Paradox Interactive Thread: V3 'Check out my sick Germany blob' - Games

Gotta love it when a minor nation rolls a 3 star general and then proceeds to roll only 9's and nothing else.

"France is guaranteeing the independence of England" [IMG]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/096/213/737.gif[/IMG] [editline]11th April 2016[/editline] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0cUo1Cn.png[/IMG] Jesus fucken chroist

Seems like the Bretons are back in Britannia.

[QUOTE=EuSKalduna;50111734]"France is guaranteeing the independence of England" [IMG]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/096/213/737.gif[/IMG] [editline]11th April 2016[/editline] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0cUo1Cn.png[/IMG] Jesus fucken chroist[/QUOTE] I think this was the 2nd game I played in EUIV. [t]http://puu.sh/oeqAf/b6874d6347.jpg[/t]

I sure do love the time when Finns were considered Nordic. Or when Slovaks, Hungarians and Romanians were culturally similar. Or how Ugrians were actually just Russians in disguise. I mean, haha, wow never really read about that in my history books, but I'm sure paradox is just 110% right on that mark! /s

So hows this for a first time playing any paradox interactive game? [t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/456362427307857560/154052FEBF7E4543CE3E91B6E3B86CA1D8EEFC49/[/t] (Not pictured, Hawaii, Alaska, Senegal)

I'm still pissed off bout the fact that Paradox thinks that Turkish culture is closer to the Arabian than the Azerbaijani.

[QUOTE=AhoyMate;50113779]I'm still pissed off bout the fact that Paradox thinks that Turkish culture is closer to the Arabian than the Azerbaijani.[/QUOTE] Jesus man, what were you thinking with those borders? Why take Manitoba like that? I would have gone for British Columbia for a land route to Alaska.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;50113826]Jesus man, what were you thinking with those borders? Why take Manitoba like that? I would have gone for British Columbia for a land route to Alaska.[/QUOTE] I tried to annex more then that but Britain didn't give into all of my demands.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50113517]I sure do love the time when Finns were considered Nordic. [B]Or when Slovaks, Hungarians and Romanians were culturally similar[/B]. Or how Ugrians were actually just Russians in disguise. I mean, haha, wow never really read about that in my history books, but I'm sure paradox is just 110% right on that mark! /s[/QUOTE] I mean, I study ethnology, and of course neighboring nationalities have cultural exchange and resulting overlaps and similarities but [B][I]COME ON[/I][/B]

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50113517]I sure do love the time when Finns were considered Nordic. Or when Slovaks, Hungarians and Romanians were culturally similar. Or how Ugrians were actually just Russians in disguise. I mean, haha, wow never really read about that in my history books, but I'm sure paradox is just 110% right on that mark! /s[/QUOTE] Man you're getting really worked up over these mistakes that have no effect on gameplay.

[QUOTE=Broguts;50113971]Man you're getting really worked up over these mistakes that have no effect on gameplay.[/QUOTE] The cultural ties with the rest of the arabian world means that conquering the place is a cake walk, and you get no unaccepted culture malus

I have all the EU4 expansions up to and including El Dorado. Which of the remaining ones are worth buying?

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;50114512]I have all the EU4 expansions up to and including El Dorado. Which of the remaining ones are worth buying?[/QUOTE]pretty much all of them though mare nostrum is probably debatable

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;50114512]I have all the EU4 expansions up to and including El Dorado. Which of the remaining ones are worth buying?[/QUOTE] It's hard to determine which ones are worth buying since they're all still pretty expensive for whatever threadbare content they add to the game, but Mare Nostrum is definitely the most lackluster thus far imo. If you really want to add something to your game just get Common Sense for the extra vassal options and ability to develop provinces. I can't really recommend Cossacks since I don't own that yet, waiting on the inevitable sales.

[QUOTE=Broguts;50113971]Man you're getting really worked up over these mistakes that have no effect on gameplay.[/QUOTE] No, I'm getting worked up over design choices that make no fucking sense. The Ottomans can now roflstomp the Levant as they share some supposed cultural ties, as can Romania just blob its way into Hungary with minimal cultural impact. It's fucking streamlining for absolutely retarded reasoning because Paradox has no clue what made their games popular. It's needless changes that make the game so inaccurate that it detracts from any immersion. Unless, of course, they release the $15 "Culture Fix" DLC :^)

[QUOTE=Broguts;50113971]Man you're getting really worked up over these mistakes that have no effect on gameplay.[/QUOTE] How can one not understand the impact culture groups have on gameplay after 240 hours of EUIV.

