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[QUOTE=goluffy;49099145]I gotta say, out of every character I've seen, I can't wait to get my hands on Jet Set Lucio [/QUOTE] Oh man after seeing this video I want to play the game more than ever now. I feel like I would do well with his playstyle.

[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;49099932]Besides Mei being his waifu, what's the reasons?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Qaus;49100142]Care explaining? [editline]11th November 2015[/editline] are there even memes related to overwatch yet[/QUOTE] He just randomly said he wasn't going to play Lucio for no reason other than he wanted to pick a random Hero to never play. Suffice to say its a dumb joke and has become a "meme" in his chat.

[QUOTE=ClauAmericano;49099948]Star also says D'Va is bad. That's when I stopped watching his stream.[/QUOTE] he's not wrong: she suffers from baby damage, limited movement and huge critboxes that makes her a moving target tho his shield looks super strong

[QUOTE=Destroyox;49100806]He just randomly said he wasn't going to play Lucio for no reason other than he wanted to pick a random Hero to never play. Suffice to say its a dumb joke and has become a "meme" in his chat.[/QUOTE] From what I can tell, the only reason why he doesn't want to play Lúcio, is because it's Jerma's fav character in Overwatch. Also, about D.va, she seems to die very fast in her mec suit, which confused me at first until someone came up with a good point: her head hitbox is in the middle of her body in the mec (aka how can you not hit it?)...

He decided to never play Lucio before Jerma ever got a chance to play him if I recall right. Jerma's just trying to convince him that Lucio is a really fucking cool character. (Which he is)

[QUOTE=Zannabluke;49101001]he's not wrong: she suffers from baby damage, limited movement and huge critboxes that makes her a moving target tho his shield looks super strong[/QUOTE] everything dva does, tracer does better.

[QUOTE=Zannabluke;49101001]he's not wrong: she suffers from baby damage, limited movement and huge critboxes that makes her a moving target tho [b]his[/b] shield looks super strong[/QUOTE] Did you just call a tiny japanese/south korean woman he? :v:

Looking at her kit, I think she's suppose to be one of the best target for heals (Mercy / Zen) since majority of her health is armor which soaks up a lot of automatic fire. When comparing with other Tanks who sometimes don't benefit too much from heal: - Reinhardt tanks with his shield - Roadhog can self heal - Wiston uses his bubble shield - Zarya uses shield as well I guess she uses her presence to "taunt" and tank damage? Instead of others who either rely on utility, dps or creating chaos in close quarters. Other than that I suppose she can roam with a pocket.

[QUOTE=Destroyox;49100806]He just randomly said he wasn't going to play Lucio for no reason other than he wanted to pick a random Hero to never play. Suffice to say its a dumb joke and has become a "meme" in his chat.[/QUOTE] He also loves soldier for no reason other than "nobody plays him" He's always been a bit... hipster-ish/fideistic in his gameplay preferences. I think he does it knowing there are so many people imitating him, he has a certain power over casual meta.

I hope this game gets/has voice commands. I love spamming them in tf2 and it's great for communication too.

[QUOTE=Stiffy360;49102021]I hope this game gets/has voice commands. I love spamming them in tf2 and it's great for communication too.[/QUOTE] There are voice commands/actions iirc

[QUOTE=Noob4life;49101241]Looking at her kit, I think she's suppose to be one of the best target for heals (Mercy / Zen) since majority of her health is armor which soaks up a lot of automatic fire. When comparing with other Tanks who sometimes don't benefit too much from heal: - Reinhardt tanks with his shield - Roadhog can self heal - Wiston uses his bubble shield - Zarya uses shield as well I guess she uses her presence to "taunt" and tank damage? Instead of others who either rely on utility, dps or creating chaos in close quarters. Other than that I suppose she can roam with a pocket.[/QUOTE] Her Defensive Matrix is a perfect counter to Death Lotus, High Noon, Barrage, and Aimbot.

IMO D.Va doesn't really seem like a primary tank. She's tanky, sure, but, but as it's been said there are tankier characters. Seems like her real niche is breaking powerful defense on an objective or choke point. She's maneuverable enough to take nonstandard routes and the self destruct basically forces all enemies out of a wide area for a given time. I can't think of much that facilitates a push quite like that kind of disruption. Now granted it would take a basic degree of coordination to pull that off consistently, and I also haven't played the game yet, but that's what comes to mind when I look at her skill set.

Cree could just bait out the matrix by not firing until he sees her use it; it doesn't seem to last that long, but yeah it's a great ult killer. It also leaves Cree vulnerable to snipers and stuff if he does that now that I think about it.

she seems like a high risk high reward character (where the risk is being completely useless because you missed your shield or ulted too early, and the reward is either completely blocking a game-changing skill or massive area denial/potentially huge multi kills)

I'm not sure about this but I'd think she would be a lot harder to headshot than other characters, since her viewport is on the frontside and a bit lower down, so that's another small plus she has over other tanks.

She looks like she might be a similar deal to the Carnotaurus in Primal Carnage. A tank that isn't particularly good at tanking, but is very effective at making people scatter. Carnotaurus could hit and run the humans to find abandon their position; D.Va can drop nukes in the center of a group to force them out. Both can tank, but not nearly as well as other classes.

