Overwatch - Scientists baffled by team's ability to fuck up every time
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[QUOTE=shadowboy303;50459404]So, got an issue.
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I never really get the chance to play as anything other than the top 5 here, they are allways "needed" because the majority of the team will always use a god dammed sniper hero or are AFK in the middle of a match :/.[/QUOTE]
You can branch out a bit and try out new heroes, like Lucio, S76, Reaper or Junkrat. Just because your team needs a damage dealer/tank/healer, doesn't mean you should always stick to these core heroes everytime.
Interested in playing Overwatch. Played TF2 for a while some years ago. Anyone have a good video on how to be introduced to Overwatch in the frame of how certain aspects of it are close to TF2 so I can grasp it easier?
[QUOTE=Clovernoodle;50459453]Interested in playing Overwatch. Played TF2 for a while some years ago. Anyone have a good video on how to be introduced to Overwatch in the frame of how certain aspects of it are close to TF2 so I can grasp it easier?[/QUOTE]
If you try to play it like TF2 you're going to have a bad time.
[QUOTE=Clovernoodle;50459453]Interested in playing Overwatch. Played TF2 for a while some years ago. Anyone have a good video on how to be introduced to Overwatch in the frame of how certain aspects of it are close to TF2 so I can grasp it easier?[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;3X8xPtYAkTc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X8xPtYAkTc[/video]
I quite like this guide. Explains pretty much every aspect of it you'd want to know, although there have been some balance patches since then. Even though it shares a lot of aspects with TF2, it's very different, and you'll have to get used to it. It's also different in the way there's no overly long respawns, fall damage and so on.
There also cosmetics (skins, sprays, sounds, taunts and highlight intros) you unlock every time you level up, which takes 1000 - 22000 experience to do, where you can expect around 2500 from a full active match, with some added bonus for a few things like first win of the day or playing with friends. The order in which you unlock them is completely random, and some things are more rare than others. Unlike in TF2, there's no weekly limit on how much you can get.
There's also a prestige system where in when you hit level 100, you can start over at level 1 and get a fancy star under your level, which changes the more you prestige. Your xp requirments also go back to <22000 for the first bunch of levels.
None of the unlocks you get change the game whatsoever. You have all the same tools as everyone else the second you start.
I can't even win a match today outside of Super Shimada Brawl :cry:
I have so much trouble telling when I'm being hit and from where in this game. I wish there was a way to make it more noticeable.
A lot of time I thought I got one shot, but in the kill cam I'm getting riddled without noticing at all. The few times I do notice I'm spinning around trying to see what is damaging me.
Well the AU servers are fucked right now, im getting like 200-300 ping, they even have the notice on battle.net right now
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it's been like this all day, please.
:snip: [sp]not helpful[/sp].
Jeeze, I'll talk shit about D.VA needing work because she doesn't fit as a tank... or has good weapons or the like, but Winston?
I can't feel threatened by him. His gun is pathetic and even when he rages I don't go "Oh shit", unlike say a charging Reinhardt or when Zarya puts up her shield. I feel like I can take on Winston as [I]anyone[/I]
[QUOTE=Zeos;50459580]Jeeze, I'll talk shit about D.VA needing work because she doesn't fit as a tank... or has good weapons or the like, but Winston?
I can't feel threatened by him. His gun is pathetic and even when he rages I don't go "Oh shit", unlike say a charging Reinhardt or when Zarya puts up her shield. I feel like I can take on Winston as [I]anyone[/I][/QUOTE]
Winston is a situational pick, at least for me. D.va and Reinhardt can possibly go all game without being switched out, same with Roadhog, what they bring to the team is something that seldom needs to be changed or is better done by someone else. Winston exists to get in peoples faces and tie them up, he's not meant to get kills. He jumps in faces and people have to react to it, not because he's doing huge damage to someone, but because he's doing little to everything. You have to react to him, typically it takes more than one person to get rid of him quickly and while that's happening the rest of his team are closing the gap.
Winston isn't really meant to be threatening on his own, he's meant to disrupt low-health enemies and cause a sense of panic while the rest of your team capitalizes on this and tosses out a good ultimate or something. The electricity itself is low damage but it stacks up quickly if you keep jumping around and harassing the other team.
[QUOTE=Zeos;50459580]Jeeze, I'll talk shit about D.VA needing work because she doesn't fit as a tank... or has good weapons or the like, but Winston?
I can't feel threatened by him. His gun is pathetic and even when he rages I don't go "Oh shit", unlike say a charging Reinhardt or when Zarya puts up her shield. I feel like I can take on Winston as [I]anyone[/I][/QUOTE]
I find that he's pretty good in pursuing high-mobility enemies IE Pharah, and he can be effective in whittling down everyone else if he stays mobile. But yeah, if Winston is by himself where people can focus fire on him he's pretty bad.
The shield is too flimsy-there are times where it stays up for not even a second. This is pretty bad as besides flying away this is his only recourse for breathing room since his weapon isn't long range.
[QUOTE=Zeos;50459580]Jeeze, I'll talk shit about D.VA needing work because she doesn't fit as a tank... or has good weapons or the like, but Winston?
I can't feel threatened by him. His gun is pathetic and even when he rages I don't go "Oh shit", unlike say a charging Reinhardt or when Zarya puts up her shield. I feel like I can take on Winston as [I]anyone[/I][/QUOTE]
That attitude is what gets you killed against a Winston. Dude can appear from anywhere, prevent McCrees from throwing their cherry bombs and tickle a cluster of enemies for ~55 damage per second. The tick-rate on his gun is really fast, so it's easy to consistently hit people with it. It racks up damage faster than you'd expect, and is excellent for dealing with weakened enemies and cowering Reinhardts.