Also, tell me how the [I]fuck[/I] these sound similar: mennesker (Danish) mennesker (Norwegian) personer (Swedish) ihmiset (Finnish) Just basic fucking things like this, and putting them all in the same culture group is asinine

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50115737]Also, tell me how the [I]fuck[/I] these sound similar: mennesker (Danish) mennesker (Norwegian) personer (Swedish) ihmiset (Finnish) Just basic fucking things like this, and putting them all in the same culture group is asinine[/QUOTE] however, it makes it easier to conquer Sweden as the finns and impose on the swedes the genocide they rightfully deserve

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50117727]however, it makes it easier to conquer Sweden as the finns and impose on the swedes the genocide they rightfully deserve[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;50092821]I feel like a bit of a weeaboo for finland[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50117727]however, it makes it easier to conquer Sweden as the finns and impose on the swedes the genocide they rightfully deserve[/QUOTE] Fuck yeah, youre speaking my language Force the swedes to take pictures of bridges for all eternity

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50115737]Also, tell me how the [I]fuck[/I] these sound similar: mennesker (Danish) mennesker (Norwegian) personer (Swedish) ihmiset (Finnish) Just basic fucking things like this, and putting them all in the same culture group is asinine[/QUOTE] I'm going to go ahead and correct you a bit here. I'm not going to comment on Finnish because it is indeed a completely different language, although language ≠ culture. In Danish and Norwegian you used the word "Humans" but in Swedish you used "People". People in all three of those would be "personer" and humans would be "mennesker" in Norwegian and Danish and "människor" in Swedish. "Mennesker" might be a synonym for people in Danish and Norwegian though. You also mentioned Finland isn't Nordic, which it is. The only somewhat reasonable complaint is Finland, which I would argue is culturally close to the other Nordic countries (at least today, I'm not too educated in regards to Finnish culture in 1444). To this day there is still a large Swedish speaking minority in Finland which is why they still teach Swedish in Finnish schools and they often have labels in both Swedish and Finnish. I'm also pretty sure a large part of the local nobles would consist of that minority considering Sweden held Finland for so long, which would make them more accepting of Swedish culture. What I'm trying to say is you shouldn't have such strong opinions on things you don't know anything about. I don't know the validity of your other cultural complaints but considering how wrong you were on this I wouldn't be surprised if those were wrong as well. From a gameplay perspective though it might be something worth looking over.

[QUOTE=SappinMyNick;50117913]you shouldn't have such strong opinions on things you don't know anything about[/QUOTE] Oh my god :v: The game is trying to make it so Finns are Nordic. Ugrians and Karelians are a Russian sub-culture. That Estonians are their own little Baltic enclave. The game used to have it so those groups were common and related, which is [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Ugric_languages]What they are[/url] But no surely "I don't know anything about this"

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50115737]Also, tell me how the [I]fuck[/I] these sound similar: mennesker (Danish) mennesker (Norwegian) personer (Swedish) ihmiset (Finnish) Just basic fucking things like this, and putting them all in the same culture group is asinine[/QUOTE] I don't think culture should be based solely upon linguistic classifications though. Basque used to be its own culture group and that was dumb. But yeah the current groups are really arbitrary.

Or how Magyar, an Ugraic language, is similar to Romanian, a Romance language, which is similar to Slovak, a Slavic language. But no their languages are 110% the same because they are "Carpathian"!!!

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50117942]Oh my god :v: The game is trying to make it so Finns are Nordic. Ugrians and Karelians are a Russian sub-culture. That Estonians are their own little Baltic enclave. The game used to have it so those groups were common and related, which is [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Ugric_languages]What they are[/url] But no surely "I don't know anything about this"[/QUOTE] So are we going to make Hungarian and Finnish culture be in the same group?

1) Merge 2) Language is a massive base for the distinction between cultures [editline]12th April 2016[/editline] Oh my [I]fucking god[/I] [editline]12th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=EuSKalduna;50117951]So are we going to make Hungarian and Finnish culture be in the same group?[/QUOTE] Yes [editline]12th April 2016[/editline] pls stop breaking my merges ty

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50117942]Oh my god :v: The game is trying to make it so Finns are Nordic. Ugrians and Karelians are a Russian sub-culture. That Estonians are their own little Baltic enclave. The game used to have it so those groups were common and related, which is [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Ugric_languages]What they are[/url] But no surely "I don't know anything about this"[/QUOTE] But Finland is Nordic? And Finland does indeed have close cultural ties to the other Nordic countries. The fact that you said it was asinine to have Sweden, Norway and Denmark in the same culture group because of incorrect linguistical differences tells me that you have no idea what you're talking about. I will not comment on other cultural groups as I have next to no knowledge about them.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50117953]Yes[/QUOTE] That's a terrible idea. It would be like putting Iberian cultures in the same group as Romanian, or Latvian with Croatian.

They are based into culture groups, not just language. Might as well go the extra mile and make Italian, French, and Spanish cultures in the same group because they are all Romance :downs: [editline]12th April 2016[/editline] As a moment of solidarity however, let's all agree that "Levantine" is fucking retarded and Gothic culture deserves to die