I heard one person compare D.va to Reaper in terms of being an ambush/disruption character because of her insane mobility and powerful, but severely short ranged attacks. 4 or so second cooldown on being able to fly anywhere for a short time is bonkers. Her other skill let's her also specialize at breaking defensive lines like Bastion/Torbjorn turrets and also protecting against, as previously mentioned, ballistic ults. Plus her ult basically forces people to evacuate the area. So she kinda looks like a blend of Reaper ambush, Winston harassment and Reinherdt defense.

Mei looks like she absolutely destroys anything that works short-ranged, she's basically a living hard counter against tanks. Only thing she's particularly weak against is anything that hitscans or shoots explosive at her from range

[QUOTE=Exooodus;49103293]I'm not sure about this but I'd think she would be a lot harder to headshot than other characters, since her viewport is on the frontside and a bit lower down, so that's another small plus she has over other tanks.[/QUOTE] I've heard it's the opposite, actually. The viewport is very central so lots of center of mass shots tend to hit it.

[QUOTE=Breastigator;49103476]Mei looks like she absolutely destroys anything that works short-ranged, she's basically a living hard counter against tanks. Only thing she's particularly weak against is anything that hitscans or shoots explosive at her from range[/QUOTE] She's better against the mobile Tracer and Genji who will have trouble approaching and escaping her. And after being frozen she can kill them with a ice spike + melee combo. Her Ice Block prevents her from being gibbed by either of their ultimates. She can only kill a tank if they were already low since Armor is incredibly strong against her. Though she probably wouldn't be a bad pick against Winston to keep him from going rampant. Actual tank busting is better left to Reaper.

is there anyone that streams d.va or lucio

I've been playing a bit of this on rotation with my friend who has a key, and its super fun. Probably the most fun I've had playing a PC game for a long time. My impressions of heroes: Zenyatta: Only played one game as him, just to prove my point to my friend - probably the most overpowered hero in the game. Discord's 100% up time makes him an incredibly potent damage dealer, his natural regen and harmony make him a great support, and his attacks are super easy to use and hurt like hell. His ultimate is a get-out-of-jail free card that's also great for objectives. I haven't played many games against good Zenyatta's, but I got really frustrated when I seemingly had discord on me the entire game. When I played him, I led the team in kills despite joining a game in progress and basically, he's bullshit. Mei: Comfiest waifu. Also pretty overpowered. Ice wall has huge utility as a zoning tool and a movement tool, and self-popsicle is just one of those abilities that lets you engage with almost no fear of death. Ice wall allows you to skirt around a fight and do massive damage by flanking with your freeze gun, and 1v1 close quarters is almost impossible to outright lose as Mei. She has problems finishing off the real tanks but that's what a team is for. Tracer: Super fun, super fast, also super annoying to play against. The only things a good Tracer ever seems to die to is a Junkrat trap or a Bastion. Her lack of vertical mobility sucks when playing as her, but is probably what keeps her balanced. Bastion: Ugh, why is this a hero? He's not particularly good or bad but just his presence makes the game just a bit less fun. If I'm doing well as a hero but that hero isn't equipped to deal with Bastion, I don't want to have to switch just to take him out. Torbjorn: Seems underpowered. I've only seen one really successful Torbjorn and he still lost. Plus, boring to play - turrets die easily if you're not babysitting them, and babysitting is boring. Hanzo: Could just be anecdotal, but probably the weakest in the game. Outclassed by Widowmaker in pretty much every way. Everyone else seems to have a good place from what pubs I've played. Only other gripe is playing someone like McCree or Pharah and having to slowly walk so far after respawning to get back into the action. Maps are nice, some choke points might be too effective on defense but I haven't played enough to really know. Hopefully some more game modes get released.

[QUOTE=discodude;49106906]Hanzo: Could just be anecdotal, but probably the weakest in the game. Outclassed by Widowmaker in pretty much every way.[/QUOTE] Hanzo is similar in utility but completely different in application. I'd use Widowmaker as a defensive sniper and Hanzo as a PTFO pusher.

[QUOTE=Qaus;49106935]Hanzo is similar in utility but completely different in application. I'd use Widowmaker as a defensive sniper and Hanzo as a PTFO pusher.[/QUOTE] Fair point, but I just don't think Hanzo does anything particularly well. He doesn't fight, his arrows are difficult to use, his only good aspect is his ultimate and that is whiffed more often then not. Just use Junkrat if a stationary defense is proving to be hard to beat.

[QUOTE=discodude;49107067]his arrows are difficult to use[/QUOTE] well he [I]IS[/I] a skill character so uhh

[QUOTE=Qaus;49107077]well he [I]IS[/I] a skill character so uhh[/QUOTE] ??? I'm not trying to say that nobody can play well as him. I just haven't seen anyone do it, nor have I been able to, and I don't see the point in trying when I can do the same shit with Widowmaker and more because I don't have to try so hard landing his unreliable projectile, which also happens to be the only thing he can do outside of his ultimate.

it's a very reliable projectile if you know what a parabolic trajectory is, know the travel time, can accurately predict enemy movement, and make sure to charge your shots. all of these are skill based factors. if people aren't playing him effectively they need to take a step back and consider what they're working with.

I am genuinely worried will Overwatch be the death of TF2? Because TF2 was never really the most maintained game basically the community develops it and they get paid very little for their efforts. Essentially paid mods.

[QUOTE=Passing;49107311]I am genuinely worried will Overwatch be the death of TF2? Because TF2 was never really the most maintained game basically the community develops it and they get paid very little for their efforts. Essentially paid mods.[/QUOTE] tf2 is free, overwatch is not tf2 also has an economy that kinda keeps it going