• Overwatch - Scientists baffled by team's ability to fuck up every time
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I never understood why Widowmaker was able to oneshot low health enemies- glad they changed it. Will have to see what McCree is now to see what his changes mean, but overall I'm liking what I'm seeing.
[QUOTE=Lolkork;50519997]This doesn't really fix widowmaker.[/QUOTE] it's a step at least. She can't just blindly tap several of the characters on the foot and get a free kill. There's also no more quickscope weirdness, even if it's a minor change you have to be way more deliberate about whether you want to be sniping or not
[QUOTE=Lolkork;50519997]This doesn't really fix widowmaker.[/QUOTE] Don't look a gift-horse in the mouth, it's certainly a start. Also can't believe I jokingly mentioned they should cut FtH's damage in half and then they did exactly that. :v:
The whole animation ordeal also makes her a lot easier to deal with when trying to ambush her.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50520031]Mccree cant 1 FtH Mei now. Now he also has to punch her miserable little face in.[/QUOTE] People forget that the Flashbang itself does damage. But.. that still leaves it at 295 instead of 270. So it's more he can't combo a Bastion. Mei will still drop with a single FtH.
[QUOTE=Lolkork;50520045]6*45 = 270 Mei has 250 health.[/QUOTE] plus the flashbang does damage to start still a rough ride but this is still 150 damage less per fan, and reload speed is way reduced (does it affect how fast you can start the rolldodge?) meaning their damage potential is a raw 540 instead of 840 with a fan-roll-fan
[quote]Player can only re-enter "sniping mode" after the "exit snipe mode" animation finish[/quote] What does this mean? I tried her out a few minutes ago and didn't notice a difference
[QUOTE=dai;50520069]540 instead of 840[/QUOTE] Tanks rejoice. [QUOTE=NiandraLades;50520098]What does this mean? I tried her out a few minutes ago and didn't notice a difference[/QUOTE] It hasn't dropped yet afaik. You can test this by using 1 shot or 1 shot of FtH on a bot in training.
Oh god that outscope is gonna fuck snipers up
One of those good reasons why Pharah is my most played hero [QUOTE][VID]https://my.mixtape.moe/yodrqv.webm[/VID][/QUOTE] also [t]https://i.imgur.com/0HN61Xh.png[/t]
[quote]Widow is now trash tier. She was fine except for the speedcharge of her shots. Now she's really bad.> GJ pleb community. I'm back to CS:GO I guess. ... She now heavily underpowered, the change to the scope is particularly crippling, that means this gonna seriously reduce her capacity to finish someone she just body shot. Headshots are really hard to track in this game on a lot of targets. Tanks are OK to get between the eyes, but smaller / faster targets like Lucio, Genji etc... are freaking hard to hit. Maybe the top 0,005% of the player will be able to be consistent with it. What's the point into making a char interesting to 50 people on the planet ? She might still be picked in high end teams with A LOT of coordination so her teammates can finish the guy you just put low life. But yeah, she's gonna vanish from the "average joe" competitive games. I don't even know why I believe this game would be interesting competitively in the first place. People are just gonna cry forever on different stuff and Bli² is just gonna suck their playerbase dick instead of telling them "get good". Screw this. It's a stupid decision. Widow already had hard counters like Winston, Genji or an opposing widow (making it a "game within the game" to countersnipe while still helping your friends on the point.) I'm really pissed off at these changes.[/quote] The upset Widowmaker Mains are already rolling in. Someone get me a mug to fill their tears with.
Thank god, I was scared but it seems like McCree got adjusted rather than a hard nerf, I thought he'd be useless after this.
Official English patch notes [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/JepACXN.png[/IMG] Doesn't seem to have actually updated yet tho.
Mei and Reaper can escape a Fan by holding shift now though. They'll pop their wrath/ice block before it ends and, at least in Mei's case, be fine.
[QUOTE=Alrækinn;50520186]Thank god, I was scared but it seems like McCree got adjusted rather than a hard nerf, I thought he'd be useless after this.[/QUOTE] An accurate 'Cree is already quite dangerous with his revolver. It was the "press E for free 445 burst damage" on top of a roll for another 420 that made him absurd. He could effectively remove anything in the game that dared get within a capture-zone size distance. Including tanks. Especially tanks. Now he is effectively incapable of tank-busting like he was prior. He can still do some nasty burst damage, but it'll be risky and especially ineffective with a healer on the field.
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;50519580][video=youtube;6gkDeUuwS9Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gkDeUuwS9Q[/video] Legend of Titan trailer. Awe in its shamelessness :sbhj:[/QUOTE] The vids been taken down due to a copyright claim. Not surprised.
[quote] * Base damage decrease from 15 to 12 (damage multiplier from charging doesn't change)[/quote] Does Widowmaker can still OHK Zenyatta and Tracer on bodyshot?
[QUOTE=coverop;50520325]Does Widowmaker can still OHK Zenyatta and Tracer on bodyshot?[/QUOTE] For those of you bad at math [quote]mccree FH went from no armor, 1x FH: 420 (are you serious blizzard?) -> 270 armor, 1x FH: 390 -> 240 no armor, 2x FH: 840 -> 540 armor, 2x FH: 780 -> 480 widow: base: 150 -> 120 headshot: 300 -> 300 (same) [/quote]
[QUOTE=coverop;50520325]Does Widowmaker can still OHK Zenyatta and Tracer on bodyshot?[/QUOTE] No, a full (unbuffed) bodyshot now does 120 damage, a full headshot however still does 300 since the multiplier is now higher to compensate for the reduced regular damage. You'll still be one shot as Zeny or Tracer on a bodyshot if a Mercy is buffing Widow, or if another Zenyatta marked you with Discord.
:snip: not thinking straight because cold
[QUOTE=Banned?;50520334]For those of you bad at math[/QUOTE] 540 is still an insane amount of damage
[QUOTE=Dr. Kyuros;50520350]Oh boy the new patch, wonder what nerfs Widowmaker go- that oversight, also: why [sp]know it's supposed to get widow players to actually aim for the head but still fuck[/sp][/QUOTE] There's no oversight? They reduced base damage and increased headshot multiplier, that way bodyshots are less rewarding while headshots retain the same damage, it's still not perfect since her rifle recharge rate is unchanged, her health is still 200 and she still has that annoying jump hitbox problem, but it's a first step.
[QUOTE=Novangel;50520366]540 is still an insane amount of damage[/QUOTE] I agree. Every tank but Roadhog is still in danger of a 100-0 combo, although Zarya and Winston are fine if they get shields up in time (unlike previously).
With that Widow nerf, I feel like I'm an even more free flying Pharah. I'm game.
And the video is down (Legend of Titans) [img]http://u.cubeupload.com/Coverop/chrome20160614183458.png[/img]
I got 4 kills with Winston's ult, including 3 enviromental on Nepal Didn't get POTG
[QUOTE=Bragdras;50520368]There's no oversight? They reduced base damage and increased headshot multiplier, that way bodyshots are less rewarding while headshots retain the same damage, it's still not perfect since her rifle recharge rate is unchanged, her health is still 200 and she still has that annoying jump hitbox problem, but it's a first step.[/QUOTE] Instantly forgot about the base damage decrease from 15 to 12 while I was making that post, whoops.
Finally the nerfs are decided. I feel it's good for Widow, not much of a change for the skilled ones who still mainly headshot. The duels are a bit more bland, though [editline]14th June 2016[/editline] Does anyone happen to know when the patch will roll out on EU?
downloading an update on NA
boy I do Not Like Mei
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