be? It's a new IP, so it's not Vicky, meaning it has to be after 1950. EvW was in production when this was, so it's not going to be Cold War, leaving us with only the past 25 years.[/quote]
By during or after the 19th century that's a fairly big area, I mean it could cover the future as well.
[quote]To my recollection - correct me if I'm wrong - Johan said they weren't interested in making a modern political game not too long ago. Meaning that we're either getting a standalone After The End/Crisis Of The Confederation, or a game set before 769. And all that 'technological development' means that technology will be a gameplay feature.[/QUOTE]
I extremely doubt it'll be set before the 8th century, simply because technological development and/or elections were weak or not widespread then (crusader kings struggled to integrate both of those things). It'll either be in the modern era or the future.
It could take place in the future.
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Sci-Fi maybe. they've never done Sci-Fi.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;48332868]By during or after the 19th century that's a fairly big area, I mean it could cover the future as well.
I extremely doubt it'll be set before the 8th century, simply because technological development and/or elections were weak or not widespread then (crusader kings struggled to integrate both of those things). It'll either be in the modern era or the future.[/QUOTE]
Technological development sure as shit occurred in antiquity, perhaps not at the level or pace of later eras, but still.
Also, elections were fucking integral to the functioning of the Roman Republic, so don't be too quick to rule out antiquity yet.
Even if technology developed slowly during antiquity, technological development would be a pretty crucial difference between Rome and the barbarian tribes.
I doubt it's going to be sci-fi or fantasy, so if it's not antiquity it's gotta be WW1.
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Nevermind, it doesn't sound like it's going to be be WW1.
[QUOTE]This is a project we've always dreamt about doing, something all of PI have been involved in, not just the PDS developers.[/QUOTE]
So I guess sci-fi is indeed a possibility?
[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;48337771]Technological development sure as shit occurred in antiquity, perhaps not at the level or pace of later eras, but still.
Also, elections were fucking integral to the functioning of the Roman Republic, so don't be too quick to rule out antiquity yet.[/QUOTE]
I don't feel like the slow technological development of antiquity would translate well to a central gameplay aspect.
[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;48337771]Technological development sure as shit occurred in antiquity, perhaps not at the level or pace of later eras, but still.
Also, elections were fucking integral to the functioning of the Roman Republic, so don't be too quick to rule out antiquity yet.[/QUOTE]
They were integral to the Roman Republic, but not really elsewhere. Not to mention that although technological development happened in antiquity, it was nowhere near the scale of the modern era.
The fact they mention both together rules out any setting prior to the modern era.
I'm most likely thinking that it's a game set in the future, potentially in space.
Is it wrong to say that I'm not excited anymore? I'm not annoyed at them for making a space game, but Im interested in history based games.
[quote]This is a project we've always dreamt about doing, something all of PI have been involved in, not just the PDS developers.[/quote]
More and more I'm feeling it's not going to be history related.
Paradox has stated that they will never do modern times. EvW has already died.
I'm gonna bet it's a sci-fi setting in the near-to-far future.
If it [I]is[/I] actually taking place in antiquity, I'll post a picture of me with hotdogs in my nostrils.
What is your definition of antiquity?
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[QUOTE=Trebgarta;48338509]Sandbox in Clausewitz, birth of civilization
No Tag-Limited countrylist, found your own civilization, rise up all the way to antiquity
Though they have to come up with very interesting and addicting peace time development stuff, maybe that wouldn't really work well with clausewitz after all. But I wanna see some pre-dark age era stuff, wheteher it be roman, greek, babylon or goddamn cavemen
Or fantasy/sci-fi, but again, they have to have some interesting mechanics. Paradox should "invent" new stuff by this point, and I'll be pretty damn happy if they can come up with an awesome, unique idea.[/QUOTE]
That could be neat.
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I'm going to be away for the internet all next week, so I'll miss the announcement
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48338956]More and more I'm feeling it's not going to be history related.
Paradox has stated that they will never do modern times. EvW has already died.
I'm gonna bet it's a sci-fi setting in the near-to-far future.
If it [I]is[/I] actually taking place in antiquity, I'll post a picture of me with hotdogs in my nostrils.[/QUOTE]
requesting toxx on this
[QUOTE=Tuskin;48338990]What is your definition of antiquity?[/QUOTE]
Roman Republic (509 BC) to Division of Rome (395 AD) [which delves into the realm of 'Late Antiquity' or 'Early Middle Ages' and people get into fistfights]
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[QUOTE=Hamsteronfire;48339099]requesting toxx on this[/QUOTE]
It's on m80 but ill letcha know
No weiners are going near my face anytime soon
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Alright well it turns out that during an AngryJoe interview back in Feb., PI spokesdudes talked about Paradox's "dream" of having a single game that went from Roman Republic up to 1945.
Obviously I'll take that with Lot's Wife but it may influence what this game is
That would require a lot of different mechanics, and very ambitious.
It would be nice, but I can't see it being that unless it was simpler then there other games.
