Paradox Interactive Thread: V3 'Check out my sick Germany blob' - Games

[QUOTE=Pezgod1;48944640]Mimicking the Magyars is fun.[/QUOTE] For some reason why I nerf myself and want to settle somewhere it's always the Carpathian Basin, or Poland. Carpathian Basin is best basin doe. [thumb]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/643246304994125126/B75ACC80F9CD31E087CE077FEF4EEA6CA7190C9F/[/thumb]

[QUOTE=Tuskin;48966911] where did you hear that?[/QUOTE] Wiz tweeted it [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CR2w0P5UwAAuViH.png:large[/t]

Oh neat. That is handy. Quill18 is doing a USA run now as America. I think he should do a game as lower power. Maybe as a Canada, he is Canadian.

Or Italy. Nobody does Italy.

I just witnessed Austria become a junior partner of a personal union under Hungary of all people. This game and its poetic twists of fate

[QUOTE=Black;48967239]For some reason why I nerf myself and want to settle somewhere it's always the Carpathian Basin, or Poland. Carpathian Basin is best basin doe. [thumb]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/643246304994125126/B75ACC80F9CD31E087CE077FEF4EEA6CA7190C9F/[/thumb][/QUOTE] I'm not sure if it's just me but it looks like your camera is slightly tilted

You can form the 'Unholy' Alliance in HOI4 [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sy5ulzD.png[/IMG] [quote]Well, if Germany & Soviets sign the Unholy Alliance, the original Axis is dismantled, and all democractic & fascist states gets very upset about them. So you'll most likely end up with USA, UK, France, Italy & Japan on one side, and Germany & Soviet on the other.,[/quote]

[t]http://imgkk.com/i/i_ha.png[/t] Weirdest HPP game I've had yet. Germany forcibly invaded Austria, Italy got pissed and Yugoslavia joined them. Then Bulgaria and Hungary jumped in to help Germany.

[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;48973203][t]http://imgkk.com/i/i_ha.png[/t] Weirdest HPP game I've had yet. Germany forcibly invaded Austria, Italy got pissed and Yugoslavia joined them. Then Bulgaria and Hungary jumped in to help Germany.[/QUOTE] Historically I believe Mussolini initially opposed Germany taking over Austria, which could have led to war between them.

[QUOTE=cis.joshb;48973988]Historically I believe Mussolini initially opposed Germany taking over Austria, which could have led to war between them.[/QUOTE] This would be correct. They were the strongest voices against Anschluss when it happened. In fact, the only reason it didn't happen in 1934 like Hitler had attempted was [i]because[/i] Italy told them to fuck off.

Yeah, HPP has an increased chance of Italy opposing the anschluss of Austria. One time, Germany ended up having such a huge threat, it negated the neutrality of the Allies and they attacked Germany while Hitler was still bungling around in Italy.

Yeah, HPP is my goto mod. It's not railroaded at all, one of the things that I'm hoping HOI4 does good is alt-history stuff. Games gotten pretty interesting, remaking the Ottoman empire right now. Poland still stands, there's a stalemate in the lowlands since Germany was busy on two other fronts and the allies reinforced it. [t]http://imgkk.com/i/e2gt.png[/t] [editline]24th October 2015[/editline] well, i lost. rip my country [t]http://imgkk.com/i/rfhx.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;48975380][t]http://imgkk.com/i/rfhx.png[/t][/QUOTE] Stand and fight, for the Turkey way.

Does anyone know any good scenario editors for CK2? there's a scenario editor on the forums, but it hasn't been updated since May and its creator is unresponsive on the forums.

I'm purposely playing as bad as possible [t]http://i.imgur.com/U4rQ9CW.png[/t] [editline]25th October 2015[/editline] Also don't ask about that piece of New England in Minnesota, for some reason they had a core on it. Might be a bug with the HPP mod. [editline]25th October 2015[/editline] The Civil War happened an immediately ended, either because they are so much bigger then me, or because I was a puppet of the UK [t]http://i.imgur.com/h2A8bXi.png[/t]

Stellaris dd [URL]https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-6-rulers-and-leaders.888500/[/URL] [editline]26th October 2015[/editline] Paradox got 40x more applications then they expected for HOI4. They say it is their most popular beta yet [editline]26th October 2015[/editline] Sign ups were meant to end this Friday, but they closed them the day they opened them

[QUOTE=Tuskin;48987162]Stellaris dd [URL]https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-6-rulers-and-leaders.888500/[/URL] [editline]26th October 2015[/editline] Paradox got 40x more applications then they expected for HOI4. They say it is their most popular beta yet[/QUOTE][quote] First off, this game is not character based like Crusader Kings, so do not expect a complex web of rivalries and friendships to develop between rulers and leaders with dynamic portraits and genetics. In Stellaris, the real stars of the show are the Pops, with characters acting more like the advisors, generals and admirals in Europa Universalis (though they do have certain personality traits that can affect what options they get in scripted events, for example.) With that out of the way, let's examine the different types of characters:[/quote] That really sucks, I hope POPs are basically along the lines of VIC2's though

[URL]https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/norway-screenies-3.888345/[/URL] Bunch of new HOI4 screens, mostly Norway. Also there is a chance of Amelia Ernhart not vanishing. [editline]26th October 2015[/editline] Bloodless Coups are possible.

Holy crap Paradox is becoming the last bastion of extremely detailed and complex strategy games. Elsewhere (not including indies), games are being dumbed down. Long live paradox! I hope HOI IV can be easily modded. It would be so cool to play Kaiserreich with that engine. Damn it, how come paradox hasn't bought or released a Kaiserreich game? With all the events, different outcomes and so many paths one can take, that merits a game on its own.

