Mass Effect Megathread: He said "I should go." Do I sound like that? - Games

It takes a lot of fuckery to screw up so badly that a long time fan of the series loses interest in it just because of how the third game wrapped things up. When I look at the Omega DLC I worry about the future of the franchise since the dev that made it is picking up the next ME game. The only thing that rekindled my interest in the game was the Citadel DLC, and even that was the cheapest kind of satisfaction. They took the only thing they didn't fuck up, the characters, and just made everything else a joke intentionally instead of accidentally. Even then they almost fucked up the characters for cheap drama. I remember listening to Liara getting angry about the Reapers making Asari husks my first playthrough and thinking to myself "so the human husks we've been fighting since the first game didn't cross the line, but Banshees do?". I'll stop before this gets out of hand though. It was just such a disappointingly sloppy ending to a great Sci-Fi trilogy.

Honestly, the character writing was pretty crap across the board in ME3. Even the main squad was really poor. The majority of it was auto dialogue one-liners with one or two actual conversations. Tali casually abandons her fleet as admiral to join the Normandy for fun. Liara loses her shit over Thessia but barely thinks twice about every other homeworld getting glassed. James isn't as terrible as people make him out to be but he's still barely adds anything to the game. The VS has the bulk of their dialogue in the hospital and loses most interactivity once they actually get on the ship. I feel like Garrus is the only character who had improved through ME3, and Javik was the only worthy new addition. That's not to include the fact that [i]every[/i] character from ME2 (not named mordin) got screwed. Worthless cameo and/or less than 10 minutes of screen time (usually both). Let's also not forget the most ridiculed villain in recent memory, Kai Leng. Bioware has lost their touch with character writing, and they seem oblivious to why people even like their characters. The next Mass Effect game is pretty screwed. The characters will never live up to the old favorites even if they're well written. Chances are not likely they will be anyway.

[URL="http://www.complex.com/video-games/2013/10/new-york-comic-con-interview-mac-walter-mass-effect-walter-white-moment"]http://www.complex.com/video-games/2013/10/new-york-comic-con-interview-mac-walter-mass-effect-walter-white-moment[/URL] ME4 will not feature Shepard or any squadmates at all.

[QUOTE=Dumb Dog;42531452]Honestly, the character writing was pretty crap across the board in ME3. Even the main squad was really poor. The majority of it was auto dialogue one-liners with one or two actual conversations. Tali casually abandons her fleet as admiral to join the Normandy for fun. Liara loses her shit over Thessia but barely thinks twice about every other homeworld getting glassed. James isn't as terrible as people make him out to be but he's still barely adds anything to the game. The VS has the bulk of their dialogue in the hospital and loses most interactivity once they actually get on the ship. I feel like Garrus is the only character who had improved through ME3, and Javik was the only worthy new addition. That's not to include the fact that [i]every[/i] character from ME2 (not named mordin) got screwed. Worthless cameo and/or less than 10 minutes of screen time (usually both). Let's also not forget the most ridiculed villain in recent memory, Kai Leng. Bioware has lost their touch with character writing, and they seem oblivious to why people even like their characters. The next Mass Effect game is pretty screwed. The characters will never live up to the old favorites even if they're well written. Chances are not likely they will be anyway.[/QUOTE] I could probably go for hours on why Kai Leng is the worst thing ever and everyone involved should be fired, and not just for the game's writing, but everything gameplay related thing about him.

[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;42534468][URL="http://www.complex.com/video-games/2013/10/new-york-comic-con-interview-mac-walter-mass-effect-walter-white-moment"]http://www.complex.com/video-games/2013/10/new-york-comic-con-interview-mac-walter-mass-effect-walter-white-moment[/URL] ME4 will not feature Shepard or any squadmates at all.[/QUOTE] I feel less sad about no Shepard than I feel about nobody else from the Normandy. He did say "Shepard-specific" companions, so that does leave wiggle room for people who were somebody before they joined the squad, like Wrex, or maybe Liara since [sp]she's literally the only person in the series who can't die at some point or other[/sp].

The only problem with that is she would probably still remember Shepard and could very well have romanced them. And technically [sp]couldn't she have died if there weren't enough war assets and she ran in with Shep? Also, if Shepard rejected the Star Child, wouldn't Liara be part of the bodycount?[/sp]

[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;42537458]The only problem with that is she would probably still remember Shepard and could very well have romanced them. And technically [sp]couldn't she have died if there weren't enough war assets and she ran in with Shep? Also, if Shepard rejected the Star Child, wouldn't Liara be part of the bodycount?[/sp][/QUOTE] Yes but [sp]we have no idea what's canon in terms of the ending, or even if this cycle lost after the Crucible failed. That black box could easily have been one Liara planted and then never went back for, assuming they want to go with a happy/less shitty ending in which the Crucible wasn't used and the Reapers either were pushed back or evaded by a small cell of survivors[/sp]. I guess we'll have to wait and see. A lot about the next game depends on how they wanted to handle the ending if Walters' comment about moving forward is true.