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Also remember how PI said they won't announce games now until they're actually true alpha (or maybe it was Beta) so hopefully it won't be delayed like crazy like HOI4.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48339115]Roman Republic (509 BC) to Division of Rome (395 AD) [which delves into the realm of 'Late Antiquity' or 'Early Middle Ages' and people get into fistfights]
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ITS EARLY MIDDLE AGES! ILL KILL YOU!
about a month ago PI filed for a trademark on "Stellaris"
[url]https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/014306054[/url]
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From the forums
"PI have filed a couple of trademarks that don't correrspond to current games. Two of them, Stellaris (filed 30th of june 2015), and Coriolis, fits a space game. Coriolis is a book set in space published by PI."
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Though they also said in one of the hints that 'Terrain matters'
Which wouldn't make much sense in a space game unless you can fight on planets.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;48341290]about a month ago PI filed for a trademark on "Stellaris"
[url]https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/014306054[/url]
[editline]31st July 2015[/editline]
From the forums
"PI have filed a couple of trademarks that don't correrspond to current games. Two of them, Stellaris (filed 30th of june 2015), and Coriolis, fits a space game. Coriolis is a book set in space published by PI."
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Though they also said in one of the hints that 'Terrain matters'
Which wouldn't make much sense in a space game unless you can fight on planets.[/QUOTE]
What kind of game would it be if you couldn't fight on planets?
Well I was thinking the planets would just be things you could capture, because I'm not sure how it would work in Real time.
Unless it is going to be a turn based game.
Space has terrain too in that you would have to avoid asteroids, stellar clouds, supernovae, etc
It would be -very- important too if they would go for a realistic space colonization game or something since spaceships are pretty damn fragile
Or what about 1918-1936? There was a lot of technological advance in that time frame plus it meant the fall of most monarchies and absolutist regimes in Europe.
I mean, Paradox has different IP's set inside the same timeframes. March of the Eagles is set inside a time frame that is also included in Europa Universalis.
It could be space, but the "elections" aspect doesn't make me buy that. If it had only said "technological innovation" then I'm all in for space.
Elections. That has to do with democracies, republics, factions, parties. You know. Vic 2 stuff.
They never tried to faithfully recreate WW1 warfare and well, the party systems they have made so far are quite...simplistic and lacking in many features.
[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;48342417]Or what about 1918-1936? There was a lot of technological advance in that time frame plus it meant the fall of most monarchies and absolutist regimes in Europe.
I mean, Paradox has different IP's set inside the same timeframes. March of the Eagles is set inside a time frame that is also included in Europa Universalis.
It could be space, but the "elections" aspect doesn't make me buy that. If it had only said "technological innovation" then I'm all in for space.
Elections. That has to do with democracies, republics, factions, parties. You know. Vic 2 stuff.
They never tried to faithfully recreate WW1 warfare and well, the party systems they have made so far are quite...simplistic and lacking in many features.[/QUOTE]
Don't you mean like 1914-1936, or maybe even earlier? I really doubt they'd make a game entirely based on the interwar period.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;48342520]Don't you mean like 1914-1936, or maybe even earlier? I really doubt they'd make a game entirely based on the interwar period.[/QUOTE]
At first I wrote 1914, but, IDK, like, 1918 makes elections, revolutions and internal politics more important right off the bat.
But, yes, 1914 would be awesome.
Man, at this point, they should just buy the Kaiserreich mod, and make it a whole game, from 1918 to 1945.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48339115]Roman Republic (509 BC) to Division of Rome (395 AD) [which delves into the realm of 'Late Antiquity' or 'Early Middle Ages' and people get into fistfights][/QUOTE]
I just realised, if we had an antiquity game, would there have to be a 509 BCE bookmark (Roman Republic) and 508 BCE (Foundation of democratic Athens)
[QUOTE=Kljunas;48342520]Don't you mean like 1914-1936, or maybe even earlier? I really doubt they'd make a game entirely based on the interwar period.[/QUOTE]
Man I really want a game based on the Chinese warlord period, its so damn fascinating
When actually will the new IP announcement be?
[QUOTE=CapLaPorte;48347135]When actually will the new IP announcement be?[/QUOTE]
Gamescom
oooof better get those weiners ready to stuff zilla
:cool: :cool: :cool:
[QUOTE=Hamsteronfire;48347250]oooof better get those weiners ready to stuff zilla
:cool: :cool: :cool:[/QUOTE]
tellin ya m80 it only applies if the game takes place in antiquity
if it's antique spaceships it aint gon' count
What the fuck is up with personal combat skill, it doesn't even seem to matter. I'm a master swordsman, duelist and brilliant commander with 16 combat skill yet I will lose to a guy with 1 that is 60 years old.
dafuq?
[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;48355630]What the fuck is up with personal combat skill, it doesn't even seem to matter. I'm a master swordsman, duelist and brilliant commander with 16 combat skill yet I will lose to a guy with 1 that is 60 years old.
dafuq?[/QUOTE]
Personal combat skill and martial have been irrelevant for the most part since The Old Gods.
[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;48355630]What the fuck is up with personal combat skill, it doesn't even seem to matter. I'm a master swordsman, duelist and brilliant commander with 16 combat skill yet I will lose to a guy with 1 that is 60 years old.
dafuq?[/QUOTE]
I also don't get what personal combat skill is for if battling with someone on the battle field is dependent on a game of rock paper scissors