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;48988420]Holy crap Paradox is becoming the last bastion of extremely detailed and complex strategy games. Elsewhere (not including indies), games are being dumbed down. Long live paradox! I hope HOI IV can be easily modded. It would be so cool to play Kaiserreich with that engine. Damn it, how come paradox hasn't bought or released a Kaiserreich game? With all the events, different outcomes and so many paths one can take, that merits a game on its own.[/QUOTE] Paradox is notorious for dumbing down their recent games to appeal to a broader audience. Grand Strategy and Wargames are a very niche market so there isn't a lot of companies that put them out. Matrix Games publishes some pretty good wargames that have enough depth to make the average HoI player's head spin.

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;48990197]Slight problem is most alternatives look like they were released 10 years ago, together with horrible resolution settings at times.[/QUOTE] There is only so much you can do visually with a "military map" theme and you're unlikely to see things like sprites because the games are geared towards giving you information, not looking nice. The UIs on some of the older ones tend to be inaccessible at best admittedly.

Paradox's new office. Looks nice. [url]http://imgur.com/a/sHEPd[/url]

[QUOTE=Anderan;48989889]Paradox is notorious for dumbing down their recent games to appeal to a broader audience. [/QUOTE] And those games are far better games. Compare current CK2 to CK1 or current EU4 to EU3:DW, no one would say the latter games are better made or polished, despite being far more complex.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;48994829]And those games are far better games. Compare current CK2 to CK1 or current EU4 to EU3:DW, no one would say the latter games are better made or polished, despite being far more complex.[/QUOTE] Except there are scores of people that prefer EU3 over EU4, especially when it first launched. CK1 and Ck2 are harder to compare since CK1 was release so long ago and to a much smaller fanbase. It wasn't until they started releasing dlc and adding back some of depth that the opinion really started to shift. Baring the paradox forums on this of course, since everyone there either loves everything Paradox does or holds them in utter contempt.

[QUOTE=Anderan;48994846]Except there are scores of people that prefer EU3 over EU4, especially when it first launched. CK1 and Ck2 are harder to compare since CK1 was release so long ago and to a much smaller fanbase. It wasn't until they started releasing dlc and adding back some of depth that the opinion really started to shift. Baring the paradox forums on this of course, since everyone there either loves everything Paradox does or holds them in utter contempt.[/QUOTE] How the hell can anyone prefer EU3 over EU4? EU4 has much better mechanics and is rapidly improving with every DLC. EU3 is ugly as shit and has stupid sliders. You can't set up colonial nations/trade companies. Can't set up and customize client states. Can't have much better vassal interactions. Has dumb 1 way relations. Has infamy. Has no fun historical events which gives nations flavor. Has absolutely terrible MP. I could go on all day about how much better EU4 currently is, I haven't even touched on half the improvements or what the Cossacks DLC is about to bring. It's simply fear mongering old guard guys who believe the casuals are out to get them. Also many of those features mentioned aren't even exclusive to expansions. If you only had base EU III and wanted some lovely new stuff, shit out of luck son you need to pay up.

EU3 is better in some ways. Many of the points you name are subjective. I personally find colonial nations boring because they make the colonial game feel so unpersonal. EU3 looks better then EU4 IMO because I prefer the map style instead of going for a terrain(Running EU4 on a flat terrain mod). It is all about taste, personally I prefer the infamy system and historical events can be annoying(like the burgundian inheritence, railroads the game). And EU4 has tons of features, hell even features that are almost basically needed, locked behind the DLC paywalls(but the AI gets access to the majority of them). It is all about personal preference. I for example will not be buying HOI4 because the direction that game is going in turns me off in so many ways(from what I could see much less provinces, the map looks ugly as fuck, the whole favors thing). BUT that doesn't mean HOI4 doesn't have good points or at least points that I can see some people liking.

[QUOTE=Valiantttt;48995032] And EU4 has tons of features, hell even features that are almost basically needed, locked behind the DLC paywalls(but the AI gets access to the majority of them). [/QUOTE] But they still give tons of features for free. In EU3 if you even wanted patches after each expansion you'll need to buy the expansions. Also if you know someone who has all the DLCs you can play with him and get everything to play with in that session, unlike EU3 where you need all the DLC he needs to even play together.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;48995118]But they still give tons of features for free. In EU3 if you even wanted patches after each expansion you'll need to buy the expansions. Also if you know someone who has all the DLCs you can play with him and get everything to play with in that session, unlike EU3 where you need all the DLC he needs to even play together.[/QUOTE] I explicitly mentioned most people preferring 3 over 4 was at release and has shifted a bit with DLC release, since EU4 was garbage at release and is still garbage without any of the DLC adding features it very much was lacking. The culture conversion system was/is stupid, aggressive expansion is a minimal improvement over infamy, the original monarch point system was an interesting idea but horribly implemented, and the trade system is mediocre and still just as exploitable as it was in 3. Then there's the whole thing with the patch for common sense that still adds development to the game but you can't actually do anything with it unless you own the DLC.

Majority of Europa Universalis players never play multiplayer though. I did it once in EU3 and it was just too boring for me

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;48994829]And those games are far better games. Compare current CK2 to CK1 or current EU4 to EU3:DW, no one would say the latter games are better made or polished, despite being far more complex.[/QUOTE] Is EU3 even really "far more complex" than EU4? I mean EU4 does have a lot of mechanics that weren't in EU3.