Hopefully Walters and his team can coherently put a plot together. At least they have time on their side.

I can't wait to see how our choice at the end of ME3 gets reduced into an arbitrary amount of "GOOD ENDING POINTS" in ME4.

Like I said in the other thread it'll be a cosmetic costume or a mid tier weapon at best. BW/EA isn't brave enough to do anything else, and EA sure isn't gonna shell out the resources necessary for a three tiered story arc.

By saying that they're not even going to reference Shepard, they're going one of three ways: 1. Setting it so far in the future, he/she's simply remembered as the hero who saved the galaxy long ago. 2. Retconning the ending (Which wouldn't be a bad thing) 3. Prequel before he was in the Alliance. [editline]15th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeos;42534590]I could probably go for hours on why Kai Leng is the worst thing ever and everyone involved should be fired, and not just for the game's writing, but everything gameplay related thing about him.[/QUOTE] He only pops up when the plot needs to be thickened and characters need to die. His character is terribly inconsistent. It's cool that they picked him to be the "villain" in ME3 but his execution is so terrible, he comes off as a whiny brat who just seems like nothing more than an inconvenience.

Kai Leng just stuck me as such an Adam Jensen expy seriously.

At least Adam Jensen had screen presence...

At least Adam Jensen was kewl

At lest Adam Jensen was competently written and not generic anime tryhard mccool guy.

So ive beaten ME1 and ME2. I have ME3 but I only played the intro then I got a new PC and never reinstalled and played it. I know there was all the drama about how ME3 ended and what not, but is it worth me installing to play through? I was never really one to bandwagon ive just not gotten around to it.

The combat is much more refined and varied, you have less squadmates and one of them is a literal sex robot and they added tali literally as an afterthought (she was actually supposed to be a bunch of emails), the dialog is ridiculously simplified but more cleanly and tightly written, the game is much shorter and everything after rannoch is terribly bad. And everything is a fetch quest.

[QUOTE=27X;42545194]they added tali literally as an afterthought (she was actually supposed to be a bunch of emails).[/QUOTE] Wait, where was this stated?

[QUOTE=Blooper Reel;42545326]Wait, where was this stated?[/QUOTE] I remember that being said by some bioware employee, can't remember where though. Wait here it is, dunno if there is a more detailed explanation of it. [url]https://twitter.com/TheEvilChris/status/315526349076955136[/url]

[QUOTE=Blooper Reel;42545326]Wait, where was this stated?[/QUOTE] It was stated by the guy who wrote her, Patrick Weekes , in several places.

[QUOTE=27X;42545194]The combat is much more refined and varied, you have less squadmates and one of them is a literal sex robot and they added tali literally as an afterthought (she was actually supposed to be a bunch of emails), the dialog is ridiculously simplified but more cleanly and tightly written, the game is much shorter and everything after rannoch is terribly bad.[/QUOTE] Don't forget that aside from the story missions and a handful of missions which tie into those all the side quests are incredibly dull fetch quests where you don't even get to talk to the quest giver, let alone actually have any gameplay.

[QUOTE=HoliestCow;42544077]So ive beaten ME1 and ME2. I have ME3 but I only played the intro then I got a new PC and never reinstalled and played it. I know there was all the drama about how ME3 ended and what not, but is it worth me installing to play through? I was never really one to bandwagon ive just not gotten around to it.[/QUOTE] Definitely play it, if only to wrap up the story. It ends kinda poorly no matter what, but download the Extended Cut (which is free) and it takes some of the sting out of some of the choices. The gameplay is the most fun in the series I thought, the powers are really fun to use and the shooting has improved drastically. If you get any DLC, get From Ashes and Citadel. They're both awesome.

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The concept is cool and all but who is honestly going to wear something like that in public. To me even the N7 armor stripe hoodie is pushing it.

They didn't even get the correct blue for the Garrus hoodie. [I]Why.[/I]

[QUOTE=dogmachines;42665782]To me even the N7 armor stripe hoodie is pushing it.[/QUOTE] I don't get this at all. If you like it, wear it. Who gives a fuck.

Yeah those do look ridiculously garish and clownesque.

Anyone else find the Omega DLC extremely boring? I bought all the DLC, started Omega and got half way through before losing the will to play any further. Haven't touched ME3 since.

3's dlc is either deliberately cut content money grab, fancervix, or fancervix moneygrab. The rather bizarre exception to this is the MP DLC, which is actually what the fuck DLC is supposed to be.

[QUOTE=27X;42684023]3's dlc is either deliberately cut content money grab, fancervix, or fancervix moneygrab. The rather bizarre exception to this is the MP DLC, which is actually what the fuck DLC is supposed to be.[/QUOTE] I ended up watching some of the Citadel DLC on youtube. It just looked so bad, to me it looked as if it was just made to get money from Betas who have never seen real human interactions.