Overwatch - The world needs heroes, and Blizzard needs a TF2 game! - Games

[QUOTE=CrossNgen;49062770]Let me explain it like this: This game heavily relies on hero counters, lets say you get into the game, you're new, and you have around 4-5 heroes available to you based on a weekly rotation or something. you join a match, but what's this? Your teammates are also new players with the same hero pool as yours,but the enemy team consists of 6 players with a full roster of characters, characers with heavy defense values, and you and your teammates have no heroes that can counter the enemies' heroes Do you now see the issue?[/QUOTE] Adding to this, team composition is critically important. In tf2 it's only mildly important. I imagine as "official" teams and what not start forming since they want to tackle e-sports, Zarya's ult will be extremely meta.

[QUOTE=Qaus;49062810]No because that issue never expressed itself. There's never been any indication that the 21 existing heroes are on rotation or that you'd have only a limited number of heroes to begin with while the others are locked away through some means. And talking about "countering" like this is a game of rock paper scissors or something, it's actually an fps? try landing your shots dodging theirs instead of giving up because they picked a tanky character???[/QUOTE] kinda like you counter push-heavy team comps in TF2 with defensive classes like the engineer, in overwatch you're gonna get stuff like teams made up of heroes with hard to hit but impactful skills which will get countered by heavily mobile heroes. which will get countered by heroes with disables. which might get countered by shields or tanky heroes with disables of their own now imagine TF2 has free week rotations and paid classes, and this week you only have the spy and sniper available yet keep getting matched with teams full of heavies and pyros

[QUOTE=Damjen;49062864]Blizzcon starts in (roughly) 40 minutes. You can watch it here: [url]http://www.twitch.tv/team/blizzcon[/url][/QUOTE] There is some shit happening already. Are you ready for hours of stuff we don't care about? I suggest HotS twitch, 6 times less people watching it. [editline]6th November 2015[/editline] They might be giving out beta access to people who have Blizzcon ticket.

Coincidentally i watched one of the top TF2 players who was streaming he did say himself that you cant carry a game as a solo player the same way you can in TF2 because it relies so much on team comp and ultimate coordination. Which of the blizzcon streams are you guys watching, are they all the same?

Overwatch is in ~6 hours [editline]6th November 2015[/editline] They will probably announce Overwatch's release date at the main event though.

to be honest, tf2 relies more on raw deatmatch skills meanwhile ow is more about team composition

[URL="http://www.amazon.de/Activision-Blizzard-Deutschland-Overwatch-Collectors/dp/B017KHBTP0/ref=lp_5123319031_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1446835291&sr=1-2"]Overwatch's CE: [/URL]Origin's Edition Statue of Soldier 76 Steelbook Case Artbook Soundtrack

[QUOTE=Damjen;49063075][URL="http://www.amazon.de/Activision-Blizzard-Deutschland-Overwatch-Collectors/dp/B017KHBTP0/ref=lp_5123319031_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1446835291&sr=1-2"]Overwatch's CE: [/URL]Origin's Edition Statue of Soldier 76 Steelbook Case Artbook Soundtrack[/QUOTE] Surprised they went with 76 as opposed to Widow or Tracer. Also laying down my final prediction before announcement: F2P with rotation $30 one time gets you every starting hero Heroes are added in groups of 4-5 via $10-$15 expansions plus skins/sprays $60 origins gets you a bunch of skins/sprays and beta access as well as default Can't buy individual heroes

[QUOTE=Damjen;49063075][URL="http://www.amazon.de/Activision-Blizzard-Deutschland-Overwatch-Collectors/dp/B017KHBTP0/ref=lp_5123319031_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1446835291&sr=1-2"]Overwatch's CE: [/URL]Origin's Edition Statue of Soldier 76 Steelbook Case Artbook Soundtrack[/QUOTE] Why did they use the most generic character as the statue?

Soldier 76? What the fuck Why not Pharah? Why not Mercy, or Hanzo or Reaper or Widowmaker or even Tracer, since she's on the cover?

[QUOTE=Roxerg;49063106]Why did they use the most generic character as the statue?[/QUOTE] In the lore i think he was the leader, but tracer or widowmaker would have sold sooo much more sense. My optimistic predictions $60 beta buy in with a couple skin unlocks skins $10 to $15 each $150-200 collectors edition with statue, steelbook case and some other stuff like poster, artbook , soundtrack, steel overwatch logo Guna say buy in for beta starts january or later

I think Tracer is overrated. But I don't think Soldier 76 should be the statue.

[QUOTE=Ax3l;49063225]I think Tracer is overrated. But I don't think Soldier 76 should be the statue.[/QUOTE] D.va statue, pls blizz

Wait till you see the statue. It might be more than just Soldier 76

Im looking forward to all the overwatch cosplays in the contest, if someone pulls off Reinhardt armour ill explode

[url]https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/overwatch[/url] Ooops

Did anyone notice how they've activated buyoverwatch.com and made it redirect to [URL]http://eu.battle.net/overwatch/en/buy/[/URL] like an hour ago? I wonder if the 'Founder packs' or whatever are coming out earlier than we might think UPD: And it's up, holy shit that pricetag

[QUOTE=Damjen;49063271][url]https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/overwatch[/url] Ooops[/QUOTE] Uh oh

[QUOTE=Damjen;49063271][url]https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/overwatch[/url] Ooops[/QUOTE] 40 dollars? aint that bad

Holy shit, Reaper's face.

[QUOTE=mickers;49063254]Im looking forward to all the overwatch cosplays in the contest, if someone pulls off Reinhardt armour ill explode[/QUOTE] You'd never get the proportions right because they're totally inhuman. It's why most warhammer 40k space marine cosplays look off.

at £45 it better have an ingame currency like HoTs that allows you to unlock a "master skin" for each character and skins better not be more than $10

40 dollars is much more acceptable than 60. I still don't think it's a good business decision, but I think I'll fork over the doe.

[QUOTE=usaokay;49063293][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXUkAQyzb6g[/media][/QUOTE] Reaper has a face? 0/10

aaaand nevermind

i'm sorry but i can't imagine blackwatch reyes spouting reaper's quotes

And, we get a good look on all the new heroes there

[QUOTE=mickers;49063316]at £45 it better have an ingame currency like HoTs that allows you to unlock a "master skin" for each character and skins better not be more than $10[/QUOTE] £45 is for the Origins edition- base seems to cost £30: [URL="https://eu.battle.net/shop/en/product/overwatch"]https://eu.battle.net/shop/en/product/overwatch [/URL]I thought £20-25 would be ideal, so this is okay.[URL="https://eu.battle.net/shop/en/product/overwatch"] [/URL]

[QUOTE=usaokay;49063293][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXUkAQyzb6g[/media][/QUOTE] Was KINDA hoping they'd keep Reaper's identity ambiguous even if we already had a hunch who he was.

I hope that those skins are indicative of future skins. I know it won't happen, but I want nothing but lore friendly cosmetics. No stupid shit like MOBA skins or most TF2 hats.