Dude can also chase healers and Widowmakers like no one else, and it's very hard to get him off you. Plus, he's adept at getting the entire enemy team to take their focus off of your team mates for a solid duration, making for some really good pushes.
also his ultimate lets you boof people off of edges and objectives. It's not good for killing directly, but it's more or less a constant stream of Lucio soundwaves.
I really wish Symmetra was listed as defense, or team tips would state "No healer" when Symmetra is the only support. People still don't understand that she can't heal people.
Winston's key feature is chasing down healer supports and likely getting them killed before dying himself.
That said, it isn't a particularly great feature. He's decent at fighting bad Tracers and Genjis too, as he's highly mobile and his weapon is a conical zappy chunk a' fuckyou.
He's less of a tank, and more of a really good distraction/annoyance played right. I've gotten Mercys who were regularly pressing their undo button to swap to Lucio or even something else after going bananas on them a few times.
[QUOTE=Doom14;50459631]Winston's key feature is chasing down healer supports and likely getting them killed before dying himself.
That said, it isn't a particularly great feature. He's decent at fighting bad Tracers and Genjis too, as he's highly mobile and his weapon is a conical zappy chunk a' fuckyou.[/QUOTE]
His ability to deal with squishy characters "before dying himself" got a lot better after they gave his leap a heavy cooldown reduction. You can jump in, bully a Mercy hiding in the back, then jump out again. Bonus points if you land on someone, which deals a solid 50 damage.
That being said, he absolutely gets shut down by Torbjorn and Bastions. He's no God by any means, but he's one of the characters I find increasingly more useful and fun to play.
He's more of a disruptor, than a tank. He's just all about causing panic on the enemy team and picking off hard-to-reach targets, like Widowmaker and Mercy. Neither of them would have any counters without Winston.
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[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;50459519]Well the AU servers are fucked right now, im getting like 200-300 ping, they even have the notice on battle.net right now
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it's been like this all day, please.[/QUOTE]
It was happening at 5-6pm and then they fixed it ([URL="https://twitter.com/BlizzardCS/with_replies"]last two tweets here[/URL]), I suppose something must have gone wrong again. I can't play right now to verify so I can't say it's happening to me though, but I definitely was playing after they fixed it for a few hours.
[QUOTE=Zeos;50459580]Jeeze, I'll talk shit about D.VA needing work because she doesn't fit as a tank... or has good weapons or the like, but Winston?
I can't feel threatened by him. His gun is pathetic and even when he rages I don't go "Oh shit", unlike say a charging Reinhardt or when Zarya puts up her shield. I feel like I can take on Winston as [I]anyone[/I][/QUOTE]
He fucks up Genji pretty hard- Doesn't matter how much of a ninja you are when the tickle gun locks onto you.
[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;50459519]Well the AU servers are fucked right now, im getting like 200-300 ping, they even have the notice on battle.net right now
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it's been like this all day, please.[/QUOTE]
That was fixed hours ago, I've had no issue since.
Unless it's only parts of AU? Somehow.
[QUOTE=cyclocius;50459597]Winston is a situational pick, at least for me. D.va and Reinhardt can possibly go all game without being switched out, same with Roadhog, what they bring to the team is something that seldom needs to be changed or is better done by someone else. Winston exists to get in peoples faces and tie them up, he's not meant to get kills. He jumps in faces and people have to react to it, not because he's doing huge damage to someone, but because he's doing little to everything. You have to react to him, typically it takes more than one person to get rid of him quickly and while that's happening the rest of his team are closing the gap.[/QUOTE]
He's just good at being a big pain in the ass, like jumping over the entire teams defense chokepoint and forcing them to come deal with you which lets your team come and cap the point
Had flashbacks where my PoTG as Toblerone wasn't involving the turret, but actual skillful longrange headshots with me gun
I wish I saved it, I was so proud of it
Top 3 the most annoying classes in Overwatch:
1. McCree
2. Mei
3. Zarya
[QUOTE=coverop;50459818]Top 3 the most annoying classes in Overwatch:
1. McCree
2. Mei
3. Zarya[/QUOTE]
McCree is one of the easiest characters to deal with if you don't suck at aiming
[QUOTE=coverop;50459818]Top 3 the most annoying classes in Overwatch:
1. McCree
2. Mei
3. Zarya[/QUOTE]
I'd put Roadhog in place of Zarya personally. Getting hooked and blasted before you even know what's going on is no fun. Add in the fact that he's really tough to kill if you're by yourself since he has the most HP and can quickly heal himself.
[QUOTE=Lolkork;50459831]He is op, he straight up counters like 2 3rds of all the classes in the game.[/QUOTE]
And literally any character in the game can counter him. It's a balancing act
[QUOTE=Lolkork;50459831]He is op, he straight up counters like 2 3rds of all the classes in the game.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget, he also interrupts ults and abilities. And Reinhart can't even shield himself because all you have to do is throw it up at a 45.
[QUOTE=joshuadim;50459826]McCree is one of the easiest characters to deal with if you don't suck at aiming[/QUOTE]
Correctly executed Combo can execute anyone in this game.
He can do 900 dmg within 3 seconds.
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